I am not being anal, I am being realistic. Nothing in that article would
lead any reasonable person to think that Papa John's, as a company, is/was
'crashing and burning'.
Hell, I am not even sure I buy that their 'brand perception' changed as
much as the article claimed.
I had not even heard ab
You are correct. The 80% jump in stock price is very misleading. I should
have mentioned they had one slow sales week in February. Big picture and
all that.
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On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
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> Despite what Sam claims, the Motley Fool disagrees:
>
> http://www.fool.com/
Now you're just being anal
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On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
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> Just because _you_ took 'crash and burn' out of that, does not mean that is
> what it stated.
>
> I am not sure how a company can 'crash and burn' based on, what seems to
> be, some kind of marketing poll.
>
Despite what Sam claims, the Motley Fool disagrees:
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/02/27/why-papa-johns-shares-got-burned.aspx
On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 8:48 AM, Scott Stroz wrote:
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> Just because _you_ took 'crash and burn' out of that, does not mean that is
> what it stated.
>
>
Just because _you_ took 'crash and burn' out of that, does not mean that is
what it stated.
I am not sure how a company can 'crash and burn' based on, what seems to
be, some kind of marketing poll.
I agree' I would not consider papa John's to be 'casual dining'... Hell' it
barely qualifies as fo
They call people and ask them what they think
Ooops:
http://www.thestreet.com/story/11811195/1/papa-johns-releases-yougov-statement-clarifying-misleading-buzzindex-score.html
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On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 9:24 PM, Maureen wrote:
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> It is usually done by polls or focus groups.
>
> On Fri, Jul 19
It is usually done by polls or focus groups.
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
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> It did not say the company was 'crashing and burning' it said 'brand
> perception' had dropped.
>
> Does anyone know how you quantify 'brand perception'?
It said: "...has plummeted from a high of 32 on election day, to a
remarkably low score of 4 among adults who have eaten at causal dining
restaurants during the past month."
To me that's crash and burn.
Something I just noticed, they compared it to "causal dining restaurants"
but Papa John's is
It did not say the company was 'crashing and burning' it said 'brand
perception' had dropped.
Does anyone know how you quantify 'brand perception'?
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 7:39 PM, Sam wrote:
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> It's rubbish because earnings went up 80% while the poll stated the company
> is crashing and bur
[mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 3:27 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Massive backlash against companies who dodge healthcare
>
>
> You shouldn't eat at PapaJohns because their food taste like shit, not
> because of healthcare issues.
>
&g
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Maureen wrote:
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> The phone poll is measuring consumer opinion.
And it obviously way off
> The link Sam posted was
> discussing stock prices. He's conflating the two, and claiming an 80%
> increase in consumer spending.
I never said that. If a boycott was
lto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 3:27 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Massive backlash against companies who dodge healthcare
You shouldn't eat at PapaJohns because their food taste like shit, not
because of healthcare issues.
On another note, I like how you blame them fo
The phone poll is measuring consumer opinion. The link Sam posted was
discussing stock prices. He's conflating the two, and claiming an 80%
increase in consumer spending. There was actually a 6% increase in
revenue driven by a marketing payment from Papa John suppliers. There
was no increase i
It's rubbish because earnings went up 80% while the poll stated the company
is crashing and burning. You need to start reading these messages. What was
that about reading a comment with the intent to refute it before even
knowing what it's about?
.
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On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 7:11 PM, Scott St
Right...this phone poll is rubbish because the results don't match your
opinion.
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Sam wrote:
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> No. This poll was the exact opposite of the truth. But if you're implying
> one crap poll makes them all worthless than so be it.
>
> .
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at
not shop there by writing letters to them
> > periodically.
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > -Original Message-----
> > From: Jerry Milo Johnson [mailto:jmi...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 12:36 PM
> > To: cf-community
> > Subject: Re: Mas
onize as a result of their political stances and I
> let them know why I do not shop there by writing letters to them
> periodically.
>
> Eric
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jerry Milo Johnson [mailto:jmi...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 12:36 PM
> To: cf-
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Eric Roberts wrote:
> I have a long list of places I do not patronize as a result of their
> political stances and I let them know why I do not shop there by writing
> letters to them
> periodically.
Sounds complicated.
-Cameron
...
tances and I
let them know why I do not shop there by writing letters to them
periodically.
Eric
-Original Message-
From: Jerry Milo Johnson [mailto:jmi...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 12:36 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Massive backlash against companies who dodge healthcar
No. This poll was the exact opposite of the truth. But if you're implying
one crap poll makes them all worthless than so be it.
.
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
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> Hahah'idiot' phone poll' You mean like the 2.5 year old one you
> used earlier today to try and prove s
Speaking of youngsters, this is one of my favorite jokes.
http://www.anvari.org/shortjoke/Funny_Jokes/12140_little-puppies-one-day-while-bill-clinton-was-doing-his-morning-jogging-he-noticed-a-little-boy-standing-outside-the-white-house-gates.html
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 3:27 PM, Cameron Child
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 3:12 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
> Hahah'idiot' phone poll' You mean like the 2.5 year old one you
> used earlier today to try and prove some point in another thread?
>
He quoted a poll conducted by two and a half year olds? Not surprised.
-Cameron
...
Hahah'idiot' phone poll' You mean like the 2.5 year old one you
used earlier today to try and prove some point in another thread?
You make me laugh, Sam.
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Sam wrote:
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> Haha that's funny as hell.
>
> According to some idiot phone poll:
> Papa Johns had go
Haha that's funny as hell.
According to some idiot phone poll:
Papa Johns had good reason for concern as the pizza chains brand identity
has plummeted from a high of 32 on election day, to a remarkably low score
of 4 among adults who have eaten at causal dining restaurants during the
past month
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Vivec wrote:
> Three cheers for "the market"!
Most of this article is dedicated to some popularity index and not real
market effects. The only mention of actual markets was Darden, who wasn't
even sure that's what was at fault.
That's not to say there was or wa
Agreed. This is how I am handling most of my purchasing decisions on
commodities, where they is little to no price or quality difference between
options.
On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Vivec wrote:
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> Companies whose CEOs cut working hours, made staff part time and
> employed other mercenar
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