Re: isps, wow

2007-03-28 Thread Dana Tierney
Could be. It's probably also not good for the stats. There was only one guy from my first class (about 20 people) in the last class with me. Part of that was people taking the summer off, but still. I dunno about the licensing, but the required equipment is expensive. And UNM isn't really the te

Re: isps, wow

2007-03-27 Thread Dinner
Not sure what happened to cisco... I'll take a guess and say the enrollments were low, and the licensing cost an arm and a leg... something like that. Maybe that's why we're doing the Apple certs now? Hummm... I'll have to ask. Thanks for the info on the acronym. Hadn't seen it 'fore. On 3/26/

Re: isps, wow

2007-03-26 Thread Dinner
On 3/26/07, Sam wrote: > Yer inglish sux 2 :P > > On 3/26/07, Dinner wrote: > > Bah. I'm no good at math anyways. Hand me that JS ip calc I wrote... :-P alert('indeed.'); ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most signif

Re: isps, wow

2007-03-26 Thread Sam
Yer inglish sux 2 :P On 3/26/07, Dinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bah. I'm no good at math anyways. Hand me that JS ip calc I wrote... :-P ~| Upgrade to Adobe ColdFusion MX7 The most significant release in over 10 years. U

Re: isps, wow

2007-03-26 Thread Dana Tierney
oh man you do a LOT of subnetting. You don't survive the first couple of semesters if you don't get it down. There are shortcuts however. Learning your powers of two, stupid as it sounds, is a big one. Seriously though, I was looking for alternate Cisco Academies at one point and not finding one

Re: isps, wow

2007-03-25 Thread Dinner
On 3/24/07, Dana T wrote: > you guys have cisco classes? You aren't on the list of academies, or weren't > last fall. I think it's been a few semesters since we offered it... Linux as a dial-up took me further into the land of IP than I intended... that's one area where the difference 'tween MS2

Re: isps, wow

2007-03-25 Thread Dana Tierney
you guys have cisco classes? You aren't on the list of academies, or weren't last fall. I suspect though that yes, there is a whole lot of talking about different things in this thread... I have not had time to sort it out. I just find it hard to believe that I did it wrong for five years -- y

Re: isps, wow

2007-03-23 Thread Dinner
Mmmm... I never took our cisco class, so I don't know how DNS really works. I was under the impression that it started out with an IP address, and the rest was some black art. Just thinking plain TCP/IP stuff, no fancy dhcp or wins or whatnot. You saying that if the nameserver is on the same sub

Re: isps, wow

2007-03-23 Thread Dana Tierney
http://www.swcp.com/swcp/dialup-pricing.php I mean... you might want to do that if you were in Nambe or Tome or something, but for the urban heart of albuquerque, if I'm spending $25 a month, I'm getting DSL >Ah, right-o! Just figured I'd throw swcp out there... BT hr. tho? >Niet! (no, not the

Re: isps, wow

2007-03-23 Thread Dana Tierney
the name server is on the same subnet. Usually, in dialup. I'm aware that this does not *have* to be the case, and expecially not when you're running EIGRP or something >Ah, right-o! Just figured I'd throw swcp out there... BT hr. tho? >Niet! (no, not the band ;). > >As for the name server name

Re: isps, wow

2007-03-23 Thread Dinner
Ah, right-o! Just figured I'd throw swcp out there... BT hr. tho? Niet! (no, not the band ;). As for the name server name... how would the name server look up it's name if it was a name? ;-) DNS is pretty funky.. amazing we've made it this long! Black magic, I tell ya... On 3/23/07, Dana T wrot

Re: isps, wow

2007-03-23 Thread Dana Tierney
o:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 11:48 AM >To: CF-Community >Subject: Re: isps, wow > >actually, you are wrong about that. The DNS server is often referred to >by name and this will work if it is in the same domain. For the local >

Re: isps, wow

2007-03-23 Thread Dana Tierney
Well this is for home, which is Albuquerque. The Santa Fe place has Albuquerque numbers. I looked at swcp but eliminated them early on because their dialup accounts charge by the hour after a certain number of hours. Me + 2 teens means that's not good for us. But yeah, spend the money here I sa

RE: isps, wow

2007-03-23 Thread Heald, Timothy J
What's your gateway? What's DHCP providing? If they had you install software did it put an entry in your hosts file? -Original Message- From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 11:48 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: isps, wow actually, you

Re: isps, wow

2007-03-23 Thread Dana Tierney
e. If you didn't already have a DNS entry >listed you wouldn't be able to look up the DNS server by name. > >-Original Message- >From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 3:18 PM >To: CF-Community >Subject: Re: isps, wow &g

Re: isps, wow

2007-03-22 Thread Dinner
I'm just glad you went with someone local. ;-) I've heard good stuff about SWCP, don't know if they do santa or no tho... I still say I am better off dealing with people that can answer the > question. > > Dana ~| Create robus

Re: isps, wow

2007-03-22 Thread Dana Tierney
ntry >listed you wouldn't be able to look up the DNS server by name. > >-Original Message- >From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 3:18 PM >To: CF-Community >Subject: Re: isps, wow > >Hehe. You are too nice. They did not kn

RE: isps, wow

2007-03-22 Thread Heald, Timothy J
, March 22, 2007 3:18 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: isps, wow Hehe. You are too nice. They did not know what a DNS server *was,* Nick. I was way way off script for them and refusing to go back on... >If it is a company like netzero then the tech guys probably won't know which >

Re: isps, wow

2007-03-22 Thread Dana Tierney
Hehe. You are too nice. They did not know what a DNS server *was,* Nick. I was way way off script for them and refusing to go back on... >If it is a company like netzero then the tech guys probably won't know which >DNS servers you need, probably because they don't maintain them. > >When we start

Re: isps, wow

2007-03-22 Thread Dana Tierney
good point on the list of ips, but I hadn't even thought about any of this in a few years. I had not heard of Open DNS -- thanks for mentioning. Dana > efficiently). Now, I mostly use OpenDNS. > > --Ben > > Dana Tierney wrote: > > I was looking today for a plain vanilla unmetered dialup acco

Re: isps, wow

2007-03-22 Thread Ben Doom
This is why I used to keep a list of DNS IPs in my wallet. Whenever I went to a client's, I could get them connected (if not necessarily efficiently). Now, I mostly use OpenDNS. --Ben Dana Tierney wrote: > I was looking today for a plain vanilla unmetered dialup account to fill a > gap while

RE: isps, wow

2007-03-22 Thread Nick McClure
, 2007 11:35 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: isps, wow > > Do tell. All I know is what I learned while making it work, and some > more in the Cisco certification program ;) They had us enter it > manually there btw. > > ::shrug:: > > Anyways... I just signed up with

Re: isps, wow

2007-03-22 Thread William Bowen
> good idea, thanks. you're welcome :-) -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie Fisher ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusio

Re: isps, wow

2007-03-22 Thread Dana Tierney
good idea, thanks. Dana > www.futureme.org > > send yourself a reminder in 30 days ;-) > > -- > will ~| Create robust enterprise, web RIAs. Upgrade & integrate Adobe Coldfusion MX7 with Flex 2 http://www.adobe.com/products/co

Re: isps, wow

2007-03-22 Thread Dana Tierney
ur network > settings. > > You're dial up software, even the built in windows stuff, handle the > handshake for your modem and all the tcp/ip settings. > > -Original Message- > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 10:06 AM > T

RE: isps, wow

2007-03-22 Thread Heald, Timothy J
She made some poor guy in India cry for nothing. Dana, why do you hate baby Jesus? -Original Message- From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 11:15 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: isps, wow DHCP assigned IP, Gateway DNS, WINS and just about anything

Re: isps, wow

2007-03-22 Thread Dana Tierney
welp... not at any of the half-dozen isps I ever worked for, is all I know. And if technical support can't give a coherent answer to the question "what's the name of the DNS server?" then I don't want to be their customer anyway. >DHCP assigned IP, Gateway DNS, WINS and just about anything else.

RE: isps, wow

2007-03-22 Thread Nick McClure
TECTED] > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 10:06 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: isps, wow > > The DHCP server assigns the ip address. You still need the DNS server > to sesolve domain names. In order to manually set up a dialup > connection, you need two pieces of information --

Re: isps, wow

2007-03-22 Thread William Bowen
> My guess is that the business model here is founded on the probability that I > will have > forgotten about this in thirty days. www.futureme.org send yourself a reminder in 30 days ;-) -- will "If my life weren't funny, it would just be true; and that would just be unacceptable." - Carrie

RE: isps, wow

2007-03-22 Thread Heald, Timothy J
for your modem and all the tcp/ip settings. -Original Message- From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 10:06 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: isps, wow The DHCP server assigns the ip address. You still need the DNS server to sesolve domain names. In or

Re: isps, wow

2007-03-22 Thread Dana Tierney
The DHCP server assigns the ip address. You still need the DNS server to sesolve domain names. In order to manually set up a dialup connection, you need two pieces of information -- access (phone) number and dns server info. Trust me on this, did it for a living for years. So as an update to t

RE: isps, wow

2007-03-22 Thread Scott Stewart
And with their software they can feed you ads. -Original Message- From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 7:47 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: isps, wow Many of the low budget ISPs *require* you to use their software for connecting, that way they have

Re: isps, wow

2007-03-22 Thread Rick Root
Many of the low budget ISPs *require* you to use their software for connecting, that way they have control over their communications with you. Rick ~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 & experience time-saving features, m

RE: isps, wow

2007-03-21 Thread Andrew Scott
I guess what they are saying is that when you connect to them the DHCP assigns all this for you, including the DNS server. Unless there is another reason you need that info? Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613  8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273