I got the same article with no references. I wrote papers while at SUNY, I
still want sources.
.
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 11:24 PM, LRS Scout lrssc...@gmail.com wrote:
Google
October 28, 1495 columbus
On Oct 15, 2013 11:20 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
I can only find one
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 11:28 PM, Erika L. Rich elr...@ruwebby.com wrote:
Now you are making go back to my notes ... see inline.
Bagging a hooker != rape
I didn't say it was, I was giving you a pattern of men bragging about
sexual escapades with women. I am sorry you are a man and
He wasn't referring to Columbus, it was Nicolás de Ovando.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicol%C3%A1s_de_Ovando
Thus, on February 13, 1502, he sailed from Spain with a fleet of thirty
ships. It was the largest fleet that had ever sailed to the New World.
The thirty ships carried 30,500
Moloch: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moloch
The true ruler of the earth, or at least the politicians.
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox
zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com wrote:
I've been watching Sleepy Hollow and have now figured out that the Boston
Tea Party was just a ruse in
http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2013/10/14/8-myths-and-atrocities-about-christopher-columbus-and-columbus-day-151653
This is supported by a reported close friend of Columbus, Michele de Cuneo
who wrote the first disturbing account of a relation between himself and a
Native female gift
Apropos of nothing, but that is one of the most awful, ungainly domain
names I have ever seen. Could they really not find anything more succinct?
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote:
its mainly a paper print publication. the website has always been an
afterthought.
and with today's links and search engines, many companies believe the
domain and url do not matter at all.
(I disagree strongly, but I seem to be in a minority today)
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 6:55 PM, Judah
What do you expect. Columbus was Genoan. At the time Genoa was about the
biggest slave merchants in the eastern Mediterranean and Black Sea. So his
behavior was thought as normal at the time.
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 6:46 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote:
1) Slaves were common, even the Aztec had slaves. He did not rape that girl
nor can I confirm he knew his friend would. It sire is an odd thing to
boast about.
2) The Casas awakening happened in 1515 during the Cuban Conquest. Columbus
was already dead nine years.
.
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at
What do you expect. Columbus was Genoan. At the time Genoa was about the
biggest slave merchants in the eastern Mediterranean and Black Sea. So his
behavior was thought as normal at the time.
Yes, at the time. I'm all for cultural relativism, but are these the
actions of a man we should be
What actions?
.
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Justin Scott leviat...@darktech.orgwrote:
What do you expect. Columbus was Genoan. At the time Genoa was about the
biggest slave merchants in the eastern Mediterranean and Black Sea. So
his
behavior was thought as normal at the time.
What actions?
Given the context of this discussion and all that has already been
presented by myself and others, that is a question which doesn't merit
a serious response.
-Justin
~|
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So you don't know or are you sticking with the murdered millions theme?
.
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 9:10 PM, Justin Scott leviat...@darktech.orgwrote:
What actions?
Given the context of this discussion and all that has already been
presented by myself and others, that is a question which
Genoa was particularly egregious back then. They traded between the Turks,
Egyptian Arabs, the Circassians and the Byzantines. Just read about some of
their practices at Feodosiya in the Ukraine for instance. These are not
good people even by the standards of the slave traders of the nineteenth
Wow. I missed an awesome thread!
I had to do a paper on Columbus for school last year. I had to use primary
sources, originating from Harvard's library. some of these primary sources
were indeed log books, diaries, books, written by Columbus himself, his
friends, or fellow ship-mates, explorers.
Ugh. Typed most of that up in notepad, and it transferred weirdly. Sorry
for the line breaks.
~|
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http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Erika L. Rich elr...@ruwebby.com wrote:
Wow. I missed an awesome thread!
I had to do a paper on Columbus for school last year. I had to use primary
sources, originating from Harvard's library. some of these primary sources
were indeed log books, diaries,
I can only find one reference to this:
*http://xroads.virginia.edu/~cap/poca/POC-col.html
*
*Looks made up.
.
*
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Erika L. Rich elr...@ruwebby.com wrote:
The WHOLE quote from his shipmate, Michele de Cuneo, in a letter from The
Second Voyage, October 28,
It's on a state college and probably has citations some place
On Oct 15, 2013 11:20 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
I can only find one reference to this:
*http://xroads.virginia.edu/~cap/poca/POC-col.html
*
*Looks made up.
.
*
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Erika L. Rich
I'm writing a reply - hold your horses
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 11:19 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
I can only find one reference to this:
*http://xroads.virginia.edu/~cap/poca/POC-col.html
*
*Looks made up.
.
~|
Google
October 28, 1495 columbus
On Oct 15, 2013 11:20 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
I can only find one reference to this:
*http://xroads.virginia.edu/~cap/poca/POC-col.html
*
*Looks made up.
.
*
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Erika L. Rich elr...@ruwebby.com
wrote:
Now you are making go back to my notes ... see inline.
On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 10:40 PM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
Bagging a hooker != rape
I didn't say it was, I was giving you a pattern of men bragging about
sexual escapades with women. I am sorry you are a man and haven't been
Here's a good excerpt from Churchill's book, Indian Among Us.
http://www.mit.edu/~thistle/v9/9.11/1columbus.html
And a document I would love to see is Francisco de Bobadilla supposed 48
page document chronicling what he found after he was sent by the King and
Queen to investigate complaints
Or like common core teaching us the 911 hijackers were freedom fighter
while the people from the Boston Tea party were terrorists?
.
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 7:22 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.comwrote:
Not in the slightest. They're intended to indoctrinate. For instance the
Texas
It hasn't been proven to be less effective. They just can't prove it's more
effective.
But you knew that.
.
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote:
Why do people push to teach abstinence-only education when it has been
proven time and time again to be
Because it's not true. While Columbus was no saint, this is mostly BS.
Notice no references?
.
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Bruce Sorge sor...@gmail.com wrote:
This is what I always wonder. Why is it when we have this kind of
information, why aren't the textbooks changed? Isn't the
I sure the two books that he references have absolutely no references
either.
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
Because it's not true. While Columbus was no saint, this is mostly BS.
Notice no references?
.
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Bruce Sorge
I missed that. Howard Zinn? You have got to be kidding me.
.
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox
zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com wrote:
I sure the two books that he references have absolutely no references
either.
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com
yes Sam, it has. We have gone through this multiple times. And each and
every time I provide about 4 or 5 different studies that show that
abstinence education is not statistically significantly different from the
controls of no sex ed. And I've also shown you a number of comparison
between
again a story that is remarkably fact and content free.
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
Or like common core teaching us the 911 hijackers were freedom fighter
while the people from the Boston Tea party were terrorists?
.
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 7:22 PM,
I was curious, so I looked up the Common Core standards. Here is their list
of text exemplars (illustrative of what kids should be expected to be
reading in terms of complexity and content). Suffice to say, nothing in
there is about 9/11 freedom fighters.
You waving around that bs study again?
Time to update your research
Abstinence programs might work
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/01/AR2010020102628.html
.
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.comwrote:
yes Sam, it has. We have
so your evidence is 1 study conducted over a 2 year span with the age of
kids at 12...I think the study may have to broaden it's time frame a bit to
be truly useful.
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com wrote:
You waving around that bs study again?
Time to update your
BTW that reminds me. From a Canadian point of view the people from the
Boston Tea Party were terrorists. Moreover they didn't want to pay taxes on
a war that they wanted and agitated for (sound familiar/). Nor did they
like the deal the Empire made to ensure that Quebec would be quiet. The
deal
I've been watching Sleepy Hollow and have now figured out that the Boston
Tea Party was just a ruse in order for Ichabod Crane to sneak in and steal
an occult object guard by a Hessian guard who was aligned with a demon
called Morloch.
It's on Fox, it has to be true.
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at
lets see i offered a meta-analysis of over two dozen studies, that used
thousands of students as participants and published in a peer reviewed
scientific medical journal.
You use a newspaper article.
But I looked at the article. Multiple flaws. mostly telephone followups. No
actual std rates
spilt coffee. thanks ^_^ lol
Was reading the serious posts before and this just ...came out of nowhere
lol :-)
On 14 October 2013 12:41, Zaphod Beeblebrox zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.comwrote:
I've been watching Sleepy Hollow and have now figured out that the Boston
Tea Party was just a ruse in
No. My point is there were never any real studies, only one that was
flawed. Now we have a study that proves we don't know the effects despite
how many times Larry swears his study is conclusive.
.
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox
zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com wrote:
so
Well everyone knows you hate America. We're talking about educating
Americans.
.
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 12:34 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.comwrote:
BTW that reminds me. From a Canadian point of view the people from the
Boston Tea Party were terrorists. Moreover they didn't want
So you dismiss this study?
.
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Larry C. Lyons larrycly...@gmail.comwrote:
lets see i offered a meta-analysis of over two dozen studies, that used
thousands of students as participants and published in a peer reviewed
scientific medical journal.
You use
thought he was off
of the coast of China.
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From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 8:37 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: With Columbus Day coming up...
Because it's not true. While Columbus was no saint, this is mostly BS.
Notice
ROFL!
-Original Message-
From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 11:42 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: With Columbus Day coming up...
I've been watching Sleepy Hollow and have now figured out that the Boston
Tea Party was just
Never any real studies = no studies that support my fucked up POV...
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From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 11:46 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: With Columbus Day coming up...
No. My point is there were never any real studies, only
In other words abstinence education does not work and is associated
with a potential increase in teen pregnancy rates. ...
To look at it in a completely different light, what if that's actually
the goal? Think about it... whites are becoming a minority (and
already are in some parts of the
and he thought he was
off
of the coast of China.
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Sent: Friday, October 11, 2013 8:37 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: With Columbus Day coming up...
Because it's not true. While Columbus was no saint, this is mostly BS
...@threeravensconsulting.com wrote:
Never any real studies = no studies that support my fucked up POV...
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From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 11:46 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: With Columbus Day coming up...
No. My point is there were never any real
Really? So what else never happened lol...did torture and brutality during
slavery happen?
Or was that BS too? lol
Since when did this region need to be popularised? Did the people living
here ask Columbus to popularise and enslave them dude?
On 14 October 2013 16:25, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote:
Really? So what else never happened lol...did torture and brutality during
slavery happen?
Left field?
Or was that BS too? lol
Since when did this region need to be popularised? Did the people living
here ask Columbus
Unfortunately for the natives, come in and have some coffee in their
language sounded JUST like i am your slave, here, take my daughters in
Spanish.
Just a big misunderstanding is all.
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote:
Really? So what else never happened
Yeah, I make that mistake a lot.
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson jmi...@gmail.comwrote:
Unfortunately for the natives, come in and have some coffee in their
language sounded JUST like i am your slave, here, take my daughters in
Spanish.
Just a big misunderstanding is
Columbus had nothing to do with it?
So who was responsible, Sam?
Who landed...went back...and then returned? And then wilfully proceeded
with that course of action.
Who wrote about it in his memoirs and left it for the record and posterity?
On 14 October 2013 16:37, Sam sammyc...@gmail.com
But that's just stupid tidbits. The real BS was him slaughtering
and raping and genocide et al.
The main source for the comic was Zinn's book A People's History of
the United States, which I happen to have here on the shelf. Got
it... so this is all covered in the first chapter, pages 1-22.
They didn't keep it secret...they wrote a Saga about it called the Vineland
Sagas...
-Original Message-
From: Sam [mailto:sammyc...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 3:26 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: With Columbus Day coming up...
Finding a continent and keeping
Spoiler alert next time, please :D
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox
zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com wrote:
I've been watching Sleepy Hollow and have now figured out that the Boston
Tea Party was just a ruse in order for Ichabod Crane to sneak in and steal
an occult object
He wrote in his memoirs that he raped and murdered entire cultures?
.
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 4:55 PM, Vivec gel21...@gmail.com wrote:
Columbus had nothing to do with it?
So who was responsible, Sam?
Who landed...went back...and then returned? And then wilfully proceeded
with that
And most historians and everyone that's not a liberal extremist claim
Zinn's interpretation have nothing to do with reality.
But if you think he's the go to source on Columbus nothing I can say will
change your mind.
.
~|
But if you think he's the go to source on Columbus nothing I
can say will change your mind.
I think the go-to source is his own writings. They paint a pretty
bleak picture all by themselves as judged by today's standards.
-Justin
Sam has a well-know dislike of primary source material not produced by
Breitbart.
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Justin Scott leviat...@darktech.orgwrote:
But if you think he's the go to source on Columbus nothing I
can say will change your mind.
I think the go-to source is his own
Columbus never wrote that he raped and murdered people. He never wrote that
he took 500 slaves, nor that he cut off hands and noses. He also didn't
create a slave trade, that was already booming. He didn't mention small pox
and its killing of millions. So I'm guessing you got that info from
This is what I always wonder. Why is it when we have this kind of information,
why aren't the textbooks changed? Isn't the idea of a textbook to teach the
truth?
On Oct 10, 2013, at 4:41 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com
wrote:
http://theoatmeal.com/comics/columbus_day
Why do people push to teach abstinence-only education when it has been
proven time and time again to be less effective?
A lot of times, people push to teach what is comforting to them, what they
want things to be, rather than what they are or were.
Cheers,
Judah
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 1:53
Wow. that rocks.
Bartolome Day, indeed.
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Judah McAuley ju...@wiredotter.com wrote:
Why do people push to teach abstinence-only education when it has been
proven time and time again to be less effective?
A lot of times, people push to teach what is
Sorge [mailto:sor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 3:53 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: With Columbus Day coming up...
This is what I always wonder. Why is it when we have this kind of
information, why aren't the textbooks changed? Isn't the idea of a textbook
to teach the truth
culture originated on the East Coast
and bears a strong resemblance to the Solutrean tool Culture of Continental
Europe.
Eric
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Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 3:53 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: With Columbus Day
-Original Message-
From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:sor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 3:53 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: With Columbus Day coming up...
This is what I always wonder. Why is it when we have this kind of
information, why aren't the textbooks changed
Not in the slightest. They're intended to indoctrinate. For instance the
Texas biology textbooks controversy recently discussed.
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Bruce Sorge sor...@gmail.com wrote:
This is what I always wonder. Why is it when we have this kind of
information, why aren't the
Subject: Re: With Columbus Day coming up...
This is what I always wonder. Why is it when we have this kind of
information, why aren't the textbooks changed? Isn't the idea of a textbook
to teach the truth?
On Oct 10, 2013, at 4:41 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox
zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com
wrote
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