Re: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-09 Thread Robert Munn
The Dow is off 40% from a year ago. On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Erika wrote: > 8,684.80 > > Closed now at least. > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial h

RE: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-09 Thread Jacob
I think there has to be a 10% drop.. if I remember right -Original Message- From: Erika L. Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 1:01 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Dow down over 500 points ... 8,684.80 Closed now at least. What happened to the emergency

RE: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-09 Thread Jacob
18% drop in 5 days... -Original Message- From: Erika L. Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 12:25 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Dow down over 500 points ... 8,912.43 ~| Adobe®

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2008-10-09 Thread Won Lee
4:12 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Dow down over 500 points ... I guess that's them ... After 9/11- those limits were a lot less though I remember the bells signaling the shut downs. On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Won Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Collars? >

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2008-10-09 Thread Tony
nice, i just upped my contribution to 7% -- tony Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. -- siddhartha gautama On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 4:29 PM, Ian Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: "Won Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thursday, October 09, 2008 12:34:17 PM >>> > Ugh.

Re: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-09 Thread Erika L. Walker
I guess that's them ... After 9/11- those limits were a lot less though ... I remember the bells signaling the shut downs. On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Won Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Collars? > > http://www.nyse.com/press/circuit_breakers.html > > - > ~~

RE: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-09 Thread Ian Skinner
>>> "Won Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thursday, October 09, 2008 12:34:17 PM >>> Ugh. This is not good. Well it might be good but it isn't something I wanted to endure - even though I'm on the sidelines. Luckily for me, my personal plans don't involve investing in 401k, Retirement IRA, and various o

RE: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-09 Thread Won Lee
Collars? http://www.nyse.com/press/circuit_breakers.html -Original Message- From: Erika L. Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 4:01 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Dow down over 500 points ... 8,684.80 Closed now at least. What happened to the emergency

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2008-10-09 Thread Erika L. Walker
8,684.80 Closed now at least. What happened to the emergency stops they used to have? How come we don't close the markets like some other countries have done? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramati

RE: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-09 Thread Won Lee
just an options and stock kind of guy. -Original Message- From: Erika L. Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 3:25 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Dow down over 500 points ... 8,912.43 ~| A

Re: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-09 Thread Erika L. Walker
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2008-10-08 Thread Gruss Gott
> Jake wrote: > Interest rate cuts generally help the market. > Not in this case because nobody wants to lend money. Banks are hording money because a.) they don't trust anyone and, b.) they're hoarding cash because they don't know which of their outstanding loans will default causing them need c

Re: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-08 Thread Robert Munn
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Jacob wrote: > > Anybody care to guess where the market bottom will be??? I am thinking > around 8000... > I'm hearing 7000-7500 from a few different people, all by the end of the year. ~| Adobe

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2008-10-08 Thread Jacob
... -Original Message- From: Erika L. Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2008 1:49 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Dow down over 500 points ... Little off there ... 9,258.10 Phew, what a week. On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: &

Re: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-08 Thread Erika L. Walker
Little off there ... 9,258.10 Phew, what a week. On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 9:18 AM, Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Today.. hmmm.. hard one. I say around 9400. > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and d

RE: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-08 Thread Jacob
Today.. hmmm.. hard one. I say around 9400. -Original Message- From: Erika L. Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 2:29 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Dow down over 500 points ... Yes, yes you were! :P Get it right next time. Where's it gonna

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2008-10-07 Thread Robert Munn
Funny how that works. On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 2:35 PM, Vivec wrote: > Read that if you have the staying power to last through 5 years, > you'll be a millionairre several times over by buying stocks that are > low now. > > But...the catch is that anyone who can tie up their money for 5 years > in

Re: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-07 Thread Erika L. Walker
hence - lesson learned ... ? On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Read that if you have the staying power to last through 5 years, > you'll be a millionaire several times over by buying stocks that are > low now. > > But...the catch is that anyone who can tie up thei

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2008-10-07 Thread Vivec
Read that if you have the staying power to last through 5 years, you'll be a millionairre several times over by buying stocks that are low now. But...the catch is that anyone who can tie up their money for 5 years in stocks now...already IS a millionairre!! ~~~

Re: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-07 Thread Robert Munn
Wait three months, those prices will seem ridiculous. On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Erika wrote: > By the way - FORD stock is now at the bargain basement price of $2.92 if > anyone is interested and GOOG is at $346. > > Bargains abound ... ~

Re: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-07 Thread Erika L. Walker
Yes, yes you were! :P Get it right next time. Where's it gonna close tomorrow? By the way - FORD stock is now at the bargain basement price of $2.92 if anyone is interested and GOOG is at $346. Bargains abound ... On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well.. I was

RE: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-07 Thread Jacob
Well.. I was 24 hours off. Below 9500 today :) -Original Message- From: Erika L. Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 1:56 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Dow down over 500 points ... Well, not quite 9600 ... corrected itself substantially to close at

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2008-10-07 Thread Erika L. Walker
Looking more urban now... On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 8:39 AM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Look at Yadkin, Skibo or Bragg Blvd. > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get t

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2008-10-07 Thread Loathe
Look at Yadkin, Skibo or Bragg Blvd. Erika L. Walker wrote: > Ahhh. You wouldn't see that from some of the Street View pics. Everything > looks nice and quiet. Of course I'm looking in residential outskirts... so > maybe it looks quieter there. > > > On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 8:35 AM, Loathe <[EMAI

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2008-10-07 Thread Erika L. Walker
Ahhh. You wouldn't see that from some of the Street View pics. Everything looks nice and quiet. Of course I'm looking in residential outskirts... so maybe it looks quieter there. On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 8:35 AM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Crime rate mainly. > > Fayetteville is a pretty n

Re: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-07 Thread Loathe
Crime rate mainly. Fayetteville is a pretty nasty little town. It's an Army town, lots of tattoo parlors, strip clubs and used car dealers :) Outside town is really nice though. Erika L. Walker wrote: > Is there a reason why so many houses in the area are less than the price of > a used car ..

Re: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-07 Thread Erika L. Walker
Is there a reason why so many houses in the area are less than the price of a used car and a used Toyota Camry at that ... I looked at the street views and they actually look like not bad areas. Yards are clean, vehicles parked outside are fairly new. Evidence of chairs on front porches so man

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2008-10-07 Thread Erika L. Walker
Damn. NC is like 20 minutes away from me. You, however, are 6 HOURS away from there! Gotta love geography. On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 8:07 AM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > FayetteKILL > :) > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 softwar

Re: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-07 Thread Loathe
FayetteKILL :) Erika L. Walker wrote: > Where are you again in NC? I wonder just how far away you are from me now > > > On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 10:37 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> We're looking at property in the 30,000 - 60,000 market down here to buy >> to rent out and it's in

Re: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-07 Thread Erika L. Walker
Where are you again in NC? I wonder just how far away you are from me now On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 10:37 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We're looking at property in the 30,000 - 60,000 market down here to buy > to rent out and it's incredible how much that actually buys right now. > >

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2008-10-07 Thread Erika L. Walker
Ohhh go for that house overlooking the bay :) But only if it's a bargain. :) On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 10:33 PM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'll be coming into some money near the end of the year. I have to > re-invest or pay Cap Gains tax. I'm leaning toward Real Estate. I'm > he

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2008-10-06 Thread Gruss Gott
> Mo wrote: > Most of my losses have been on automotive stock, although I've had a > few tech dogs. Cisco is worth about half what I paid for it, Alcatel > and Lucent both are nearly worthless. > > My most recent purchases have been S&P based CD's with Wells Fargo. > HA! We have some things in c

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2008-10-06 Thread Loathe
The other option right now is to buy something for summers in western NC in the mountains. Maureen wrote: > It wouldn't buy much out here but I bet you can find some deals in NC. > I wouldn't mind a summer place on the Outer Banks. I've given > thought to moving there but the BF can't leave his

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2008-10-06 Thread Maureen
It wouldn't buy much out here but I bet you can find some deals in NC. I wouldn't mind a summer place on the Outer Banks. I've given thought to moving there but the BF can't leave his mum. On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 7:37 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We're looking at property in the 30,000

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2008-10-06 Thread Loathe
ee the price on Apple? >> >> Smart people still have money. >> >> >> Jacob wrote: >>> Yea.. what happened there? >>> >>> Who were the investors that decided to buy at the end?...LOL >>> >>> -Original Message- >&

Re: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-06 Thread Maureen
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 7:28 PM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Eri-k-a wrote: >> Dow might close below 10k for the first time since 2004 ... >> > > Hey, how come Republicans build roller coasters that only go down? The DOW was over 14,000 last summer. I think that coaster went too far u

Re: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-06 Thread Maureen
a L. Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 1:56 PM >> To: cf-community >> Subject: Re: Dow down over 500 points ... >> >> Well, not quite 9600 ... corrected itself substantially to close at 9,955.50 >> >> >> >> >> >

Re: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-06 Thread Gruss Gott
> Eri-k-a wrote: > Dow might close below 10k for the first time since 2004 ... > Hey, how come Republicans build roller coasters that only go down? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to

Re: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-06 Thread Loathe
y, October 06, 2008 1:56 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Dow down over 500 points ... > > Well, not quite 9600 ... corrected itself substantially to close at 9,955.50 > > > > > ~| Adobe® Co

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2008-10-06 Thread Gruss Gott
> jj wrote: > Hey, the Sirius stock I am holding is really cheap now. > I really wanted to buy Sirius about 3 years ago, but my wife wouldn't let me. I think it was at $30 or thereabouts and I was certain that sat radio was going to become the next cable tv. I still am, although I'm not quite as

Re: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-06 Thread Charlie Griefer
now there's a stock i can afford to buy shares in whole increments :) On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 4:56 PM, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey, the Sirius stock I am holding is really cheap now. > > My plan is _almost_ the same as Buffet's. Buy and hold forever. > > Unfortunately, it was Ji

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2008-10-06 Thread Jerry Johnson
Hey, the Sirius stock I am holding is really cheap now. My plan is _almost_ the same as Buffet's. Buy and hold forever. Unfortunately, it was Jimmy Buffet I was listening to. Through some sort of fog. On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 7:50 PM, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > i was considering

Re: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-06 Thread Charlie Griefer
at decided to buy at the end?...LOL > > -Original Message- > From: Erika L. Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 1:56 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Dow down over 500 points ... > > Well, not quite 9600 ... corrected

RE: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-06 Thread Jacob
Yea.. what happened there? Who were the investors that decided to buy at the end?...LOL -Original Message- From: Erika L. Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 1:56 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Dow down over 500 points ... Well, not quite 9600

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2008-10-06 Thread Erika L. Walker
Well, not quite 9600 ... corrected itself substantially to close at 9,955.50 ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;294400

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2008-10-06 Thread Jacob
: Billy Cox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 12:47 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: Dow down over 500 points ... With a Roth IRA, you have already paid income taxes on the money, so the restrictions don't have to be so draconian. -Original Message- From: G Money [m

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2008-10-06 Thread Billy Cox
With a Roth IRA, you have already paid income taxes on the money, so the restrictions don't have to be so draconian. -Original Message- From: G Money [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 2:04 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Dow down over 500 points ... r

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2008-10-06 Thread Cameron Childress
Yup. Check out 7 and 8 on this FAQ: http://www.jenseninvestment.com/Mutual_Fund/MF_irarollovers.cfm The other interesting thing is that a "first time home buyer" is generally someone who hasn't owned a home in the previous 2 years. So it might not be your first home, just the first one in 2 yea

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2008-10-06 Thread G Money
really??!?! I did not know thati thought there were only very limited pretexts under which you could withdrawal early from an IRA without incurring the penaltiesbut i thought they all dealt with extreme life changes (death of primary earner, etc.) Interesting. On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 1:51

Re: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-06 Thread Cameron Childress
60 days actually - my bad On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:51 PM, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:27 PM, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I assume that's a Roth you are talking about? > > > No, actually a traditional. You can take up to 10K out for a new

Re: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-06 Thread Cameron Childress
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 2:27 PM, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I assume that's a Roth you are talking about? No, actually a traditional. You can take up to 10K out for a new home purchase and you avoid penalties (but you still pay tax on it). You have 120 days to put it back if the n

RE: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-06 Thread Jacob
It his 9598 at 2:30pm ;) On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I predict is it will close around 9600. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get t

Re: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-06 Thread G Money
I assume that's a Roth you are talking about? On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > Wow - I am super happy I took money out of my IRA to buy a house and didn't > end up buying it. Hopefully I can put it back into the IRA while the > market's in a shit

Re: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-06 Thread Erika L. Walker
It's getting close ... On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I predict is it will close around 9600. > > > ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get

Re: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-06 Thread Cameron Childress
Wow - I am super happy I took money out of my IRA to buy a house and didn't end up buying it. Hopefully I can put it back into the IRA while the market's in a shitter. -Cameron On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I predict is it will close around 9600.

RE: Dow down over 500 points ...

2008-10-06 Thread Jacob
I predict is it will close around 9600. -Original Message- From: Erika L. Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 7:58 AM To: cf-community Subject: Dow down over 500 points ... Dow might close below 10k for the first time since 2004 ... ~~~