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2014-03-03 Thread Sam
I find it amazing how the radicalized left can't take such a simple "no-brainer" issue and motivate a nation into believing it's about the GOP hating gays. The reason for the bill is to protect folks from lawsuits. Basically, if a gay couple want's to get married in a church and the church says no

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2014-02-28 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
we are going to see a lot more of these laws over the next 24 months. the Republican strategy is to pass as many "anti-religious" protection laws as they can while they have majorities in most states. they believe they win if the laws are passed, and they win if the laws are shot down. they are

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2014-02-28 Thread Maureen
Freedom of association rights have nothing to do with businesses violating someone's civil rights because of religious claims. Title II of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 outlawed discrimination based on race, color, religion or national origin in hotels, motels, restaurants, theaters, and all other

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2014-02-28 Thread Eric Roberts
If you don't want to associate with people you don't like, then I suggest that you do not open your own business... -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 2:25 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Tea Party leader attacks

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2014-02-28 Thread Eric Roberts
ou wrap hate in religion does not make it any less hate. Eric -Original Message- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 1:52 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Tea Party leader attacks Jan Brewer for allowing "slavery" and penis cakes - Salon.

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2014-02-28 Thread Larry C. Lyons
If you don't want to play by those rules, you can always declare yourself a private club etc., and only sell your goods or services to your members. On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > > You do have that right. You can totally decide who you spend time with, or > associa

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2014-02-28 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
You do have that right. You can totally decide who you spend time with, or associated with. Or eat dinner with, or worship with, or play Scrabble with. But if you are engaged in commerce, which is regulated by the government, and provide a public service that is deemed "essential" by those regula

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2014-02-28 Thread LRS Scout
You should not be discriminated against by the government. Individuals should be able to freely associate with people of their choice. Freedom of association was important enough to make the bill of rights. Like most of these things if I have the right to choose who to spend time with, don't I

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2014-02-28 Thread GMoney
No, it is not a federally protected class. A protected does not seem insane to me if you draw it up based on genetics: If you are born with it, you should not be discriminated because of it...period...since you have it through absolutely no fault of your own. That makes perfect sense to me. On

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2014-02-28 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
It makes sense to me. If you dislike or hate someone for something they were born with, you are an asshole. Period. Now there may not be much society can do to you for being that kind of asshole, but you should be called for it. And if you provide an essential service (the only grocery store i

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2014-02-28 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
doesnt make it right, but makes it "currently legal" On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 3:03 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > > Federal judges also said slavery was cool for years, they also said > corporations are people. > > Just because a federal judge writes a decision doesn't make it right. > > > On

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2014-02-28 Thread LRS Scout
Also is sexual orientation a protected class here? I know it is in some states, but it is not federally, right? The whole idea of a protected class is insane to me. On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > > No, if your business is open to the public, your business has to

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2014-02-28 Thread LRS Scout
Federal judges also said slavery was cool for years, they also said corporations are people. Just because a federal judge writes a decision doesn't make it right. On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > > No, if your business is open to the public, your business ha

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2014-02-28 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
No, if your business is open to the public, your business has to be open to all people OF A PROTECTED CLASS. There are plenty of legitimate reasons to turn someone down for business. But not solely because they are part of that class. What those protected classes are differs from state-to-state,

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2014-02-28 Thread LRS Scout
That's crap. So if I'm in let's say a klan sheet I can go to the hip hop bar down the street and they should have to serve me? Private property is just that, private, it's mine. I don't care what ape shit nuts policies someone wants on their own property. If it's too obnoxious they won't exist

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2014-02-28 Thread Larry C. Lyons
If your business is open to the public you have to serve all the public. End of story. Mind you you can always say you're too busy to take new orders at the present time. On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 2:45 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: > > While the headline emphasizes his comments about homosexuals,

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2014-02-28 Thread Larry C. Lyons
My cousin Terry's cake was your typical boring wedding cake with 2 male toppers. But then again that was 2005. Things were just so passe then. On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 2:43 PM, GMoney wrote: > > Penis cakes...bwahahah. > > I get to go to my first gay wedding in a few weeks, female co-worker of m

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2014-02-28 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
While the headline emphasizes his comments about homosexuals, this question is one that I thought about as well: "Would they force a Jewish photographer to work a Klan or Nazi event? How about forcing a Muslim caterer to work a pork barbeque [sic] dinner?" A slight correction to his assertion in

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2014-02-28 Thread GMoney
Penis cakes...bwahahah. I get to go to my first gay wedding in a few weeks, female co-worker of my wife. If there is a rainbow God up there, PLEASE let their cake be a giant vagina! On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 1:18 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > > http://www.salon.com/2014/02/27/tea_party_leader_at