Re: Exxon taxes

2011-04-29 Thread Sam
And waiting... Better call the wife . On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Sam wrote: > Still waiting... > > . > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=hou

Re: Exxon taxes

2011-04-29 Thread Sam
Still waiting... . On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Sam wrote: > Hello? > Are you going to defend yourself or just point to your little bitches > approval :P > > > On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Sam wrote: >> Let's try again >> >> You say $30b >> >> 80% of Exxon's earnings are from out side

Re: Exxon taxes

2011-04-29 Thread Sam
Hello? Are you going to defend yourself or just point to your little bitches approval :P On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Sam wrote: > Let's try again > > You say $30b > > 80% of Exxon's earnings are from out side the US and they pay a hefty > income tax for it. > > 20% is earned in the US. > >

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2011-04-29 Thread Gruss Gott
Judah McAuley wrote: > > The irony of you making this argument about factual numbers makes me > twitch, Gruss. > > Good job though. > Thanks man. I'm being very sincere when I say that means a lot coming from you. ~| Order the

Re: Exxon taxes

2011-04-29 Thread Sam
But he was wrong again. Scratches head. I guess Monday he'll go on about how he schooled me in math again. . On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 2:42 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 6:45 AM, Gruss Gott wrote: >> >> Sam wrote: >>> >>> dude! >>> 26.6% != 5% >>> >>> >> >> 4/3 != 5% ei

Re: Exxon taxes

2011-04-29 Thread Judah McAuley
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 6:45 AM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > Sam wrote: >> >> dude! >> 26.6% != 5% >> >> > > 4/3 != 5% either! > > Making up meaningless numbers is fun! The irony of you making this argument about factual numbers makes me twitch, Gruss. Good job though. Judah ~~

RE: Exxon taxes

2011-04-29 Thread Eric Roberts
I think he likes the abuse... -Original Message- From: Gruss Gott [mailto:grussg...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 07:53 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Exxon taxes Sam wrote: > > Smoking dope is fun eh? > > Let's rethink that. > No need to. I took

Re: Exxon taxes

2011-04-29 Thread Sam
Let's try again You say $30b 80% of Exxon's earnings are from out side the US and they pay a hefty income tax for it. 20% is earned in the US. So 20% (earned in US) of 30b(earned world wide) = 6b 1.6b / 6b * 100 = 26.6% Got it? . On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > Sam

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2011-04-29 Thread Gruss Gott
Sam wrote: > > dude! > 26.6% != 5% > > 4/3 != 5% either! Making up meaningless numbers is fun! ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Arch

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2011-04-29 Thread Sam
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 9:31 AM, Gruss Gott wrote: > >> >> 20% of 30b = 6b >> 1.6 / 6 * 100 = 26.6% >> > > (1.) You're religious.  Never try to prove your religion with real > world facts.  You'll lose every time. I haven't lost yet except in your mind. > (2.) Exxon, even after every accounting

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2011-04-29 Thread Gruss Gott
Sam wrote: > > I thought 80% was too high. > > > 20% of 30b = 6b > 1.6 / 6 * 100 = 26.6% > Here's the take-away message with this: (1.) You're religious. Never try to prove your religion with real world facts. You'll lose every time. (2.) Exxon, even after every accounting shenanigan in the

Re: Exxon taxes

2011-04-28 Thread Sam
Ah that's a cute way of telling everyone how much you earn. Proud are you? I'd like to point out that as developers and engineers, not many of us here are in the 35% bracket. Why not post some more car photos. :) . On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > And not only that, but w

Re: Exxon taxes

2011-04-28 Thread Sam
I thought 80% was too high. 20% of 30b = 6b 1.6 / 6 * 100 = 26.6% Time to call yer wife. :P . On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > No need to.  I took my numbers directly from the ExxonMobile's 10k > filing (unless you're calling their filing fraudulent). > > Here's the li

Re: Exxon taxes

2011-04-28 Thread Gruss Gott
Sam wrote: > > Smoking dope is fun eh? > > Let's rethink that. > No need to. I took my numbers directly from the ExxonMobile's 10k filing (unless you're calling their filing fraudulent). Here's the line from their 2010 10-k SEC file: Net income attributable to ExxonMobil $

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2011-04-28 Thread Sam
I know, or you're going to call your wife and have her back you up? . On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 8:35 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > Sam wrote: >> >> Why, you were shot down. > > Sammy I can only embarrass you so  many times before ... well ... it > starts to feel a little abusive. > > Cut me some sl

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2011-04-28 Thread Sam
Smoking dope is fun eh? Let's rethink that. Judah's #'s: Exxon had a profit of 10.65 billion on sales of 114.85 billion. 1.6 /10 * 100 = 16% Now let's remember 80 % of the profit comes from overseas earnings. They also pay income tax in other countries. 20% of 10b = 2b 1.6 / 2 * 100 = 80% wooo

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2011-04-28 Thread Gruss Gott
Sam wrote: > > Why, you were shot down. Sammy I can only embarrass you so many times before ... well ... it starts to feel a little abusive. Cut me some slack on this one, hey. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! htt

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2011-04-28 Thread Sam
Why, you were shot down. Oh wait, in you're world all's well. Carry on. . On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 7:15 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > Eric Roberts wrote: >> >> Is that just US profit or is that total profit, including profits tucked >> away in tax havens... > > Search for the other exxon thread whe

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2011-04-28 Thread Gruss Gott
Maureen wrote: > It's a nice sound bite, but it's also a huge lie. > > On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Gruss Gott wrote: >> Just think of all the American jobs they're creating. > I was joking. As a multi-national they cut US jobs, hide profits, and rape the US taxpayer. Let's take a closer

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2011-04-28 Thread Maureen
Assumes facts not in evidence. Exxon is not a US corporation, they are a multi-national corporation, and they have presented no proof that receiving subsides or deductions add a single US job, or increases in any way domestic oil production. It's a nice sound bite, but it's also a huge lie. On

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2011-04-28 Thread Gruss Gott
Eric Roberts wrote: > > Is that just US profit or is that total profit, including profits tucked > away in tax havens... Search for the other exxon thread where i posted all of the numbers for 2010 including net revenue, etc. ~

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2011-04-28 Thread Eric Roberts
Is that just US profit or is that total profit, including profits tucked away in tax havens... -Original Message- From: Jacob [mailto:ja...@excaliburfilms.com] Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 02:15 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: Exxon taxes 9% profit margin. Does not sound like Exxon

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2011-04-28 Thread Sam
And that money goes to share holders. Let's think about that, 80% of the money is made over seas and 85% of the profit goes to the US. That also means 401k's so most of us win. . On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Ras Tafari wrote: > > when 9% is 9 billion, it is rape. (i dont know the real numb

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2011-04-28 Thread Ras Tafari
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 10:39 AM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Exxon taxes > > > Exxon earnings were announced this morning, actually. > > Profit of 10.65 billion on sales of 114.85 billion. > > Cheers, > Judah > > On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:2

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2011-04-28 Thread Jacob
9% profit margin. Does not sound like Exxon is raping the consumer... -Original Message- From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 10:39 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Exxon taxes Exxon earnings were announced this morning, actually. Profit

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2011-04-28 Thread G Money
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > > and I'm sure they pay their fair share, including their executives! > > Just think of all the American jobs they're creating. > My brother works for Exxonso they support him, his lovely wife, and their 3 children, including (surprise) t

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2011-04-28 Thread Gruss Gott
G Money wrote: > > Man...hard times for the oil companies. > > Perhaps we should shoot them some more subsidies > and I'm sure they pay their fair share, including their executives! Just think of all the American jobs they're creating. ~~

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2011-04-28 Thread Eric Roberts
Or get a 312 million dollar rebate... -Original Message- From: G Money [mailto:gm0n3...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 12:27 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Exxon taxes my heart bleeds for the Exxon corporation. What kind of revenue do you have to have coming in to owe

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2011-04-28 Thread G Money
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Also, while their earnings per share slightly exceeded consensus > estimates, their stock fell because they did not match their record > earnings of $14 billion they achieved in 2008 when oil hit $147 per > barrel. > Man...hard times for

Re: Exxon taxes

2011-04-28 Thread Sam
Are you delusional? You actually think I was the one that was supposed to be embarrassed by your foolish and meaningless rant? You are saying they don't pay US income taxes. I am saying they do. You say, oops, well they don't pay enough. I say you are comparing international sales and US taxes.

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2011-04-28 Thread Casey Dougall
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Also, while their earnings per share slightly exceeded consensus > estimates, their stock fell because they did not match their record > earnings of $14 billion they achieved in 2008 when oil hit $147 per > barrel. > > Judah > > Guess it

Re: Exxon taxes

2011-04-28 Thread Judah McAuley
Also, while their earnings per share slightly exceeded consensus estimates, their stock fell because they did not match their record earnings of $14 billion they achieved in 2008 when oil hit $147 per barrel. Judah On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Judah McAuley wrote: > Exxon earnings were ann

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2011-04-28 Thread Gruss Gott
Sam wrote: > > More than they earned? > Sam. Do you really want me to embarrass you again by going through the numbers? They pay a lesser tax rate than you, and that's using *their* numbers. Are you really trying to argue a multi-national oil company is paying their fair share? Are you argu

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2011-04-28 Thread Judah McAuley
Exxon earnings were announced this morning, actually. Profit of 10.65 billion on sales of 114.85 billion. Cheers, Judah On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 10:26 AM, G Money wrote: > > my heart bleeds for the Exxon corporation. > > What kind of revenue do you have to have coming in to owe 9.8 BILLION in >

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2011-04-28 Thread Casey Dougall
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Sam wrote: > > More than they earned? > > . I bet it's in Sales tax ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffu

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2011-04-28 Thread Sam
More than they earned? . On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 1:26 PM, G Money wrote: > > my heart bleeds for the Exxon corporation. > > What kind of revenue do you have to have coming in to owe 9.8 BILLION in > taxes? ~| Order the Adobe C

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2011-04-28 Thread G Money
my heart bleeds for the Exxon corporation. What kind of revenue do you have to have coming in to owe 9.8 BILLION in taxes? On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Sam wrote: > > About Exxon not paying income taxes... > > > http://www.exxonmobilperspectives.com/2011/04/27/gas-prices-and-industry-earn

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2011-04-28 Thread Casey Dougall
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Sam wrote: > > About Exxon not paying income taxes... > > > http://www.exxonmobilperspectives.com/2011/04/27/gas-prices-and-industry-earnings-a-few-things-to-think-about/ > > ExxonMobil is one of the largest taxpayers in the United States > Last year, our total t