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2005-09-27 Thread Sam
Limited to just one pencil? On 9/27/05, Gruss Gott wrote: > Can we get back to calling Bush the Statue of Limitations? I'm really > enjoying that. ~| Purchase Homesite Plus with Dreamweaver from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Au

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2005-09-27 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > Funny thing is you're wrong :) > Can we get back to calling Bush the Statue of Limitations? I'm really enjoying that. ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http:/

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2005-09-27 Thread Sam
Funny thing is you're wrong :) http://www.rainn.org/statutesoflimitationcrim.html Statutes of limitation for prosecuting rape and/or sexual assault Arkansas Limitation: The prosecution of a felony rape is to commence within six years after the commission of the offense. DNA Exception: The period

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2005-09-27 Thread Jerry Johnson
In many jurisdictions that is now correct, but in the past it wasn't. And it isn't global yet. And any crime is only prosecutable by the laws in effect at the time of the crime. On 9/27/05, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Funny thing is that the the statute of limitations is not appli

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2005-09-27 Thread G
Very true. But you can't just turn your back and quit watching them. That was Clinton's mistake. He seemed to take them at their word and then forget about them. At least this administration is engaging them. I know we aren't invading, you know that toobut these Il'sthey're a parano

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2005-09-27 Thread Gruss Gott
> Brian wrote: > There is no punchline...only the sad fact that Clinton's sunshine policy > towards North Korea You say that as if there's an alternative. The current policy is really just the Sunshine policy with meaningless tough talk. New name, same effect. Let's fact it - we're not invading

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2005-09-27 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Funny thing is that the the statute of limitations is not applicable to certain crimes, including rape. Although Statue of Limitations seems particularly appropriate to the shrubbery. larry On 9/27/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sam wrote: > > Statue of limitations > > > > Let's l

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2005-09-27 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > Statue of limitations > Let's leave the centerpiece of your Bush shrine out of this. ~| Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=17 Message: http://www.ho

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2005-09-27 Thread G
There is no punchline...only the sad fact that Clinton's sunshine policy towards North Korea, galvanized with that 1994 (think that was the year) accord he signed, has left the world in a really dangerous situation. NK used that accord to ramp up their clandestine nuke program, while the United

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2005-09-27 Thread Sam
Not me, the children and it starts with Clinton. This President has the opportunity to change the perception but according to the left he made it worse. Where's Gruss anyway, it's his point :) I was just saying it wasn't lying about a BJ that created the distrust it was why he had to lie about it.

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2005-09-27 Thread Dana
MAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 2:06 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Fw: Breaking News - Anti-war protester Cindy > > Sheehan arrested outside White House > > > > yeah he was in Afghanistan. I actually don't recall a Juanita > &g

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2005-09-27 Thread Timothy Heald
You mean the Schiavo thing? I think I was back for the ass end of it, but stayed far away form it. > -Original Message- > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 2:06 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Fw: Breaking News - Anti-war

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2005-09-27 Thread Dana
/me examines this from all sides looking for the punch line... On 9/27/05, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > yeah, that's the key issue. I think he was an ok president, even if I > > wouldn't let him close to my thirteen year old daughter. > > > > Dana > > > > .or to a North Korean security

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2005-09-27 Thread G
> yeah, that's the key issue. I think he was an ok president, even if I > wouldn't let him close to my thirteen year old daughter. > > Dana > .or to a North Korean security treaty. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase yo

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2005-09-27 Thread Jerry Johnson
So you are saying that Bill Clinton's sexual escapades make you distrust George Bush? Or look back at Ronald Reagan and Thomas Jefferson and distrust them? That the seal of the President is somehow forever tarnished? You think that the next President will have a harder time at his job because of w

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2005-09-27 Thread Sam
Now that's defamation of character. This is the first mention I've heard of him being a pedophile. What facts do you base this on? :P On 9/27/05, Dana wrote: > yeah, that's the key issue. I think he was an ok president, even if I > wouldn't let him close to my thirteen year old daughter. > > Dana

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2005-09-27 Thread Sam
I think it works out the same. On 9/27/05, Jerry Johnson wrote: > But is it distrust for the President, or distrust for the Presidency? > > Gruss was talking about distrust for the institution of President. ~| All-in-one: antivir

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2005-09-27 Thread Dana
yeah, that's the key issue. I think he was an ok president, even if I wouldn't let him close to my thirteen year old daughter. Dana On 9/27/05, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But is it distrust for the President, or distrust for the Presidency? > > Gruss was talking about distrust

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2005-09-27 Thread Jerry Johnson
But is it distrust for the President, or distrust for the Presidency? Gruss was talking about distrust for the institution of President. On 9/27/05, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's where distrust for the President is that GG was talking about > in my opinion.

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2005-09-27 Thread Dana
statue and statute. > > > -Original Message- > > From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 1:45 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: RE: Fw: Breaking News - Anti-war protester Cindy > > Sheehan arrested outsi

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2005-09-27 Thread Sam
I did not make a libelous statement, I'm just referring to what she stated publicly. Innocent until proven guilty is fine but when there's a pattern of improper sexual behavior, proven lies to cover them up and then paying off an accuser, it's hard to honestly think Bill Clinton is a victim. That'

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2005-09-27 Thread Timothy Heald
To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Fw: Breaking News - Anti-war protester Cindy > Sheehan arrested outside White House > > Nope, that doesn't look like a defense to me. Quite the opposite. > > Matthew Small > > > -Original Message- > From: Timothy Heald [ma

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2005-09-27 Thread Dana
yeah he was in Afghanistan. I actually don't recall a Juanita so I can't say. This is true of most rape allegations however, unless the woman is unbalanced or has an agenda. I'm willing to believe he's a sleaze, but I guess I make a distinction between hypocritical sleaze in the course of employmen

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2005-09-27 Thread Dana
, Matthew Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Nope, that doesn't look like a defense to me. Quite the opposite. > > > > Matthew Small > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Timothy Heald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: T

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2005-09-27 Thread Sam
That is the point as to why there are no criminal charges. As for the proof, there's no reason not to believe her and no reason to believe Clinton. She gained nothing by coming forward. I guess Tim missed the whole Terry thread :) On 9/27/05, Dana wrote: > No ;) I said that in addition to his typ

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2005-09-27 Thread Matthew Small
w Small > > > -Original Message- > From: Timothy Heald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 1:43 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Fw: Breaking News - Anti-war protes

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2005-09-27 Thread Jerry Johnson
w Small > > > -Original Message- > From: Timothy Heald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 1:43 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: Fw: Breaking News - Anti-war protes

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2005-09-27 Thread Sam
Maybe that's why I didn't get it. :) On 9/27/05, Timothy Heald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Omg, >| >| > Did you just defend Sam? I mean right there \ / >

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2005-09-27 Thread Dana
t; V > > > -Original Message- > > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 1:36 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Fw: Breaking News - Anti-war protester Cindy > > Sheehan arrested outside White House > > >

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2005-09-27 Thread Matthew Small
From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 1:36 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Fw: Breaking News - Anti-war protester Cindy > Sheehan arrested outside White House > > What does that have to do with anything anyway, assuming he > means stat

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2005-09-27 Thread Howie Hamlin
And, until recently, wearing a drape around her bosom. --- On Tuesday, September 27, 2005 1:37 PM, Sam scribed: --- > > Yeah, you know the one where the lady is blindfolded and holding a > scale? > > On 9/27/05, Howie Hamlin wrote: >> Statue? >> > > ~~

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2005-09-27 Thread Timothy Heald
[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 1:36 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Fw: Breaking News - Anti-war protester Cindy > Sheehan arrested outside White House > > What does that have to do with anything anyway, assuming he > means statute? > Sam is no

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2005-09-27 Thread Sam
What do you mean? On 9/27/05, Dana wrote: > What does that have to do with anything anyway, assuming he means statute? > Sam is not a court of law. > ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficien

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2005-09-27 Thread Sam
Yeah, you know the one where the lady is blindfolded and holding a scale? On 9/27/05, Howie Hamlin wrote: > Statue? > ~| This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Ho

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2005-09-27 Thread Dana
What does that have to do with anything anyway, assuming he means statute? Sam is not a court of law. On 9/27/05, Howie Hamlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Statue? > > --- On Tuesday, September 27, 2005 1:18 PM, Sam scribed: --- > > > > Statue of limitations > > > > On 9/27/05, Jerry Johnson wro

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2005-09-27 Thread Howie Hamlin
Statue? --- On Tuesday, September 27, 2005 1:18 PM, Sam scribed: --- > > Statue of limitations > > On 9/27/05, Jerry Johnson wrote: >> Sam, where are the criminal charges? Where is the conviction? >> >> You can't say this was not scrutinized with every effort by the >> Republican dirt machine, s

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2005-09-27 Thread Dana
+10 On 9/27/05, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I support Chris Rock in his piece on Clinton. It's Hillary's fault. If she > was giving him what he needed, he wouldn't have to go to anyone else. One > of > a wife's jobs is to stop a husband from straying. Clinton should have had >

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2005-09-27 Thread Michael Dinowitz
I support Chris Rock in his piece on Clinton. It's Hillary's fault. If she was giving him what he needed, he wouldn't have to go to anyone else. One of a wife's jobs is to stop a husband from straying. Clinton should have had his wife there to run interference and give him the blow jobs rather t

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2005-09-27 Thread Sam
Statue of limitations On 9/27/05, Jerry Johnson wrote: > Sam, where are the criminal charges? Where is the conviction? > > You can't say this was not scrutinized with every effort by the > Republican dirt machine, so where is the evidence? > > (Not that I am saying he did not do it. Rape is often

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2005-09-27 Thread Dana
If true it is bad. But doesn't change my perception of Clinton as a flawed man who was an effective president. Dana On 9/27/05, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You're saying that it doesn't matter that a President Of The United > States of America raped Juanita Brodderick and got away with it

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2005-09-27 Thread Dana
It is not necessarily disrespectful to disagree with your children. I disagree with mine all the time, ie "No I will not turn down my Satriani and no, I will not download Ashley Simpson for you!" ;P Dana On 9/27/05, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > She disrespects the memory of he

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2005-09-27 Thread Jerry Johnson
Sam, where are the criminal charges? Where is the conviction? You can't say this was not scrutinized with every effort by the Republican dirt machine, so where is the evidence? (Not that I am saying he did not do it. Rape is often a he said-she said crime.) But Sam, back up your allegations with

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2005-09-27 Thread Sam
You're saying that it doesn't matter that a President Of The United States of America raped Juanita Brodderick and got away with it? What sort of example does that send to the people, if you get a raped by a Governor shut up or the press will ruin your life? On 9/26/05, Dana wrote: > Doesn't matt

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2005-09-27 Thread Ray Champagne
Touche' Sam wrote: > Based on the pencil holder you just purchased I'm guessing it's "do". > > On 9/27/05, Ray Champagne wrote: > >>LOLso I did. :) >> >>For the record, unless we get a woman pres, I would just like to "be". >>And Hillary doesn't count as a woman. :) >> > > > ~~

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2005-09-27 Thread Sam
Based on the pencil holder you just purchased I'm guessing it's "do". On 9/27/05, Ray Champagne wrote: > LOLso I did. :) > > For the record, unless we get a woman pres, I would just like to "be". > And Hillary doesn't count as a woman. :) > ~~

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2005-09-27 Thread Sam
How is Watergate any worse than Filegate or Sockgate? The BJ isn't what caused disrespect, it's the pattern of abuse towards women. Monica was willing, many others weren't. On 9/27/05, Howie Hamlin wrote: > Not to belittle what Clinton did but he just got caught doing it. There were > many othe

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2005-09-27 Thread Jerry Johnson
I think there are certain perks that go with any job. I think that many of the personality types that crave top positions consider power an aphrodesiac, and use it as a tool to pursue their favorite hobby. Others get free plane trips, the best wines with dinner, or duck hunting trips. Clinton wan

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2005-09-27 Thread G
>I just don't get why you are so upset by this. I'm not upset. I actually think it was hilarious he was getting a BJ whilst on the phone. But if someone were to say "Hey, that's wrong, what if he missed something important?" I'd have to agree with them. Wouldn't you? > How did his getting oral

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2005-09-27 Thread Jerry Johnson
I didn't say that. I said it was rude. Which it is. So is eating while you are talking on the phone. So is reading your email while talking on the phone. On 9/27/05, Timothy Heald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Getting a BJ while on the phone is wrong. Even if it was from his wife, > which this

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2005-09-27 Thread Jerry Johnson
I just don't get why you are so upset by this. How did his getting oral sex affect your life in any way? In any way whatsoever? I agree that the Egyptian leader should have been miffed. I agree that Monica's parents should have been upset. I agree that Hillary should have removed the offending pa

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2005-09-27 Thread Timothy Heald
I mean you have to cut some seriously messed up deals just to get there. Tim > -Original Message- > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 11:46 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Fw: Breaking News - Anti-war protester Cind

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2005-09-27 Thread G
Uh. i agree with all that you are saying, but i don't know WHY you are saying it. Jerry said he thought getting a BJ while on the phone with a head of state was just part of being president, and somehow less unsettling than Reagan's naps or Bush's misunderstanding of common worker tools. I thou

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2005-09-27 Thread Timothy Heald
"Getting a BJ while on the phone is wrong. Even if it was from his wife, which this clearly was not. It is rude to the person you are talking to and distracts you from the task at hand." Come on man, you've NEVER done that? Tim ~

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2005-09-27 Thread G
> For the President to consult an astrologer, it disturbs me that > national policy may be decided on such esoteric advice. Yet, the fact that foreign policy discussion could be occurring while the Prez is getting head...doesn't disturb you? Or somehow disturbs you LESS? We don't know what w

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2005-09-27 Thread Larry C. Lyons
You mean that authorizing your assistants to deliberately break US law isn't egregious? I'm referring here to Iran-Contra and Ronnie Raygun. Also there was evidence that George Bush Sr. also knew and approved funding and authorizing flights to Iran and exchanging anti-air missles for fire arms to b

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2005-09-27 Thread Jerry Johnson
We were talking about things that make me lose respect for the INSTITUTION or SYMBOL of the Presidency. Getting a BJ while on the phone is wrong. Even if it was from his wife, which this clearly was not. It is rude to the person you are talking to and distracts you from the task at hand. But my u

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2005-09-27 Thread Howie Hamlin
Reminds me of an old knock knock joke :) --- On Tuesday, September 27, 2005 11:33 AM, Matthew Small scribed: --- > > Sure it is. Eisenhower did it too. > > Matthew Small > > ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company'

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2005-09-27 Thread Matthew Small
Sure it is. Eisenhower did it too. Matthew Small -Original Message- From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 11:20 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Fw: Breaking News - Anti-war protester Cindy Sheehan arrested outside White House >I would include

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2005-09-27 Thread Ray Champagne
LOLso I did. :) For the record, unless we get a woman pres, I would just like to "be". And Hillary doesn't count as a woman. :) Ian Skinner wrote: > "I want to president!" > > Ray, I think you left out a critical verb there, was it "be" or "do"? > > D&R > > -- > Ian Skinner

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2005-09-27 Thread Ian Skinner
"I want to president!" Ray, I think you left out a critical verb there, was it "be" or "do"? D&R -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA "C code. C code run. Run code run. Please!" - Cynthia Dunning Confidentiality Notice: This message includi

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2005-09-27 Thread Ray Champagne
> Okso.taking naps, consulting an astrologer, and misunderstanding a > barcode reader.are all egregious acts for a president.but > receiving a BJ while on the phone with another head of stateis just part > of being president? I want to president! ~

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2005-09-27 Thread G
>I would include in that Reagan's astrologer, his being asleep during > crucial meetings, Haig saying "I'm in charge" after Reagan was > tragically shot. Bush Sr. not knowing what a barcode reader was for at > the grocery. > > I actually think what Clinton did was perfectly in keeping with the > ro

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2005-09-27 Thread Jerry Johnson
I would include in that Reagan's astrologer, his being asleep during crucial meetings, Haig saying "I'm in charge" after Reagan was tragically shot. Bush Sr. not knowing what a barcode reader was for at the grocery. I actually think what Clinton did was perfectly in keeping with the role of Presid

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2005-09-27 Thread Howie Hamlin
Not to belittle what Clinton did but he just got caught doing it. There were many other impropieties involving women in other administrations. The difference is that the media used to look past those things and Linda Tripp wasn't around as well... But, if I had to pick out a greater evil then

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2005-09-27 Thread Howie Hamlin
Well, the mission was to rescue the hostages. If we just wanted to take out the armed students then that would have been an entirely different operation. It's not easy rescuing captives under those circumstances. Howie --- On Tuesday, September 27, 2005 10:36 AM, Jerry Johnson scribed: --- >

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2005-09-27 Thread Gruss Gott
> Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Clinton started the distrust of Government? Really? > Yes, maybe I should change that line to "erosion of institutional confidence." That is, there has always been mistrust of government. You're a bad American, IMO, if you don't. What Pres Clinton di

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2005-09-27 Thread Jerry Johnson
Exactly. I remember at the time of the Iran Hostage Crisis a general feeling of unease with our government, and then a feeling of panic and anger when the rescue mission went awry and people realized that there was little our government and military could do against a couple hundred armed students.

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2005-09-27 Thread Michael Dinowitz
She disrespects the memory of her son by saying that the choices he made, the lives he saved and the job he volunteered for was all for nothing. He didn't think that it was for nothing. > She might be a wack job now through the death of her son. > If she was unstable before that could certainly

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2005-09-27 Thread G
Nothing? :) > Carter? What did he do??? > ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion

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2005-09-27 Thread Howie Hamlin
Carter? What did he do??? --- On Tuesday, September 27, 2005 10:19 AM, Jerry Johnson scribed: --- > > Clinton started the distrust of Government? Really? > > I thought it might have been Nixon. Or Carter. Or the Iran-Contra > issue. Or the Teapot Dome scandal. Or "Read my lips. No new taxes". Or

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2005-09-27 Thread Jerry Johnson
Clinton started the distrust of Government? Really? I thought it might have been Nixon. Or Carter. Or the Iran-Contra issue. Or the Teapot Dome scandal. Or "Read my lips. No new taxes". Or Senator Bob Pack-Wood. Gary Hart? Chappaquidick? A KKK member in the White House? Yep, distrusting governmen

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2005-09-27 Thread Howie Hamlin
Even if that were true most people have an idea of what Watergate was about. And, I would hope that they appreciated the seriousness of the incident. Also, Iran-Contra happened not that long ago and that was another serious incident (read criminal). Howie --- On Tuesday, September 27, 2005 8

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2005-09-27 Thread Larry C. Lyons
Reagan and Bush honest and trustworthy What about the Tower Commission, Iran Contra (strict and willing violation of US laws with the full knowledge of the sitting president), the entire Nicaragua conflict, at one point Bush Sr. had 4 cabinet members under investigation. And then there is Nixon..

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2005-09-27 Thread Matthew Small
Most of us on this list can't even remember that, it's from a bygone era. Matthew Small -Original Message- From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 6:57 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Fw: Breaking News - Anti-war protester Cindy Sheeha

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2005-09-27 Thread Gruss Gott
> Howie wrote: > Yeah, previous presidents were so honest. Take Tricky Dick for example... > Yes, but we had a good stretch in terms of trust: Ford, Carter, Reagan, Bush. Of course Pres. Reagan had the Iran-Contra thing but that was, really, a much lesser offense the Mr. Bush's fake war. That i

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2005-09-27 Thread Howie Hamlin
Yeah, previous presidents were so honest. Take Tricky Dick for example... --- On Monday, September 26, 2005 6:10 PM, Gruss Gott scribed: --- > > and, to be fair, Pres. Clinton started the distrust of gov't. > > ~| Find out how

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2005-09-26 Thread Dana
Doesn't matter really. For me, it started with Nixon. Only a Republican could overlook that in favor of bedroom escapades ;) Dana On 9/26/05, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think he's talking about sexually abusing Paula Jones or was he > talking about Kathleen Wiley? Maybe it was Juanita

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2005-09-26 Thread Sam
I think he's talking about sexually abusing Paula Jones or was he talking about Kathleen Wiley? Maybe it was Juanita Broderick. :) On 9/26/05, Dana wrote: > blow job blow job blow job > > On 9/26/05, Gruss Gott wrote: > > > > I think many people feel like there's not much they can trust anymore >

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2005-09-26 Thread Dana
blow job blow job blow job On 9/26/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Dana wrote: > > I wonder how many other kids who might have wanted to serve > > their country will not because they don't want to be in the next Iraq. > > It's even broader than that, most American institutions have

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2005-09-26 Thread Vivec
She might be a wack job now through the death of her son. If she was unstable before that could certainly push someone over the edge. Poor woman. She's probably heartbroken and this whole thing burying herself in this 'protest, an escape or an outlet from facing that he's never coming back. Sad.

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2005-09-26 Thread Gruss Gott
> Dana wrote: > I wonder how many other kids who might have wanted to serve > their country will not because they don't want to be in the next Iraq. It's even broader than that, most American institutions have been crumbling: * Catholic Church (being naughty) * Supreme Court (deciding elections)

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2005-09-26 Thread Dana
y are called, but can't see how invoking chaos in a > country that was stable, even if hostile, can possibly bring a greater > good > for our nation. > > Matthew Small > > > -Original Message- > From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, September

Re: Fw: Breaking News - Anti-war protester Cindy Sheehan arrested outside White House

2005-09-26 Thread Dana
taken into custody. She stood up and was led to a > > police vehicle while protesters chanted: "The whole world is watching." > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 2:11 PM > > To: C

Re: Fw: Breaking News - Anti-war protester Cindy Sheehan arrested outside White House

2005-09-26 Thread John Dowdell
G wrote: > I'm so sick of this inconsequential news story...i'm numb. Try search term "fenton communications"... they're very, very successful at what they do, and their low profile is in itself remarkable, considering. (Me, I *still* think Cindy Sheehan may be a Karl Rove mole in his classic "

Re: Fw: Breaking News - Anti-war protester Cindy Sheehan arrested outside White House

2005-09-26 Thread Robert Munn
I would watch that! More to the point, look at this picture: http://tinyurl.com/cfxsv She looks like she's drunk and crowd-surfing at Coachella. Now come on, is this really a serious news story? >I wasn't watching. > >Cindy could be dipped in honey and fed to grizzly bears and I wouldn't >bl

Re: Fw: Breaking News - Anti-war protester Cindy Sheehan arrested outside White House

2005-09-26 Thread Sam
I didn't start this thread. You seem to be idolizing her as your new symbol of what's wrong with this Prez. Now that you realize she's not the perfect spokesperson you wag you're finger at me for attacking her. She wanted to be arrested; she wants to be your anti-war symbol. Most people ignore he

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2005-09-26 Thread Sam
It's only Monday, go easy on me. Are you saying I quit my job to become a Sheehan Spokesman? How did you arrive at that conclusion? I thought you wanted to be her spokesperson and I was just explaining what your new position represents. :) On 9/26/05, Gruss Gott wrote: > > Gave up your coding car

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2005-09-26 Thread Cameron Childress
On 9/26/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ray said it best, ignoring her is a win-win. Yes, you are right. > That old law of unintended consequences ... the PR crazy neo-cons, in > their zeal to vilify everyone, just can't seem to stop invoking it. Also correct, though neo-cons are fa

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2005-09-26 Thread Gruss Gott
> Cameron wrote: > I was ambililant before, but after reading that wiki page I > am totally and completely sure she's a wack-job. > Ray said it best, ignoring her is a win-win. The irony to Sam's posting is that he elevates her from loony nutjob to political icon by posting implicit disagreements

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2005-09-26 Thread Gruss Gott
> Sam wrote: > If you support her views than you agree: > - Israel should get out of Palestine > Blah Blah Blah Gave up your coding career for Sheehan Spokesman? Bold move. But ... sometimes boldness is genius. ~| Get the mails

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2005-09-26 Thread Gruss Gott
> Brian wrote: > I just think she's annoying, and is nothing more than a symbol of how > frickin' annoying people can be. > LOL! Do we really need any more of those symbols? ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's c

Re: Fw: Breaking News - Anti-war protester Cindy Sheehan arrested outside White House

2005-09-26 Thread Cameron Childress
Yeah, I was just reading that wiki posting too. It's definitely a compelling bit of text supporting the fact that Sheehan is a total nutcase. I was ambililant before, but after reading that wiki page I am totally and completely sure she's a wack-job. -Cameron On 9/26/05, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Fw: Breaking News - Anti-war protester Cindy Sheehan arrested outside White House

2005-09-26 Thread Sam
Cute, but I got it from here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cindy_Sheehan On 9/26/05, Cameron Childress wrote: > Words straight from Bill Oreilly's mouth (cept the orleans part): > http://www.foxnews.com.edgesuite.net/story/0,2933,170195,00.html > ~

Re: Fw: Breaking News - Anti-war protester Cindy Sheehan arrested outside White House

2005-09-26 Thread Cameron Childress
Words straight from Bill Oreilly's mouth (cept the orleans part): http://www.foxnews.com.edgesuite.net/story/0,2933,170195,00.html On 9/26/05, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sheehan seems to be doing more harm to the Dems than to Bush. > She even forced Hillary Clinton to support the war. > If y

Re: Fw: Breaking News - Anti-war protester Cindy Sheehan arrested outside White House

2005-09-26 Thread Sam
Sheehan seems to be doing more harm to the Dems than to Bush. She even forced Hillary Clinton to support the war. If you support her views than you agree: - Israel should get out of Palestine - we should not have attacked Afghanistan - Iraqi insurgents are freedom fighters - we should not have occu

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2005-09-26 Thread G
w Small > > > -----Original Message----- > From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 3:03 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Fw: Breaking News - Anti-war protester Cindy Sheehan arrested > outside White House > > I dunnoAmericans lo

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2005-09-26 Thread Matthew Small
ct: Re: Fw: Breaking News - Anti-war protester Cindy Sheehan arrested outside White House I dunnoAmericans love to take people and turn them into "relevant symbols". Sheehan is a "symbol" of how evil Bush is...or Sheehan is a "symbol" of how nutty th

Re: Fw: Breaking News - Anti-war protester Cindy Sheehan arrested outside White House

2005-09-26 Thread Cameron Childress
I have this vision of her standing outside the White House and being told not to touch the security fence and then her standing there for half an hour with her finger an inch from the fence chanting "Not touching! Not touching! Not touching! Not touching!". I do see a similarity between protesters

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2005-09-26 Thread G
I dunnoAmericans love to take people and turn them into "relevant symbols". Sheehan is a "symbol" of how evil Bush is...or Sheehan is a "symbol" of how nutty the left is I just think she's annoying, and is nothing more than a symbol of how frickin' annoying people can be. > Ha

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2005-09-26 Thread Raymond Camden
an was the first taken into custody. She stood up and was led to a > police vehicle while protesters chanted: "The whole world is watching." > > -Original Message- > From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 2:11 PM > To: CF-

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