RE: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-26 Thread Eric Roberts
] Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 1:55 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news Many of the sites I've built are based on the UTC adjusted to the users locale. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > &

RE: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-26 Thread Eric Roberts
That is why they would label it with the time zone...so you do have a context. -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 1:43 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news Wouldn't you want to know whe

RE: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-26 Thread Eric Roberts
Now there is something we can agree on Jerry. Eric -Original Message- From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:critic...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 1:34 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news "I do not have a problem with Fox News or any other

Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-26 Thread Medic
ent: Monday, July 26, 2010 1:22 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news > > > You can detect (often) the local time in the browser and convert a UTC > (or EST or whatever) datetime to what is local to the visitor. The > reason I suspect that t

Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-26 Thread Sam
Wouldn't you want to know when the post was made relative to your time? On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > I know you can, but isn't it normal to use a single timezone on a website > rather than the user's timezone?  I think that would be a standard practice > so that the t

RE: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-26 Thread Eric Roberts
riginal Message- From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 1:22 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news You can detect (often) the local time in the browser and convert a UTC (or EST or whatever) datetime to what is local

Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-26 Thread Jerry Barnes
"I do not have a problem with Fox News or any other news media, as I do not believe everything I hear and read" Good for you. I am with you 100% on this. As far as biased media, I wouldn't give a damn if they would announce their bias up front. What irritates me is the claim of unbiased report

Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-26 Thread Judah McAuley
You can detect (often) the local time in the browser and convert a UTC (or EST or whatever) datetime to what is local to the visitor. The reason I suspect that that might be happening is that the two times that were being disputed (6:22 and 3:22) are exactly 3 hours apart. Sam, who is on the East

Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-26 Thread Sam
Like I said, I like that she's learned from her hatred. Now if she can just finish the lesson. “He’d Like To Get Us Stuck Back In The Time Of Slavery” isn't a good start. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 1:36 PM, G Money wrote: > > She's saying that a mistake from her past has taught her a lot about the

Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-26 Thread G Money
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Sam wrote: > > So what is she saying, some of my best friends are white > She's saying that a mistake from her past has taught her a lot about the present and future. You so perfect that you are not willing to grant her a story about a mistake from her past?

Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-26 Thread Sam
Stumped are you? On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > You are truly clueless Sam... > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272

RE: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-26 Thread Eric Roberts
You are truly clueless Sam... -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 12:23 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > When you see the entir

Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-26 Thread Sam
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > When you see the entire clip, first of all you see that this happened 27 > years ago and you also see that she realized that she was wrong and changed > her decision and helped the white farmer anyway... Because he was poor. She wouldn't

RE: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-26 Thread Eric Roberts
: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 12:00 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news He posted what he had. What changed when you saw the entire clip? On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > It's a smear

RE: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-26 Thread Eric Roberts
-community Subject: Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news I guess everyone but you knows he didn't doctor it. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > When Briebart decides to stop doctoring the videos they

Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-26 Thread Sam
He posted what he had. What changed when you saw the entire clip? On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 12:51 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > It's a smear because he mislead people by only posting part of the clip > instead of the whole story.  It is called being dishonest.  Breitbart is the > king of dishonest.

RE: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-26 Thread Eric Roberts
bject: Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news Why is the Foxnews.com story between 11:18 a.m.*: Breitbart posts Sherrod video, calls her "racist," 12:13 p.m.: Hoft runs with Breitbart video without a timestamp? We just established the first post was 6:22pm Why is it called the

Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-26 Thread Sam
Why not change your computers clock and see? On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Isn't Fox on EST when they post things (just like CNN and MSNBC)?  The > website isn't going to show your local time...it's going to show either the > server's local time or the site's set loca

Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-26 Thread Sam
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 12:08 PM, trish simon wrote: > > Sam, > > You make me laugh...I'm not American...that's funny. You're an alias for Larry? > I do not have a problem with Fox News or any other news media, as I do > not believe everything I hear and read (that includes Rush to judgment > L

RE: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-26 Thread Eric Roberts
s on the West Coast...the site would display the same time for posts...also...these screen shots weren't taken by either of them. -Original Message- From: Judah McAuley [mailto:ju...@wiredotter.com] Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 11:36 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Maddow calls out ORe

Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-26 Thread trish simon
Sam, You make me laugh...I'm not American...that's funny. I do not have a problem with Fox News or any other news media, as I do not believe everything I hear and read (that includes Rush to judgment Limbaugh, even when he is not hyped up on drugs). Brietbart has a right to do whatever he wants,

Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-26 Thread Sam
I guess everyone but you knows he didn't doctor it. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > When Briebart decides to stop doctoring the videos they put online. > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now!

Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-26 Thread Larry C. Lyons
you are so full of it its not even funny any more. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Sam wrote: > > We know you agree with everything Sherrod said about whites. > You love to claim whites in America are racists. But you're not > American, you're better than those accidental birth idiots aren't y

Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-26 Thread Larry C. Lyons
When Briebart decides to stop doctoring the videos they put online. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Sam wrote: > > I'll give her a break. Will you give Briebart and Foxnews a break? > > > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 10:13 AM, trish simon wrote: >> >> Despite the horrible things that happened to h

Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-26 Thread Sam
We know you agree with everything Sherrod said about whites. You love to claim whites in America are racists. But you're not American, you're better than those accidental birth idiots aren't you? On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > If its not on Briebart, World news net

Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-26 Thread Sam
I'll give her a break. Will you give Briebart and Foxnews a break? On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 10:13 AM, trish simon wrote: > > Despite the horrible things that happened to her in her past because > of  racism, she decided to do the right thing. She helped the farmer > because it was the right thin

Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-26 Thread Larry C. Lyons
If its not on Briebart, World news net or ranted on by beck or rush limpbag then he doesn't see it, doesn't read it and has temper tantrums if you doubt him. In other words don't expect much from him. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 10:13 AM, trish simon wrote: > > Despite the horrible things that happ

Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-26 Thread trish simon
Despite the horrible things that happened to her in her past because of racism, she decided to do the right thing. She helped the farmer because it was the right thing to do. Sam, can you give this woman a break and SOME credit? Have you listened to her entire story? On 7/26/10, Sam wrote: >

Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-26 Thread Sam
Why is the Foxnews.com story between 11:18 a.m.*: Breitbart posts Sherrod video, calls her "racist," 12:13 p.m.: Hoft runs with Breitbart video without a timestamp? We just established the first post was 6:22pm Why is it called the "Sherrod smear" Sherrod did say she was judging him because of c

Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-25 Thread Judah McAuley
Here, btw, is the Media Matters timeline on what happened when for those who care: http://mediamatters.org/research/201007220004 On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 9:35 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > Are those time stamps possibly showing up local time? Sam is east > coast, if I recall, and Maureen is west co

Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-25 Thread Judah McAuley
Are those time stamps possibly showing up local time? Sam is east coast, if I recall, and Maureen is west coast. That would explain the difference between 6:22 PM and 3:22 PM On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 8:32 PM, Maureen wrote: > > This is a direct copy and paste from > http://www.foxnews.com/politic

Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-25 Thread Sam
Your on left coast. Come to the right coast and read it. It says 6:22 PM Or set your computer to Eastern Time and reload. Shees. On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Maureen wrote: > > This is a direct copy and paste from > http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/19/clip-shows-usda-official-admitt

Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-25 Thread Maureen
This is a direct copy and paste from http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/19/clip-shows-usda-official-admitting-withheld-help-white-farmer/#commenting when posts are sorted by the oldest first. Monday, July 19, 2010 at 3:22 PM and a screen capture of same: http://vonspace.com/stuff/foxnewsco

Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-25 Thread Sam
First post: What a nice person. Monday, July 19, 2010 at 6:22 PM On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Maureen wrote: > > I find it interesting that the story shown in the link you posted > shows an image from Foxnews.com that has a July 19 date  now has July > 20 published date on their website,

RE: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-25 Thread Eric Roberts
Makes it kinda hard to have been posted at 6pm if there is a comment at 3:22, huh? -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 4:29 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news I find it interesting that

RE: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-25 Thread Eric Roberts
Not according to several other sites...including the one I posted. Fox News had it up then took it down shortly after Brietbart posted it. -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 2:45 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Maddow calls out

Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-25 Thread Maureen
I find it interesting that the story shown in the link you posted shows an image from Foxnews.com that has a July 19 date now has July 20 published date on their website, although it still has comments dated July 19 - with the first one being posted at 3:22 PM. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/20

Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-25 Thread Sam
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 3:23 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > It also states that shortly after Breitbart posted it, foxnews.com had the > video on their site, which has since been removed. But she lied as she always does. Foxnews.com didn't post it until 6pmish > Doesn't she too, admit when she get

RE: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-25 Thread Eric Roberts
It's run by Fox...and the topics would be seeded by Fox. -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 2:43 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news Isn't foxnation a blog or something? On S

Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-25 Thread Sam
Isn't foxnation a blog or something? On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > BTW...Foxnation.com posted the video at 1:49 pm...so to say Fox didn't even > mention it until 8pm is an outright lie. > > http://readersupportednews.org/off-site-opinion-section/71-71/2500-timeline- >

RE: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-24 Thread Eric Roberts
It also states that shortly after Breitbart posted it, foxnews.com had the video on their site, which has since been removed. -Original Message- From: denstar [mailto:valliants...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 3:26 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on

RE: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-24 Thread Eric Roberts
iants...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 3:26 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news Doesn't she too, admit when she gets it wrong? I know some people see that as weakness, but they're weird. :) :den "echo" uno -- The development of

Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-24 Thread denstar
Doesn't she too, admit when she gets it wrong? I know some people see that as weakness, but they're weird. :) :den "echo" uno -- The development of civilization and industry in general has always shown itself so active in the destruction of forests that everything that has been done for their

Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-23 Thread Sam
I did that yesterday. Check the thread On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > And please show all of this false info Sam...we await with baited breath... > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://

RE: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-23 Thread Eric Roberts
And please show all of this false info Sam...we await with baited breath... -Original Message- From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 9:45 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news Didn't we cover this yesterday wh

Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-23 Thread Jerry Barnes
Rachel Maddow? That's rich. J - The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. I think myself that we have more machinery of government than is necessary, too many parasites living on the labor of the industrious. - Tho

Re: Maddow calls out OReilly on fabricated news

2010-07-23 Thread Sam
Didn't we cover this yesterday when it was determined Maddow was the one with all the false information? I guess the hope is to get him to talk about her so people will know she exists and watch her. I can't. On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Vivec wrote: > > http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010