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I find the previous article interesting http://www.startribune.com/politics/blogs/206814691.html House floor debate civil, but passionate (unlike the previous post) Until Later! C. Hatton Humphrey http://www.eastcoastconservative.com Every cloud does have a silver lining. Sometimes you just

Re: House Of Cards

It's based on a British series from a few years back, which is based on the novel. Netflix also has the British version. Both are excellent. The British version is quite a bit darker. On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Bruce Sorge wrote: > > So I have been watching this Netflix original serie

Re: House Of Cards

He is a really good actor. Sent from my iPhone 4S. On Feb 27, 2013, at 7:59 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > I watched it, I thought it was pretty good, but I love Spacey (sp?). > On Feb 27, 2013 7:42 PM, "Bruce Sorge" wrote: > >> >> So I have been watching this Netflix original series called Ho

Re: House Of Cards

I watched it, I thought it was pretty good, but I love Spacey (sp?). On Feb 27, 2013 7:42 PM, "Bruce Sorge" wrote: > > So I have been watching this Netflix original series called House Of > Cards. It's an interesting show about Washington politics. How accurate it > is I can't say, but if its ev

RE: House of Fusion

I was getting that error from the site the other day but the list was happily chugging along so I didn't think much of it. -Original Message- From: Ian Skinner [mailto:h...@ilsweb.com] Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 8:36 AM To: cf-community Subject: House of Fusion Are you there? Frida

Re: house health care reform bill

> Maureen wrote: > > you forgot the obscene profits. > The real problem, if I take your point, is not profit - that's what companies (and everyone here) does. Rather it's market regulation. Classic supply and demand, right? More demand than supply at a given price. So the failure here is a m

Re: house health care reform bill

you forgot the obscene profits. On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > You contend that patient and provider are the top drivers of costs. > You contend that administrators and payers are "dinosaurs". > > So tell me the rising cost drivers on the "admin" side that I'm > missing and

Re: house health care reform bill

> Judah wrote: > I explained what I do. It is not what insurance companies do. > But then you wouldn't know. Here, I'll show you: I think we can agree that there are 4 constituents in the supply chain: patient, provider, administrator, payer. My contention (and the Obama administration's) is t

Re: house health care reform bill

You keep on telling yourself that Gruss :) I explained what I do. It is not what insurance companies do. Judah On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Gruss Gott wrote: > >> Judah wrote: >> >> Uh, no. >> > > You said the work you're doing is "healthcare reform", but it's really > operations automatio

Re: house health care reform bill

> Judah wrote: > > Uh, no. > You said the work you're doing is "healthcare reform", but it's really operations automation and optimization. "Insurance companies" *primarily* do what you do, just end-to-end. your focus is simply on one piece of the supply chain while their focus is on the whole t

Re: house health care reform bill

Uh, no. On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Gruss Gott wrote: > >> Judah wrote: >> Uh, I told you what I do. Connectivity between systems and information >> portability. Software for insurance companies focuses on insurance >> related concerns, often times in the areas of claims management and >> v

Re: house health care reform bill

> Judah wrote: > Uh, I told you what I do. Connectivity between systems and information > portability. Software for insurance companies focuses on insurance > related concerns, often times in the areas of claims management and > validation, policy/document management, right - so basically it brea

Re: house health care reform bill

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Gruss Gott wrote: > >> Judah wrote: >> My sector is going to do well no matter who wins the healthcare reform >> battle in Congress right now. We do connectivity between systems and >> information portability > > What work is it that you think people at "insurance

Re: house health care reform bill

> Judah wrote: > My sector is going to do well no matter who wins the healthcare reform > battle in Congress right now. We do connectivity between systems and > information portability What work is it that you think people at "insurance companies" do different for the work you do? You make softw

Re: house health care reform bill

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > Hey, last I heard, you worked in the Health Informatics industry.  In > other words you're an industry shill too right? My sector is going to do well no matter who wins the healthcare reform battle in Congress right now. We do connectivity bet

Re: house health care reform bill

> Dana wrote: > On first glance, it looks > good. > A few thoughts: > Here's a nice set of facts about it: - The Congressional Budget Office estimated in a letter to Rep. Charles Rangel (D-N.Y.) o

Re: house health care reform bill

> Judah wrote: > > Health insurance? I'd call them dinosaurs nearing the end of their > reign. Extinct? Not likely, but rather radically evolved to be totally > different than the form they take now. > And what's the future financing model in your view? And who is going to be all this money in h

Re: house health care reform bill

> Judah wrote: > > As I've shown through actual, you know, facts and shit, the costs are > not all on the provider side Gruss. Many are. Many are not. You are a > fucking industry shill. > Hey, last I heard, you worked in the Health Informatics industry. In other words you're an industry shill t

Re: house health care reform bill

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > i was talking to a doctor today who said he thinks up to a third of private > practitioners will leave medical practice in the next five years if the > suggested/threatened changes go forward. not good. I talked with 3 different practices toda

Re: house health care reform bill

As I've shown through actual, you know, facts and shit, the costs are not all on the provider side Gruss. Many are. Many are not. You are a fucking industry shill. As for this bill, I don't have an opinion yet. I'll wait and read it. On the bright side, I did recently finish reading the definiti

Re: house health care reform bill

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Scott Stro wrote: > > I can tell you that if 'the medicare rate' if for all patients at all > hospitals/physicians offices, there will be many, many closures of > those facilities. > > Services such as EMS might cease to exist, or at the very least be > seriously

Re: house health care reform bill

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 6:08 PM, Gruss G wrote: > > > > Beware of anyone who says, "just give me your money and I'll spend it > wisely for you. uh, isn't that the definition of liberal government? ~| Want to reach the ColdFus

Re: house health care reform bill

> Dana wrote: > >  Don't have time to read the material right now, but am interested in > everyone's comments. I think any new policy MUST "bend the cost curve" as Obama likes to say or it will reform nothing. And, as mentioned before, those costs are on the provider side. Period. But I also t

Re: house health care reform bill

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 5:23 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > I can tell you that if 'the medicare rate' if for all patients at all > hospitals/physicians offices, there will be many, many closures of > those facilities. > > Services such as EMS might cease to exist, or at the very least be > seriously

Re: house health care reform bill

I can tell you that if 'the medicare rate' if for all patients at all hospitals/physicians offices, there will be many, many closures of those facilities. Services such as EMS might cease to exist, or at the very least be seriously diminished. On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Dana wrote: > >  Do

Re: house health care reform bill

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Dana <> wrote: > > Don't have time to read the material > Don't worry, Congress doesn't have time to read it either. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let the

Re: House of Fusion needs a way to change the list to which a message has been sent.

its called "archive" nice little button in gmail to make that happen, and then if you want to recall it, just search your gmail for that topic and BAM, there's that message, tucked away, but still get-able! ras On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Ian Skinner wrote: > Well, from my e-mail client's

Re: House of Fusion needs a way to change the list to which a message has been sent.

Michael Dinowitz wrote: > It's a hands on CF class that teaches > debugging in the first 2 hours. I love teaching. > Sounds like a cool class. To bad I'm 3000 miles away at the other end of Interstate 80. > Ignore new messages as in not seeing them in the archive only or as in no > longer get

Re: House of Fusion needs a way to change the list to which a message has been sent.

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Ian Skinner wrote: > > Michael Dinowitz wrote: > > If you want it, I will build it. The unread part will be a little extra > work > > but do-able. A 'last X threads' or 'X days' would be easier though. > > > > Wow, you must be in a good mood today Michael! Has s

Re: House of Fusion needs a way to change the list to which a message has been sent.

yes, however, it appears only if they are not already filtered into a label :( On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Ray Champagne wrote: > > you can mute threads? > > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Ras Tafari wrote: > >> >> use gmail man. >> the conversation view is impeccable for this list. >> t

Re: House of Fusion needs a way to change the list to which a message has been sent.

you can mute threads? On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Ras Tafari wrote: > > use gmail man. > the conversation view is impeccable for this list. > the filtering is amazing, and you can even mute things! > > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Ian Skinner wrote: > > > > Michael Dinowitz wrote: > >

Re: House of Fusion needs a way to change the list to which a message has been sent.

use gmail man. the conversation view is impeccable for this list. the filtering is amazing, and you can even mute things! On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 2:03 PM, Ian Skinner wrote: > > Michael Dinowitz wrote: >> If you want it, I will build it. The unread part will be a little extra work >> but do-able

Re: House of Fusion needs a way to change the list to which a message has been sent.

Michael Dinowitz wrote: > If you want it, I will build it. The unread part will be a little extra work > but do-able. A 'last X threads' or 'X days' would be easier though. > Wow, you must be in a good mood today Michael! Has something gone right? Or is it he opposite and something has gone

Re: House of Fusion needs a way to change the list to which a message has been sent.

Michael Grant wrote: > LOL, I can see it now. All my contacts get emails from me telling them to go > fnuck themselves. > > "But... but... I _swear_ I didn't send you that email. I... I... I don't > know what's going on!" Nah... you wouldn't have to worry about *anything* like that. Really Trus

Re: House of Fusion needs a way to change the list to which a message has been sent.

If you want it, I will build it. The unread part will be a little extra work but do-able. A 'last X threads' or 'X days' would be easier though. Do you want just the threads or a mile long page with all of the messages you missed? On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 1:40 PM, Ian Skinner wrote: > > Michael

Re: House of Fusion needs a way to change the list to which a message has been sent.

LOL, I can see it now. All my contacts get emails from me telling them to go fnuck themselves. "But... but... I _swear_ I didn't send you that email. I... I... I don't know what's going on!" On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 1:35 PM, Ian Skinner wrote: > > Michael Grant wrote: > > Sorry again to get you

Re: House of Fusion needs a way to change the list to which a message has been sent.

Michael Dinowitz wrote: > There is an option in the archive to sort by first or last post. > But it is more then just sorting by the order of the posts. Its the ability to see all the unread messages from all the threads in all the lists I am subscribed to in a nice tree that I can just quic

Re: House of Fusion needs a way to change the list to which a message has been sent.

Michael Grant wrote: > Sorry again to get your back up Ian. Cheers mate. Ok then, I'll forgive you just as soon as you provide the aforementioned connective information to your computer. Then I can modify my messages, yeah, really, I'll just modify my messages Cheers ~~~

Re: House of Fusion needs a way to change the list to which a message has been sent.

There is an option in the archive to sort by first or last post. On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Ian Skinner wrote: > > Dana wrote: > > change cf-talk to web-only? but it's an interesting idea. What would > > you do, parse the text for CF? > > I don't like web interface for discussion forums.

Re: House of Fusion needs a way to change the list to which a message has been sent.

All of the lists have rss. On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Ian Skinner wrote: > > Ras Tafari wrote: > > hmmm, in gmail, all i have to type is "cf-" and BAM, its right there... > > > It is there for me as well, but my fingers keep on going with the final > 'f'. > > > why not use gmail for this

Re: House of Fusion needs a way to change the list to which a message has been sent.

you see this is the problem sometimes with digital commx... inflection and sarcasm are hard to discern sometimes... which is why i try to ALWAYS follow sarcasm with a smiley or if someone REALLY knows me, i dont care cause they'll get it anyway! word On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Michael Gra

Re: House of Fusion needs a way to change the list to which a message has been sent.

No no no, that was 1 zillion percent meant to just be a funny statement as it's obviously ridiculous. I'm truly sorry Ian if it came off prickish. I was hoping to get a chuckle. I certainly am not trying to offend. It's the same thing I've heard all my life, people just don't get when I'm joking.

Re: House of Fusion needs a way to change the list to which a message has been sent.

we both did ian. On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Ian Skinner wrote: > > G Money wrote: >> Or you may need to increase your sarcasm receptor settingsit was obvious >> to me at least that Michael's email was all in jest. > > Maybe Michael and I are using incompatible versions of the sarcasm

Re: House of Fusion needs a way to change the list to which a message has been sent.

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Ian Skinner wrote: > Maybe Michael and I are using incompatible versions of the sarcasm to > text translation protocol. Ah, yeah, STTP version 2 is incompatible with Outlook.. :) -- Glittering prizes and endless compromises Shatter the illusion of integ

Re: House of Fusion needs a way to change the list to which a message has been sent.

G Money wrote: > Or you may need to increase your sarcasm receptor settingsit was obvious > to me at least that Michael's email was all in jest. Maybe Michael and I are using incompatible versions of the sarcasm to text translation protocol. It read a little out of the blue and "shut the f

Re: House of Fusion needs a way to change the list to which a message has been sent.

im serious man, check out gmail, reader, calendar and docs. ive moved completely off the desktop for all that stuff, and im simply using my google account. it has given me more cpu cycles and ram for the important things... photoshop, dreamweaver and chrome. word. On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:34

Re: House of Fusion needs a way to change the list to which a message has been sent.

i was about to say the same thing. why be a prick, ian's not a prick. be a prick to pricks mikey, but not the non-pricks. On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Ian Skinner wrote: > > Michael Grant wrote: >> I suggest we give Ian remote access to ALL of our computers so that in this >> instance he

Re: House of Fusion needs a way to change the list to which a message has been sent.

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Ian Skinner wrote: > Did I do something to annoy you Michael? I feel there is some > unwarranted hostility in this message. > > You seem to be taking a silly, water cooler discussion on the foibles of > internet communications rather seriously in this post. > >

Re: House of Fusion needs a way to change the list to which a message has been sent.

Ras Tafari wrote: > reader does, and when in gmail, you can get to reader REALLY easily. > ive sworn off outlook and do not use it AT ALL and i was married to it for > too many years to admit. > > ras I've sworn off outlook long ago as well, but I still prefer a desktop based client that handles

Re: House of Fusion needs a way to change the list to which a message has been sent.

Michael Grant wrote: > I suggest we give Ian remote access to ALL of our computers so that in this > instance he can log in remotely and hard delete the message from all of our > mailboxes. Who's with me? Did I do something to annoy you Michael? I feel there is some unwarranted hostility in this

Re: House of Fusion needs a way to change the list to which a message has been sent.

reader does, and when in gmail, you can get to reader REALLY easily. ive sworn off outlook and do not use it AT ALL and i was married to it for too many years to admit. ras On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Ian Skinner wrote: > > Ras Tafari wrote: >> hmmm, in gmail, all i have to type is "cf-"

Re: House of Fusion needs a way to change the list to which a message has been sent.

I suggest we give Ian remote access to ALL of our computers so that in this instance he can log in remotely and hard delete the message from all of our mailboxes. Who's with me? On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Ian Skinner wrote: >

Re: House of Fusion needs a way to change the list to which a message has been sent.

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Ian Skinner wrote: > Probably, but I have been on other forums where this was a part of the > functionality where messages could be moved from one section to another > when they needed to be.  But these where primarily web based.  I presume > the e-mail interface

Re: House of Fusion needs a way to change the list to which a message has been sent.

Ras Tafari wrote: > hmmm, in gmail, all i have to type is "cf-" and BAM, its right there... > It is there for me as well, but my fingers keep on going with the final 'f'. > why not use gmail for this an all lists? I don't have gmail, before I bother going to look at it... does it also handle

Re: House of Fusion needs a way to change the list to which a message has been sent.

Casey Dougall wrote: > cf-community@houseoffusion.com > > seems fairly simple. > You might think so But there just seems to be something easier about quickly typing 'c','f','-','t','enter' then 'c','f','-','c','enter'. And before my brain can edit anything... off goes another message to

Re: House of Fusion needs a way to change the list to which a message has been sent.

hmmm, in gmail, all i have to type is "cf-" and BAM, its right there... why not use gmail for this an all lists? ras On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Ian Skinner wrote: > > Cameron Childress wrote: >> If everyone is having the problem, there may be something to be done >> on the HOF end.  If

Re: House of Fusion needs a way to change the list to which a message has been sent.

Cameron Childress wrote: > If everyone is having the problem, there may be something to be done > on the HOF end. If you are the primary one having the problem, > something may need to be done on your end. > > AFAICT - it's the latter, not the former. Probably, but I have been on other forums wh

Re: House of Fusion needs a way to change the list to which a message has been sent.

Dana wrote: > change cf-talk to web-only? but it's an interesting idea. What would > you do, parse the text for CF? I don't like web interface for discussion forums... It is just so much harder to quickly read through all the new posts... so much more clicking required. No... I don't think an

Re: House of Fusion needs a way to change the list to which a message has been sent.

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Ian Skinner wrote: > And it seems to be increasing in frequency > > At least for me. If everyone is having the problem, there may be something to be done on the HOF end. If you are the primary one having the problem, something may need to be done on your en

Re: House of Fusion needs a way to change the list to which a message has been sent.

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Ian Skinner wrote: > > Casey Dougall wrote: > > cf-community@houseoffusion.com > > > > seems fairly simple. > > > You might think so > > But there just seems to be something easier about quickly typing > 'c','f','-','t','enter' then 'c','f','-','c','enter'.

Re: House of Fusion needs a way to change the list to which a message has been sent.

change cf-talk to web-only? but it's an interesting idea. What would you do, parse the text for CF? On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 8:10 AM, Ian Skinner wrote: > > Or I need an e-mail client that says something like 'Idiot... you are > sending this e-mail to the wrong list'! > > See my Conservative Chri

Re: House of Fusion needs a way to change the list to which a message has been sent.

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Ian Skinner wrote: > > Or I need an e-mail client that says something like 'Idiot... you are > sending this e-mail to the wrong list'! > > See my Conservative Christian School post to see my latest entry into > the 'NOT ColdFusion topic sent to cf-talk. Somethi

Re: House passes massive economic stimulus package

People voted for Obama. Change was just a campaign slogan. Also, even retread Clinton appointees are a welcome change from the greed and incompetency of the Bush administration. I'm still waiting for the wisdom from those of you who think Obama is wrong. What's your plan for turning the econo

Re: House passes massive economic stimulus package

> RoMunn wrote: > > Mr. Diversion strikes again... > Not sure what yur talkin bout. You said the public hasn't had a chance to view it, yet you - the public - seem unaware of the very public site that was put up for you. Ignorance of the law is no excuse Robbie. ~~~

Re: House passes massive economic stimulus package

At least the 1930's ideas worked once. Can't say the same about Reaganomics. I'm really not an economics wiz. Not my field at all. I have studied the basics of macroeconomics, I understand business on a reasonably practical basis through time in the industry, I don't really get finance and market

Re: House passes massive economic stimulus package

People voted for change and they are getting retread Clinton flunkies and 1930's economic wisdom that no longer applies to this country. On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Judah M wrote: > The ideas > were offered up and defeated because...wait for itthe electorate > overwhelmingly voted for p

Re: House passes massive economic stimulus package

Oh, Ok. Well that's not too bad then. And I do not know about the special plate deal. I know that most states have specialized plates for military personnel. For instance, when I lived in Texas, I had Desert Storm plates, then later on OIF plates. But you actually pay a little extra for those.

Re: House passes massive economic stimulus package

That's the sales tax. The vehicle license tax is increasing 1/2 of a percent of the value of your vehicle. So the tag for an F250 worth 30K would increase by 150 dollars from 195 to 345, plus the cost for your commercial plate. Can't you get a special tag since you're in the military? On Fri,

Re: House passes massive economic stimulus package

Hmm. OK, thanks. I am going to guess that San Bernardino County will fall into the 9.25 percentile. Oh well, I already pay a boat load of money anyway since I have an F-250, which means I have commercial plates. Nine percent more won't kill me. Maureen wrote: > If it passes, it will probably

Re: House passes massive economic stimulus package

If it passes, it will probably go into effect with the new fiscal year on July 1. But they could implement it sooner depending in the legislation. The proposed increase is from .65% to 1.15% of the value of the vehicle. Sales tax is also going up 1% which will put it at 9.25 for most of the sta

Re: House passes massive economic stimulus package

Vehicle registration double? When is this going to happen? The reason that I ask is because although I am stationed in Colorado, my truck is still registered in California. My tags expire in June. Just need to know if I am going to have to register it in Colorado now or keep it California for

Re: House passes massive economic stimulus package

Republicans were brought in every step of the way. How do you think the bill ended up with so many more tax cuts than originally proposed by the administration? Republican amendments were offered and voted on. Lots of their ideas were not incorporated into the final bill, it is true. You know why?

Re: House passes massive economic stimulus package

>>> Nobody read it yet they voted for it. >>> >>> That's is change! > > Anybody know who keeps whining about not seeing this bill? It's right here: > > http://appropriations.house.gov/ Yup, that's the house version AFTER conference, AFTER Senate and AFTER consolidation. The House is supposed to

Re: House passes massive economic stimulus package

Mr. Diversion strikes again... On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Gruss wrote: > > > Mm hm. And when was the first time you looked for it? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date G

Re: House passes massive economic stimulus package

> RoMunn wrote: > > BS BS and more BS. The House Democrats wrote this bill by themselves, then > they negotiated the bill with Senate Democrats by themselves, leaving out > public disclosure until the last possible second. > Mm hm. And when was the first time you looked for it?

Re: House passes massive economic stimulus package

I want operational efficiency out of the Executive Branch agencies that actually spend the majority of our tax dollars - DOD, DOE, Commerce, HHS, Agriculture, Interior, etc. Like our Founding Fathers, I want slow, deliberative operations in the Legislative Branch to prevent bad legislation being

Re: House passes massive economic stimulus package

BS BS and more BS. The House Democrats wrote this bill by themselves, then they negotiated the bill with Senate Democrats by themselves, leaving out public disclosure until the last possible second. As for why people are upset about it, The One promised a new era of openness, transparency, and bi

Re: House passes massive economic stimulus package

> RoMunn wrote: > > sure, now that they PASSED IT, they have made it available. turds. > Every version has been there the whole time. If you wanted to read them, you could've at any time. The final bill is just another iteration. I'm not sure what the concern here is. It's like saying that be

Re: House passes massive economic stimulus package

We're still missing press releases on the White House Web site. I think they are there, but they're transparent. On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > Anybody know who keeps whining about not seeing this bill? It's right here: > > http://appropriations.house.gov/ > > also redi

Re: House passes massive economic stimulus package

On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 5:33 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > sure, now that they PASSED IT, they have made it available. turds. The Turds are only on the odd numbered pages. -Cameron ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most imp

Re: House passes massive economic stimulus package

sure, now that they PASSED IT, they have made it available. turds. On 2/13/09, Gruss Gott wrote: > >> Hat wrote: >> >>> Nobody read it yet they voted for it. >>> >>> That's is change! >> > > Anybody know who keeps whining about not seeing this bill? It's right here: > > http://appropriations.ho

Re: House passes massive economic stimulus package

> Hat wrote: > >> Nobody read it yet they voted for it. >> >> That's is change! > Anybody know who keeps whining about not seeing this bill? It's right here: http://appropriations.house.gov/ also redirected from http://house.gov/appropriations

Re: House passes massive economic stimulus package

> Nobody read it yet they voted for it. > > That's is change! Sadly, it's not. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;294

Re: House passes massive economic stimulus package

Nobody read it yet they voted for it. That's is change! On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Erika L. Walker wrote: > > WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- The House of Representatives approved a > sprawling, $787 billion stimulus package backed by President Barack Obama on > Friday, handing the new pres

RE: House passes massive economic stimulus package

Not going to help stimulate the California economy... The $400 indv / $800 family tax cut will go to the new taxes that are going to be passed in California. $.12 tax per gallon of gas State sales tax up 1% 5% surcharge on state income tax Vehicle registration doubles -Original Message---

Re: House passes massive economic stimulus package

> WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- The House of Representatives approved a > sprawling, $787 billion stimulus package backed by President Barack Obama on > Friday, handing the new president a key victory on his top economic > priority. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123326587231330357.html - Interest

Re: House approves massive bailout bill!

maybe so... undecided on the subject. Have not had time to really get into new analysis on the topic. For Pelosi and Reid, I am going on previous behavior -- for example caving on offshore drillign to get a budget passed. Much good that budget is doing us now, by the way. On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 11

Re: House approves massive bailout bill!

On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 10:18 AM, Dana wrote: > Obama -- not sure. He may > have been doing somethign backstage, not clear to me at this point. > Reid and Pelosi however are the Neville Chamberlains of our time. ROTFL, are you serious? You think Reid and Pelosi are wimps and cavers, and yet you

Re: House approves massive bailout bill!

come to think of it -- the word is feudalism. On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > no see, if you do that you will still get screwed. This is not a > bailout for you, seriously. If you only own one property, you are not > too big to fail. If you are not a multinationa

Re: House approves massive bailout bill!

no see, if you do that you will still get screwed. This is not a bailout for you, seriously. If you only own one property, you are not too big to fail. If you are not a multinational, you are not too big too fail. We now have a few favored businesses that will be bailed out no matter what and then

Re: House approves massive bailout bill!

because they are idiots. Because they were told that worse would happen if they did not, and they caved. Because when it comes to finance they trust "experts." I am positive that is what is up with Reid and Pelosi. The rest of the house was bought off with one thing or another -- sometimes a very

Re: House approves massive bailout bill!

> Yeah, I mean it's completely bailing out banks, hedge funds, and other > in financial services while home owners - at least thus far - get > nothing. Overheard last night on the the "The Big Story at 6" on KIRO radio in Seattle: The guest, a financial analyst whose name I missed, proclaimed tha

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Dana, if that were even a little bit true, why would Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Barack Obama and the rest of the Democratic leadership support it? On Sat, Oct 4, 2008 at 8:49 AM, Dana wrote: > the word we are looking for here is "swindle." > > As in, we the Bushites have so blatantly lied and chea

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> Dana wrote: > the word we are looking for here is "swindle." > Yeah, I mean it's completely bailing out banks, hedge funds, and other in financial services while home owners - at least thus far - get nothing. I'm still shocked at reading this in a movie review: "I am writing during days of eco

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the word we are looking for here is "swindle." As in, we the Bushites have so blatantly lied and cheated that we have no hope of ever being taken seriously or even ever working again. Give us our golden parachutes or Bad Things Could Happen. The fact that they threw the population a few crumbs (m

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> Dana wrote: > not it is not actually. If it were socialism, we would be getting some too. > Touche, my lady, touche. ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http

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not it is not actually. If it were socialism, we would be getting some too. On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 8:31 PM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> RoMunn wrote: >> because without a bailout, the market could drop thousands of points >> lower with no prospect of a quick turn around. that would le

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Guys, people are saying the recession this time will last about 4 years or so in the US :-\ Have you heard similar financial talk over there? ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date

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Here's quite the wonky analysis for you. It goes into some depth on how much the bailout might cost, how to price the securities and what the risks are in a market that might see declining home valuations. It is pretty dense with economic jargon though and therefore a bit difficult for me to follow

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>Judah wrote: > Maureen said that the bill specifically said mortgage-backed > securities, not mortgage-related securities when I asked about it. It > was my understanding then that they could only buy mortgages and the > current value of mortgages held is in the neighborhood of 11 trillion. > Less

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