Re: WSJ - the coming liberal supermajority

2008-10-19 Thread Sam
Talk about irony. Judah you need to dial it up a bit if you want to talk with adults. On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 11:11 PM, Judah McAuley > He said he opposes the change to the organizing rules. He did not call > Union organizers "thugs" which is what I took you to task for. That > was stupid and you

Re: WSJ - the coming liberal supermajority

2008-10-19 Thread Larry Lyons
>I hate unions more than any other institution man has created. > >I have _never_ seen anything but evil, greed, and sloth come from unions. Yes definately evil stuff like the 40 hour weekpensions, health insurance, occupational safety laws, anti-discrimination laws and regulations. Hell even th

Re: WSJ - the coming liberal supermajority

2008-10-19 Thread denstar
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 7:51 PM, Robert Munn wrote: > That is already being done. Wow, you like something Bush did! Don't be a dick. :) Judah already praised Bush where a pure hater wouldn't-- please don't put him in that box you've got there. Not everyone is all polarized like you 'n me,

Re: WSJ - the coming liberal supermajority

2008-10-18 Thread Judah McAuley
> > It is undemocratic and horrible, but don't take my word for it, here is > Democratic hero and working class champion George McGovern talking about it: He said he opposes the change to the organizing rules. He did not call Union organizers "thugs" which is what I took you to task for. That was

Re: WSJ - the coming liberal supermajority

2008-10-18 Thread Gruss Gott
> RoMunn wrote: > Here is what you are voting for: > Mmm, I think it's closer - no exactly - what David Brooks describes: -- He doesn't have F.D.R.'s joyful nature or Reagan's happy outlook, but he is analytical. That's why this William Ayers business doesn't stick. He may be liberal, but he is n

Re: WSJ - the coming liberal supermajority

2008-10-18 Thread Robert Munn
I can speak for myself, thank you. I subscribe to the notion of care and consideration in changing the law. On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 7:42 PM, Dana wrote: > he is familar but suscibes to the talking point that you can't just > have people suing over stuff like that. Bad for bidness as Molly Ivins

Re: WSJ - the coming liberal supermajority

2008-10-18 Thread Robert Munn
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Judah wrote: > > > So the thugs from the local union office can come to everyone houses and > > tell them to sign the union card "or else"? And if you don't think that > is > > exactly what is going to happen, you are fooling yourself. > > "Thugs"? Thugs? Bite me.

Re: WSJ - the coming liberal supermajority

2008-10-18 Thread Dana
he is familar but suscibes to the talking point that you can't just have people suing over stuff like that. Bad for bidness as Molly Ivins used to say. > Are you familiar with the Supreme Court case that brought this up? The > case in question was where a women didn't find out for some years on >

Re: WSJ - the coming liberal supermajority

2008-10-18 Thread Judah McAuley
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 6:51 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Union card check > > > So the thugs from the local union office can come to everyone houses and > tell them to sign the union card "or else"? And if you don't think that is > exactly what is going to happen, you are fooling

Re: WSJ - the coming liberal supermajority

2008-10-18 Thread Robert Munn
I actually agree that unions played an important role in the creation of basic workers' rights in the early 20th century, but they overplayed their hand badly and have left once great American giants like General Motors fetid corpses. On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 6:44 PM, Jerry wrote: > I hate unions

Re: WSJ - the coming liberal supermajority

2008-10-18 Thread Robert Munn
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Judah wrote: > Union card check So the thugs from the local union office can come to everyone houses and tell them to sign the union card "or else"? And if you don't think that is exactly what is going to happen, you are fooling yourself. Card check is total

Re: WSJ - the coming liberal supermajority

2008-10-18 Thread Jerry Johnson
I hate unions more than any other institution man has created. I have _never_ seen anything but evil, greed, and sloth come from unions. On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Judah McAuley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've got nothing particularly for or against trial lawyers. Unions are > great tho

Re: WSJ - the coming liberal supermajority

2008-10-18 Thread Larry Lyons
>That's exactly what I'm voting for, yeah. > >Prescript drug price controls Better that than the current multi-billion giveaway to big pharma that the shrubbery and its lapdog congress enacted. >Union card check >Representation for District of Columbia Do you believe in representation in congre

Re: WSJ - the coming liberal supermajority

2008-10-18 Thread Judah McAuley
I've got nothing particularly for or against trial lawyers. Unions are great though. Some of the implementations of unions can be less than what I'd hope for, but like democracy, I think they are a fundamentally good idea and we just need to work to make them the best we can. Judah On Sat, Oct 18

RE: WSJ - the coming liberal supermajority

2008-10-18 Thread Jeff Garza
Yeah!!! Right on! Lets benefit the Trial Lawyers and Union Bosses, because they really have your best interests at heart. -Original Message- From: Maureen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 3:25 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: WSJ - the coming liberal

Re: WSJ - the coming liberal supermajority

2008-10-18 Thread Maureen
Good. Now maybe some real work will get done, benefiting the people and not just Shrub, Cheney and their cronies and minions. About damn time. On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 6:30 AM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here is what you are voting for: > > http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1224202058

Re: WSJ - the coming liberal supermajority

2008-10-18 Thread Dana
sssh. Remain calm and await the Men In Black. On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 1:44 PM, Judah McAuley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's exactly what I'm voting for, yeah. > > Prescript drug price controls > Union card check > Representation for District of Columbia > Renegotiate mortgages in bankruptcy >

Re: WSJ - the coming liberal supermajority

2008-10-18 Thread Judah McAuley
That's exactly what I'm voting for, yeah. Prescript drug price controls Union card check Representation for District of Columbia Renegotiate mortgages in bankruptcy Eliminate statute of limitations on workplace discrimination suits (though this is really a radical way of putting it) Bar funding fo

Re: WSJ - the coming liberal supermajority

2008-10-18 Thread denstar
Thank god the Republicans aren't leaving them with much-- they'll be lucky to balance the budget again. :-) -- The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. Henri Frederic Amiel On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 7:30 AM, Robert Munn wrote: > Here is what you are voting for: > > http://onl