Heh. Awsome. Took the word right out of my mouth Adam.
And +1 for the TOW and Dragon. And now we have the Javalin. True fire and
forget portable anti-armor weapon. Too bad we can't use them here now
though, what with the war winding down and such.
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 5:44 PM, Adam Churvis <
> You know that thing was made specifically to kill people, right?
At very long distances, no less. Accurate out to (officially) 2,000 yards,
but there are those who can coax more of a song out of them.
Actually, it is also a very useful anti-materiel (note the spelling, Larry!)
weapon. Using a
>You could just sit naked on the porch playing a banjo and smiling
>invitingly.
After imagining that I need to wash my eyes out with lye.
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>Dude...its DC, some may take that as an invitation.
>
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> I've never fired a M107 (except the artillery piece which I
> know you don't have), but the Macmillan is impressive. its
> officially an anti-material weapon, but its definitely
> something you don't want to use for hunting. Unless that
> is you want to take home venison hamburger.
Hey, saves a
>Never like the Macmillan. Could have had one for a song a few years ago.
>
I've never fired a M107 (except the artillery piece which I know you don't
have), but the Macmillan is impressive. its officially an anti-material weapon,
but its definitely something you don't want to use for hunting.
You know that thing was made specifically to kill people, right?
Tell me..should civilians be able to own and operate their own
Tomahawk missiles
too if they have enough land available?
That gun has nothing to do with personal protection and safety.
2008/11/10 Adam Churvis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
Woohoo! Nekkid banjo-play'n!
While they may want to take a nifty gun, I'm thinking they'd want you
to keep your banjo right where you've got it.
+1 for psychological warfare
--
Men acquire a particular quality by constantly acting in a particular way.
Aristotle
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 5:04 PM,
10, 2008 11:13 PM
> > To: cf-community
> > Subject: Re: Obama coming after the guns
> >
> > Like that guy on Halloween?
>
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Sorry -- I must have missed something.
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President
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> -Original Message-
> From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 11:13 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Obama coming
I've always hated the wording of the 2nd Amendment. I know that Tim
thinks it and its history are clear as day, but that's not even
vaugely true. I just wish it had been written plain and simple. Ah
well.
That being said, I've always felt that the purpose of guns in the
hands of citizenry is to en
> They really have no idea what is out there in civilian hands legally do
> they?
No, Tim, I don't think they do, judging from their posts.
Folks, IIRC, there has been exactly one -- *ONE* -- violent crime committed
to date with a legally-obtained and lawfully-owned Class III weapon. It was
a cr
Like that guy on Halloween?
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 10:57 PM, Adam Churvis <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > As for needing assault weapons when "the shit hits the fan", what
> > exactly do you think is going to happen that would require you to use
> > an assault weapon on someone? Civil War?
>
>
> As for needing assault weapons when "the shit hits the fan", what
> exactly do you think is going to happen that would require you to use
> an assault weapon on someone? Civil War?
Home invasion. Very popular these days.
Respectfully,
Adam Phillip Churvis
President
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Civil war, terrorism, collapse of the federal government, riots, invasion
Fun
Lets not forget about fun.
> -Original Message-
> From: Maureen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 10:10 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Obama coming after the gu
They really have no idea what is out there in civilian hands legally do
they?
> -Original Message-
> From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 9:41 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: RE: Obama coming after the guns
>
> Yes
Yes.
And recoiless rifless, grenades, small amounts of explosives.
> -Original Message-
> From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 9:31 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Obama coming after the guns
>
> >I think individual
I don't know if the shooter was a law-abiding citizen before they
drove by and shot up the restaurant where my son and his lady were
dining, but they certainly were not law-abiding at the time of the
shooting. My information on gun usage comes from working on proposals
for anti-gang funding in Cal
gt; Subject: Re: Obama coming after the guns
>
> >That'd be the one.
>
> I think you'd get better results with a Macmillan TAC-50. Not as loud
> and it is more accurate and longer ranged. It currently holds the
> distance sniper record.
>
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 6:19 PM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At the same time there is a very restrictive ban on firearms in Canada. Yet
> in Canada there is nothing like the situation you have in Mexico. The
> violence is more the result of the illegal drug trade than any gun control
Yes, and much, much more.
Respectfully,
Adam Phillip Churvis
President
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> -Original Message-
> From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 9:31 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Obama coming after the gun
> this thing???
>
> http://www.inetres.com/gp/military/infantry/rifle/M107/M107_1.jpg
Yes, but with the rear monopod and a Leupold Mark 4 ER/T scope with a 30mm
tube integrated with a BORS ballistics computer (Adam smiles real big up at
Santa just like Ralphie in "Christmas Story").
This is most
>That'd be the one.
I think you'd get better results with a Macmillan TAC-50. Not as loud and it is
more accurate and longer ranged. It currently holds the distance sniper record.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMillan_TAC-50
>I think individuals should be able to have anything that common leg infantry
>have.
>
Does that include anti-tank weapons or grenade launchers? How about RPG's or 30
cal light machine guns or something like the M240 machine gun? Or the Sterling
sub-machine gun? Infantry can carry any and all o
Having fired quite a few weapons that used that caliber of round, (from the
C-1 infantry assault rifle, and the C-2 LMG and C-6 through to mini, all I can
say is I want one. I can finally do something about those squirrels in the back
yard.
>Here's an example.
>
>There are a number of people (
>Banning guns is a bad idea. Just look at Mexico. Guns are illegal in Mexico,
>yet there have been over 3,000 murders in Mexico this year alone over the
>drug trade, and most of those murders were committed with guns. If there is
>a profitable illegal trade, the people involved in it will get guns,
woo hoo adam!
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 11:32 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I gave his campaign money, I voted for him in the primary, and I voted for
> him in the election. I believe in this man and what he can do for America
> and Americans.
>
> I do not believe he will do anything to harm la
That'd be the one.
> -Original Message-
> From: Tony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 8:34 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Obama coming after the guns
>
> this thing???
>
> http://www.inetres.com/gp/militar
/me turns green with envy :)
> -Original Message-
> From: Adam Churvis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 8:26 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: RE: Obama coming after the guns
>
> I dread having to tool-up for my M107 when I get it. Have t
x27;d take your toys away if you did that.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Adam Phillip Churvis
> President
> Productivity Enhancement
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Skorp Croze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 8:04 PM
>> To: cf-c
away if you did that.
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Adam Phillip Churvis
President
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> -Original Message-
> From: Skorp Croze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 8:04 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Obama coming after the guns
>
&
Um, I think you might have that backward
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Adam Churvis <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Watch Woody Harrelson's
> documentary "Grass" for a real eye-opener.
>
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> What is the main cause of gun violence in the country?
>
> Drug prohibition, when you come right down to it, that's what it is.
> The
> drug war fuels the gun problems in America.
*TING!* *TING!* *TING!* *TING!* *TING!*
"Tim, you've won the living room suite, the trip for two to Acapulco, and
so do i. but mine are just round lead balls. not _quite_ 50 cal.
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 7:08 PM, Adam Churvis <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I make my own. Have for years now.
>
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> > From: Maureen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 7:57 PM
> > To: cf-community
> > Subject: Re: Obama coming after the guns
> >
> > Ok. I'lll oppose any gun control legislation if you support
> > an end to the war
t: Monday, November 10, 2008 7:57 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Obama coming after the guns
>
> Ok. I'lll oppose any gun control legislation if you support
> an end to the war on drugs.
>
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
&
LEGALISE IT
YESH!!!
@_@
2008/11/10 Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Ok. I'lll oppose any gun control legislation if you support an end to
> the war on drugs.
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ent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:11 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Obama coming after the guns
>
> I was adamantly opposed to gun control until the drive-by. I
> freely admit that it changed my thoughts about it, although
> not necessarily my position. The assault weapon
Ok. I'lll oppose any gun control legislation if you support an end to
the war on drugs.
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Look to the cause.
>
> What is the main cause of gun violence in the country?
>
> Drug prohibition, when you come right down to it, that's w
Willful destruction of public property - namely mountains. Or private
property to remove a car blocking their driveway. Or to threaten that boy
sniffing around your daughter. Or or or.
And isn't there an ordinance against noise pollution?
Now ask yourself: in what crime do you ever, ever see this
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> From: Judah McAuley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 7:21 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Obama coming after the guns
>
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Scott Stroz
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I t
ember 10, 2008 7:05 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Obama coming after the guns
>
> I think that a little common sense needs to be applied.
> Obvously, I woudl say we could draw the line qite a bit
> before nuclear weapons and most likely before rocket launchers.
>
&
ent: Monday, November 10, 2008 7:03 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Obama coming after the guns
>
> > Judah wrote:
> > This argument has some appeal but I don't know if it really
> holds up.
> > Chances are the average person who is going to be using a
>
I think individuals should be able to have anything that common leg infantry
have.
> -Original Message-
> From: Judah McAuley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:59 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Obama coming after the guns
>
> On M
y the 2nd amendment is considered so less important than the other
rights by so many people. It is the one that safeguards all the others.
> -Original Message-
> From: Judah McAuley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:54 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subje
Banning guns is a bad idea. Just look at Mexico. Guns are illegal in Mexico,
yet there have been over 3,000 murders in Mexico this year alone over the
drug trade, and most of those murders were committed with guns. If there is
a profitable illegal trade, the people involved in it will get guns,
gre
ask yourself: in what crime do you ever, ever see this person using this
weapon?
Respectfully,
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President
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> -Original Message-
> From: Judah McAuley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:59 PM
> To: cf-
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 4:04 PM, Scott Stroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think that a little common sense needs to be applied. Obvously, I woudl
> say we could draw the line qite a bit before nuclear weapons and most likely
> before rocket launchers.
I agree, but common sense can be a little di
I make my own. Have for years now.
Respectfully,
Adam Phillip Churvis
President
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> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:43 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Obama coming
> I was adamantly opposed to gun control until the drive-by. I freely
> admit that it changed my thoughts about it, although not necessarily
> my position.
Was the shooter a law-abiding citizen who follows the law, or someone who,
if a gun control law were enacted, would simply ignore it? If h
Dude...its DC, some may take that as an invitation.
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Charlie Griefer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Scott Stroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > One thing that concerns me (but does not keep me up at night) is that if
> > anythignlike
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 4:02 PM, Scott Stroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> One thing that concerns me (but does not keep me up at night) is that if
> anythignlike 9/11 or some other attac ever occured in DC, my area,
> Jefferson
> County, WV, could be a spot people would flee to. Given that circum
I think that a little common sense needs to be applied. Obvously, I woudl
say we could draw the line qite a bit before nuclear weapons and most likely
before rocket launchers.
Bottom line, even if we banned all guns, all it would do is stop the legal
purchase of guns. They would still be availabl
Well, your too late now. After Giuliani we don't have the same gun problems
in NY. Why did you think I wanted him for president. Get all the guns off
the streets...of Iraq. :)
(and no, that wasn't a request to get into Iraq on this thread. It was a
joke.)
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 6:59 PM, Charlie G
> Judah wrote:
> This argument has some appeal but I don't know if it really holds up.
> Chances are the average person who is going to be using a gun in self
> defense isn't out on patrol, waiting for an attack.
(1.) I don't think the Constititution provides for personal gun
ownership, but that's
One thing that concerns me (but does not keep me up at night) is that if
anythignlike 9/11 or some other attac ever occured in DC, my area, Jefferson
County, WV, could be a spot people would flee to. Given that circumstance,
seeign me with an assualt rifle on my fron porch or back deck may give
os
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yeah man, I was like 14 the first time I got shot at in NY :)
>
I've never been shot at. I feel like such a pussy right now :(
/me heads to Oakland wearing his NY Giants jersey.
--
I have failed as much as I have succeeded.
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Scott Stroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It could be argued that the 'arms' would encompass the firearm and the
> ammunition.
Out of curiosity, what are people's opinions about the limitations of
the 2nd Amendment? Few, if any, people seem to have problems with
hun
Yeah man, I was like 14 the first time I got shot at in NY :)
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 6:00 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Obama coming after the guns
>
> I wouldn't have
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Scott Stroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I used to feel the same way about assault rifles and I heard an argument
> that I really could not rebut. 'The bad guys don't care about gun control
> and what is legal or illegal. If they can get assault rifles, either
> l
It could be argued that the 'arms' would encompass the firearm and the
ammunition.
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 6:51 PM, Michael Dinowitz <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I wonder what the NRA's response to that would be. It allows us to keep
> guns
> but I don't see anywhere in the constitution about ke
I wonder what the NRA's response to that would be. It allows us to keep guns
but I don't see anywhere in the constitution about keeping bullets. :)
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 6:45 PM, Scott Stroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Oops...missed a 0..thanx Michael.
>
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Mich
Oops...missed a 0..thanx Michael.
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 6:42 PM, Michael Dinowitz <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> $5000, not $500
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdJGcrUk2eE
>
> But the point is a very good one.
>
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Scott Stroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Wh
$5000, not $500
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdJGcrUk2eE
But the point is a very good one.
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Scott Stroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> When I worked as a medic in inner cities and even spent some time working
> as
> a tactical medic with SWAT teams, I was shot at
When I worked as a medic in inner cities and even spent some time working as
a tactical medic with SWAT teams, I was shot at more times than I care to
remember.
Maybe my thoughts on gun control would be different if I or someone I knew
was hit during those episodes, but I doubt it.
I used to feel
I was adamantly opposed to gun control until the drive-by. I freely
admit that it changed my thoughts about it, although not necessarily
my position. The assault weapon ban seems to make good sense to me.
I can't get my brain around why anyone not in combat would need one.
I'm willing to listen
I wouldn't have an issue with this except one sentence comes off as having
deceptive language.
"They support closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country
childproof."
Looks to me like they're joining these two separate issues together and
implying (or stating as fact) that closing
Keep reading, it was widely reported at the time.
I linked a ny times story later.
> -Original Message-
> From: Maureen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 5:39 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Obama coming after the guns
>
> Site?
>
x27;m not going to change your mind here though.
> -Original Message-
> From: Maureen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 5:36 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Obama coming after the guns
>
> Maybe I'm just dense on this issue since m
Site?
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 10:40 AM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes it was a national disaster, and they disarmed the populace during the
> time they needed to be armed the most.
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Maybe I'm just dense on this issue since my son got shot at in a
drive-by a few years ago, but I fail to see anything on that page
that if enacted would take guns from law abiding citizens.
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 9:25 AM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> One day, all it took was one day for m
But I thought it was funny
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Judah McAuley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And by analogy you are a garden variety asshole, shitting on a thread
> that had actual intelligent discussion and education going on.
>
> Take your straw men elsewhere.
>
> Judah
>
> On Mon, No
like Waco and Ruby Ridge and then Katrina.
> -Original Message-
> From: Vivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 1:10 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Obama coming after the guns
>
> I..you know I haven't seen the legislation etc..b
And by analogy you are a garden variety asshole, shitting on a thread
that had actual intelligent discussion and education going on.
Take your straw men elsewhere.
Judah
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> All together now, say it with me, Obama is a garden
All together now, say it with me, Obama is a garden variety liberal. He
supports all the things that liberals support- taking guns away from
law-abiding citizens, raising taxes on productive people to pay
non-productive people, etc. etc. etc.
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 9:25 AM, Loathe wrote:
> On
ghts of
> > the
> > many. Freedom and liberty over safety and security.
> >
> > > -Original Message-----
> > > From: Vivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 2:46 PM
> > > To: cf-community
> > > Subject:
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm 100% sure that BOTH the 82nd and the Guard seized weapons. The guard
> was in the right, following state orders. They did what they were supposed
> to,
>
> The 82nd on the other hand is a title 10 federal military unit that
f the individual over the rights of
> the
> many. Freedom and liberty over safety and security.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Vivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 2:46 PM
> > To: cf-community
> > Subject: Re:
itatus (sp?)
> -Original Message-
> From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 2:59 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Obama coming after the guns
>
> > Mr. Compass, the police superintendent, said that after a
> week of near
>
> Mr. Compass, the police superintendent, said that after a week of near
anarchy in the city, no civilians in New Orleans will be allowed to carry
pistols, shotguns, or other firearms of any kind. "Only law enforcement are
allowed to have weapons," he said.
I assume this guy was kicked out of offi
So if peopel are looting, its OK for the government to take away privately
owned, legal property from those who are not? That sounds just peachy-keen
wonderful.
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 2:46 PM, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well...what was supposed to happen Otherwise??
>
> You have a lot o
eedom and liberty over safety and security.
> -Original Message-
> From: Vivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 2:46 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Obama coming after the guns
>
> Well...what was supposed to happen Otherwise??
>
?
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 1:52 PM
> > To: cf-community
> > Subject: Re: Obama coming after the guns
> >
> > Now _that_ I would love to see some links fo
Well...what was supposed to happen Otherwise??
You have a lot of people in a tense situation with guns in boxes ??
(maybe) , or they leave their guns at home..and their homes get looted
and the guns get stolen?
What was supposed to happen?
2008/11/10 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> This actually *DID* ha
ement
> -Original Message-
> From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 1:52 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Obama coming after the guns
>
> Now _that_ I would love to see some links for.
>
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 1:48 PM,
nday, November 10, 2008 2:24 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Obama coming after the guns
>
> They had license to conceal the guns on their persons?
> Wouldn't it have been a nightmare to have citizens with guns
> in lockboxes going to unknown and potentially unsafe
&g
> From: Vivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 2:24 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Obama coming after the guns
>
> They had license to conceal the guns on their persons?
> Wouldn't it have been a nightmare to have citizens with guns
>
They had license to conceal the guns on their persons?
Wouldn't it have been a nightmare to have citizens with guns in
lockboxes going to unknown and potentially unsafe shelters? What if
the shelters failed and the place was looted later, what would happen
to the guns?
What if the civilian left the
The police went door to door seizing legal guns during Katrina.
> -Original Message-
> From: G Money [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 1:45 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Obama coming after the guns
>
> How?
>
> If i was a ci
It was there on Nov 8th
http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:IcYml6GIwSAJ:change.gov/agenda/urbanpolicy/+http://change.gov/agenda/urbanpolicy/&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Jerry Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Did you follow the link from the a
nal Message-
> From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 1:52 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Obama coming after the guns
>
> Now _that_ I would love to see some links for.
>
> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Loath
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> From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 1:52 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Obama coming after the guns
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> Now _that_ I w
Now _that_ I would love to see some links for.
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The police went door to door seizing legal guns during Katrina.
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; Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 1:45 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Obama coming after the guns
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> Is this the section that you are all talking about?
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> "Address Gun Violence in Cities: As president, Barack Obama
> would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment, whi
Is this the section that you are all talking about?
"Address Gun Violence in Cities: As president, Barack Obama would
repeal the Tiahrt Amendment, which restricts the ability of local law
enforcement to access important gun trace information, and give police
officers across the nation the tools t
I plan on buying a handgun and rifle shortly. Not that I need either. I
just like having the option.
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> time they needed to be armed the most.
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> > -Original Message-
> > From: Vivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 1:39 PM
> > To: cf-community
> > Subject: Re: Obama coming after the guns
> >
> > Mmm..don&
Yes it was a national disaster, and they disarmed the populace during the
time they needed to be armed the most.
> -Original Message-
> From: Vivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 1:39 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: Obama coming after th
> They took it down over the weekend
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Hatton
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Hmm..there goes China and India's jump on the stem cell treatment
market I suppose.
You know as much as people like Obama, the rise of other countries was
more or less assured under the rule of people like Bush.
If Obama actually gets traction in the White House, a lot of those
other countries wil
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