ts decide to discontinue conventional
>treatments the disease may progress to the point that even conventional
>treatments are not going to help. Why take that risk?
>
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>From: Deanna Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:25 AM
>T
ts decide to discontinue conventional
>treatments the disease may progress to the point that even conventional
>treatments are not going to help. Why take that risk?
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Deanna Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:25 AM
>T
There's a big difference -- the patient in this case is able to speak for
himself and is not being disposed of because he is inconvenient. The civil
rights concerns are all in the other direction -- can the government compel him
to accept treatment if he does not want it, even if it is in his be
arents are judged to
be in neglect of their responsibilities.
Duane
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From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 2:16 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Schiavo II?
> Duane wrote:
> Why shouldn't a child be able to smoke and booze
&
I agree. I think the state should stay out of it for now, since the
parents and the child are in agreement.
Except...
If the kid dies, and the state judges it was actions or inactions by
the parents that caused the kid to die (or die early), then the
parents should be able to be prosecuted for ba
> Duane wrote:
> Why shouldn't a child be able to smoke and booze
> it up if the parents choose to allow it?
They can.
> My argument was in
> the case where a child has a life threatening condition, then the child's
> welfare is more important than the parental choice.
>
Who determines "life th
On 7/13/06, Duane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The same argument by your statement could be made for allowing parents to
> decide whether their kids can smoke cigarettes and drink booze before the
> age of 19 (21 in the US). Why shouldn't a child be able to smoke and booze
> it up if the parents
> What about letting kids eat ice cream and play PS2 all day? What
> about childhood sports where there is a high degree of injury, some of
> it fatal? How about childhood TV stars? They ALWAYS turn out bad.
> Doesn't that also endanger the child?
The same argument by your statement could be ma
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From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 1:09 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Schiavo II?
> Duane wrote:
> In this case we are talking about a child whose decision is presumably
> being made for him
Nope. In this case we'r
> Duane wrote:
> In this case we are talking about a child whose decision is presumably
> being made for him
Nope. In this case we're talking about a 16 year old who came to a
decision based on his own research and his parents are supporting that
decision.
So if your point is that the government
Couple of things to think about on this issue:
1. He's 16, not 6.
2. He's already gone through one round of chemo and has had a relapse.
3. According to the interviews he feels that another round of chemo is
going to "kill him".
4. From what I can read (my opinion here) his decision is not a
religo
> Duane wrote:
> At some point the welfare of the child is more important then parental
> choice. These people have made a choice that endangers the welfare of the
> child.
What about letting kids eat ice cream and play PS2 all day? What
about childhood sports where there is a high degree of inju
n determine whether a child is able to make their own decisions, that
is why there is a legal age of consent. In this case, IMHO, life trumps
parental beliefs.
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From: G Money [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 12:20 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re:
That really is what all of this boils down too. Either you belief "life
trumps all", or you don't. I personally do not.
On 7/13/06, Duane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> As for 7th day Adventists, to me it is a simple case of the child's
> welfare.
> If the child dies without the transfusion, then
ox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 11:40 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Schiavo II?
that is stepping way over the bounds of parental choice. Are we going
to require that the 7th day adventists receive blood transfusions from
now on? This is one of those situations where you
7;s is a very
> survivable disease but if the parents let the disease progress then it
> becomes very serious.
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: G Money [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:44 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Sch
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To: CF-Community
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Be careful what you are agreeing with. I think the kid should do chemo
too.but that aint my decision, and it sure as hell aint a courts
decision.
Today they are dec
> -Original Message-
> From: Deanna Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 9:25 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Schiavo II?
>
> This makes no sense. Every day parents decide to discontinue treatment
> for kids with serious can
what was
available even 10 years ago (according to my oncologist).
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Chemo killed my father-in-law. He would have lived at least another year if
Be careful what you are agreeing with. I think the kid should do chemo
too.but that aint my decision, and it sure as hell aint a courts
decision.
Today they are deciding what this kid should do, tomorrow it might be you.
On 7/13/06, Duane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Chemo can be pretty na
even conventional
treatments are not going to help. Why take that risk?
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This makes no sense. Every day parents decide to discontinue treatmen
Chemo killed my father-in-law. He would have lived at least another year if
he'd not started that stuff.
- Matt
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&
quot;as well as" not "instead of" chemotherapy.
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Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:09 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Schiavo II?
Chemo is such a nasty, nasty treatment option...I can certainly empathize
with anyone
Nope. What makes this different is the presence of a conservative activist
court (yep, that's what it is) that wants to meddle in the family's private
affairs to push it's own agenda.
On 7/13/06, Deanna Schneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This makes no sense. Every day parents decide to disco
This makes no sense. Every day parents decide to discontinue treatment
for kids with serious cancers. What makes this so different? Just the
fact that he's going with some alternate treatment option instead of
saying, "no more treatment, I'd prefer to just die?"
On 7/13/06, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROT
This one is tricky though because the person deciding they don't want the
treatment is a minor. I don't even want to begin to decide this one. On one
hand these parents really could be intelligent people and realize that the
chemo may be doing more harm then good, but on the other hand they coul
Chemo is such a nasty, nasty treatment option...I can certainly empathize
with anyone who makes a personal decision that they simply do not want to
put themselves through iteven if that means opting for some other
pointless foo-foo treatment that will most likely result in death.
On 7/13/06, G
wah wah wah those mean people questioned my right to kill my wife. WHat a
freaking whiner.
>Ugh, can we pull the plug on HIM?
>
>Seriously, who'd have any interest in reading this book? The entire saga
>already played out in public once..a rehashing of the minutae solely
>from his point of
Oh God, let's hope not. Even though I agree with him...i smell another Cindy
Sheehan brewing. Stretch that 15 minutes as far as you can, rail and
crusade, generally make an ass-spectacle of yourself.
The system worked, eventuallyso shut up and live in peace you weasel.
>> gMoney wrote:
>> S
> gMoney wrote:
> Seriously, who'd have any interest in reading this book? The entire saga
> already played out in public once..a rehashing of the minutae solely
> from his point of view...sounds excrutiatingly painful.
>
He's got a political action committee going too! He's going after Sen
F
Ugh, can we pull the plug on HIM?
Seriously, who'd have any interest in reading this book? The entire saga
already played out in public once..a rehashing of the minutae solely
from his point of view...sounds excrutiatingly painful.
>
> LOL - HhhhEEE' BAck
>
> He's got a
I am all for family rights! I just don't think this is a family rights case. I
think it's a civil rights case. But let's not... I have way too much to do, lol
;)
> Ah, go ahead and get it out. You pretty much know where I stand
> (family rights over gov't rights) and I'm always fascinated by yo
> Dana wrote:
> Poster child for beneath contempt. I don't want to say what I *really* think,
> or we'll hash it all out
> all over again ;)
Ah, go ahead and get it out. You pretty much know where I stand
(family rights over gov't rights) and I'm always fascinated by your
point of view. I'll st
Poster child for beneath contempt. I don't want to say what I *really* think,
or we'll hash it all out all over again ;)
Dana
>He's got a book coming out, and so have the parents. He says he
>invited both Gov Bush and Pres Bush to visit Terry with him, but they
>refused.
~~~
> Dana wrote:
> oh god.
>
LOL - HhhhEEE' BAck
He's got a book coming out, and so have the parents. He says he
invited both Gov Bush and Pres Bush to visit Terry with him, but they
refused.
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oh god.
>So, just because it was one of the most explosive issues on this list
>I thought I'd mention that Michael Schiavo is on the attack against
>politicians, etc and will be on MSNBC on the Countdown show which
>starts at 7pm Central
~~
> Why must it be only "the logic of many on the right"? I think that most
> people (right or left) would consider statements from a person suspect if
> there was a history of lying.
True, that dig at the right was more for Sam's benefit...please accept
my humblest apologies for not attacking the
The guy has a major medical breakthrough fro stroke patients and his
Congressman tells him he nominated him for a Nobel Prize. If my
Congressman nominated me I'd believe him. So because he was duped
everything he says or does is invalid?
What about Clinton? He outright lied. Does that mean everythi
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Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 3:08 PM
To: CF-Community
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> Fox News claimed he was nominated for a Nobel Prize but that's not
> technically accurate.
_He_ claimed he was nominated.
>From t
> Fox News claimed he was nominated for a Nobel Prize but that's not
> technically accurate.
_He_ claimed he was nominated.
>From the above referenced link:
"Hammesfahr* testified during an October 2002 court hearing on the
Schiavo case that his claim to be a Nobel nominee is based on a letter
wr
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I think the promise he kept was "I'll Kill you bitch" just before he
smothered her with a pillow. You know, after she said, "I'm lea
I think the promise he kept was "I'll Kill you bitch" just before he
smothered her with a pillow. You know, after she said, "I'm leaving
you", back in 1990 like the tombstone says?
On 6/21/05, Gruss Gott wrote:
>
> Because we don't disagree. I'm saying that neither you nor I know why
> he did it
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Fox News claimed he was nominated for a Nobel Prize but that's not
technically accurate. What's that have to do with the discredited
autopsy?
On 6/21/05, Matthew
> 1.) Why should it be insensitive to tell your wife you kept a promise
> you made to her even if you know her parents disagree? They should
> support you for being a good husband.
It's insensitive precisely because her parents disagreed. It's not
insensitive towards your wife, but it is towards
Fox News claimed he was nominated for a Nobel Prize but that's not
technically accurate. What's that have to do with the discredited
autopsy?
On 6/21/05, Matthew Small wrote:
> http://mediamatters.org/items/200503220009
>
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Disc
I totally agree. But hey, things like tombstones and funerals aren't
for the dead. Just like big weddings aren't for the couple getting
married.
-Kevin
On 6/21/05, Matthew Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The words on the gravestone aren't there for her, they're there for others
> to remember h
> Brian wrote:
> Making no assumptions or opinions as to the INTENT of the inscription, one
> can still say the RESULT is insensitive toward her parents.
1.) Why should it be insensitive to tell your wife you kept a promise
you made to her even if you know her parents disagree? They should
suppo
> -Original Message-
> From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 1:11 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Schiavo Gets In Last Dig
>
> >
> > Yes, but the fundamental flaw in this reasoning is that is makes the
> > assumption that
http://mediamatters.org/items/200503220009
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From: Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 1:16 PM
To: CF-Community
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Here we go again :)
http://newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/6/19/205259.shtml
Dr. Hammesfahr:
I have had a chance to look at Dr. Nelson's analysis of the brain
tissue, and essentially, as a clinician, these are my thoughts.
The autopsy results confirmed my opinion and Dr. Maxfield's opinions,
that
>
> Yes, but the fundamental flaw in this reasoning is that is makes the
> assumption that the person crafting the inscription on the grave stone
> has the same belief about life after death and/or about the purpose of
> the gravestone. It's entirely possible that the person responsible for
> the i
,
especially her parents.
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From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:38 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Schiavo Gets In Last Dig
> Matthew wr
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 10:55 AM
>> To: CF-Community
>> Subject: Re: Schiavo Gets In Last Dig
>>
>> > Matthew wrote:
>> > Yes, I do assume that she won't
> Matthew wrote:
> Gruss, there is such a concept of "Agree to disagree".
>
Because we don't disagree. I'm saying that neither you nor I know why
he did it and I'm 100% right. You're saying that you do know - he put
it there with bad intentions.
I appreciate your theory, but there are others th
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 10:56 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Schiavo Gets In Last Dig
>
> Perhaps there should be an initiation to join this list - we should all
> become "Ass B
> > Marlon wrote:
> > I think he showed restraint. If he hadn't, the inscription would have
> > read "I kept my promise, even though your parents battled me every bit
> > of the way, and the president's stupid ass brother and lots of
> > hypocritical legislators did their best to foil me. At leas
> -Original Message-
> From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 10:55 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Schiavo Gets In Last Dig
>
> > Matthew wrote:
> > Yes, I do assume that she won't be reading the words on her gr
Gruss, there is such a concept of "Agree to disagree".
Matthew Small
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Subject:
> Matthew wrote:
> Perhaps there should be an initiation to join this list - we should all
> become "Ass Brothers" and "Ass Sisters" to each other.
>
LOL! I think my wife may have a problem with me introducing you as my
"ass brother".
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> American City Business Journals
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 10:52 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Schiavo Gets In Last Dig
>
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> Matthew Small
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 10:52 AM
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>> ass brother
"Ass Brother", kind of like a "Blood Brother", only a little smellier,
greasier, and hairier.
Marlon, I think you're on to something
> Marlon wrote:
> I think he showed restraint. If he hadn't, the inscription would have
> read "I kept my promise, even though your parents battled me every bit
> of the way, and the president's stupid ass brother and lots of
> hypocritical legislators did their best to foil me. At least I love
>
> Matthew wrote:
> Yes, I do assume that she won't be reading the words on her gravestone. I
> am 100% sure that I am right. Therefore, the words must be for somebody
> else, and he already knows that he kept her promise, so... but that's my
> opinion, and I now think he's a jerk.
>
Then that
>> ass brother
"Ass Brother", kind of like a "Blood Brother", only a little smellier,
greasier, and hairier.
Marlon, I think you're on to something...
- Jim
Marlon Moyer wrote:
>I think he showed restraint. If he hadn't, the inscription would have
>read "I kept my promise, even though your
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> Matthew wrote:
> The words on the gravestone
I think he showed restraint. If he hadn't, the inscription would have
read "I kept my promise, even though your parents battled me every bit
of the way, and the president's stupid ass brother and lots of
hypocritical legislators did their best to foil me. At least I love
you"
On 6/21/05, Matthe
> Matthew wrote:
> The words on the gravestone aren't there for her, they're there for others
> to remember her by.
That's an incredibly presumptuous opinion - how do we know why he did
it? Could be for him, could be for her, could be for her parents,
could be for his family, could be for her fam
> Larry wrote:
> Which to me is a good idea. Its time to put this dead issue to rest.
>
I think the issues is newly born rather than dead. They are:
1.) Who the guardian of a incapacitated person and where do their
rights begin and end.
2.) What rights does marriage allocate?
3.) Do the court
. And I agreed
with his position on allowing her to die.
Matthew Small
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> Matthew wrote:
> I'm talking more about the date and the "I kept my promise" thing. I think
> I can accept the date as not-too-bad, but the "I kept my promise" thing is
> aimed solely at hurting the parents.
Why would you assume that? He went through a 15 battle where he
endured character disp
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> -Original Message-----
> From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 9:57 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Schiavo Gets In Last Dig
>
> They wanted to
I think this entire time he felt he was doing all this battling to "keep his
promise" So if that thought of mine is true then I do not see him as trying
to stab at the parents. Now if he was doing this battle all this time for
other reasons then perhaps it is a stab at them. Now that would in my
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They wanted to bury her in Florida, he wanted to inter her in his
family's plot in Pennsylvania. To some extent
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 9:48 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Schiavo Gets In Last Dig
>
> Given the sort of crap that they put him through, I would think that
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Given the sort of crap that they put him through, I would think that
he was remarkably re
>...he shows a remarkable lack of sensitivity
I thought so too but then again his ex parent in laws showed a
complete lack of sensibility for 10 years as well and a lack of
sensitivity.
Adam H
On 6/21/05, Matthew Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Although justified, he shows a remarkable l
Given the sort of crap that they put him through, I would think that
he was remarkably restrained.
larry
On 6/21/05, Matthew Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Although justified, he shows a remarkable lack of sensitivity for the
> situation.
>
>
> Matthew Small
> Web Developer
> American City
Although justified, he shows a remarkable lack of sensitivity for the
situation.
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To: CF-Commun
> Dana wrote:
> not really. Their point was that there are a number of people walking
> around who have more brain damage than that... the elderly in
> particular.
>
Let's face the facts. The Schiavo's maintained that:
1.) Michael Schiavo abused Terri and should therefore be exempt from
decidin
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> SStewart wrote:
> But it does deflate the parent's claim that she could&
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> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 04:53 pm
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Schiavo Autopsy Released
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>
> we *knew* that -- proves nothing, as the issues were clinical not
> physiological. Natural
> SStewart wrote:
> But it does deflate the parent's claim that she could've been rehabilitated.
>
And it also proves the danger of getting worked up by baseless
supposition - Mr. Schiavo was not an abuser. Those that claimed he
was should learn a lesson: there were never any facts to indicate h
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we *knew* that -- proves nothing, as the issues were clinical not
physiological. Naturally the husband is waving it around, but it&
we *knew* that -- proves nothing, as the issues were clinical not
physiological. Naturally the husband is waving it around, but it's
simply a reiteration of the same conclusion.
Dana
On 6/15/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Schiavo autopsy report backs husband
> Medical examiner says s
"Trickle down morality", I call it.
"Hey, the president can cover up a whole WAR, what's the big deal if I
tell the public the answer that they want to hear?"
Kevin Graeme wrote:
> Pfft. There will still be issues of the credibility of the coroner or
> the conclusions he reached or a coverup or.
Pfft. There will still be issues of the credibility of the coroner or
the conclusions he reached or a coverup or...
On 6/15/05, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think I am completely justified in saying to various people
>
> I told you so.
>
> That autopsy report validates almost all
I like the related fark.com headline:
"Schiavo's brain found to be half normal size at time of death, autopsy
reveals. Appearance with Bill O'Reilly set for Friday"
--- On Wednesday, June 15, 2005 11:38 AM, Gruss Gott scribed: ---
>
> Schiavo autopsy report backs husband
> Medical examiner says
The decision ultimately made in the case would STILL have been the correct
one, even if somehow all those doctors' would have turned out to have been
wrong.
It's like those annoying people at blackjack tables who correctly stay on
12-16 when the dealer is showing a bust card, then get upset whe
> Howie wrote:
> Wow - funny and scary at the same time...
>
> http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/3/17/162512/231
>
That's hilarious! WWJB! Too funny ...
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Wow - funny and scary at the same time...
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/3/17/162512/231
--- On Friday, April 08, 2005 12:34 PM, Ken Ketsdever scribed: ---
>
> My personal favorite is WWJB
>
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My personal favorite is WWJB
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From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 9:33 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Schiavo (Was: Man arrested at Best Buy for paying his bill)
WWSD?
(hint: inspired by WWJD?)
--- On Friday, April 08, 2005 11
LOL!
On Apr 8, 2005 11:32 AM, Howie Hamlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> WWSD?
>
> (hint: inspired by WWJD?)
>
> --- On Friday, April 08, 2005 11:52 AM, G scribed: ---
> >
> > You like threads about the impending insolvency of the United States
> > too :)
> >
> >>> Brian wrote:
> >>> Just kiddin.
WWSD?
(hint: inspired by WWJD?)
--- On Friday, April 08, 2005 11:52 AM, G scribed: ---
>
> You like threads about the impending insolvency of the United States
> too :)
>
>>> Brian wrote:
>>> Just kiddin.friday labotomies are on the house.
>>>
>>
>> DOH! Schiavo threads are my favorite!
> Brian wrote:
> You like threads about the impending insolvency of the United States too :)
>
Oh yeah! Thanks for reminding me! You the man ...
IMF warns on risk of 'permanent oil shock'
The world faces "a permanent oil shock" and will have to adjust to
sustained high prices in the next two
You like threads about the impending insolvency of the United States too :)
>> Brian wrote:
>> Just kiddin.friday labotomies are on the house.
>>
>
> DOH! Schiavo threads are my favorite! (can ya tell?)
>
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> Brian wrote:
> Just kiddin.friday labotomies are on the house.
>
DOH! Schiavo threads are my favorite! (can ya tell?)
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They are both important. The thing is that most of us know or know of
someone to whom such a process could apply.
Dana
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 14:36:12 -0600, Marlon Moyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nope, I'm saying that the world's problems won't be solved while we're
> all just protesting small
He *does.* Assuming of course that various accusations against him are
truthful. You are assuming they aren't, which is fair enough, but IF
in fact it is true that she wanted to move out, that she was an
overweight teenager that married the first man that tried to kiss her,
poor child, if it is tru
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