RE: presentation.. ugh!

2004-04-21 Thread Robyn Follen
at matter). CSS, while it should be used EVERYWHERE, isn't.   We'll see how it goes...  There seems to be more interest in CSS from the people I asked, so maybe I'll focus there.   -Original Message- From: Kevin Graeme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 21,

Re: presentation.. ugh!

2004-04-21 Thread Kevin Graeme
The suggestions given are good ones. Just out of curiosity, why a brown bag on HTML if people know it? Is there a subset of developers that don't actually know it (i.e. new people)? Is there a problem with people not writing good HTML and just winging it? (I see that a lot.) Is there a need to defi

RE: presentation.. ugh!

2004-04-21 Thread Robyn Follen
or a while :-) -Robyn -Original Message- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 3:48 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: presentation.. ugh! Robyn Follen wrote: > > If you all had to sit through an HTML presentation, what would you like > to hear

RE: presentation.. ugh!

2004-04-21 Thread Erika L Walker-Arnold
>>| From: Jochem van Dieten >>| >>| > Robyn >>| >>| Have I missed your "new list member" introduction? Yes you did ;) Back on November 12, 2003 :D [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]

Re: presentation.. ugh!

2004-04-21 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Robyn Follen wrote: > > If you all had to sit through an HTML presentation, what would you like > to hear about? - semantic HTML - CSS - XHTML 2 > Robyn Have I missed your "new list member" introduction? Jochem [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Set

RE: presentation.. ugh!

2004-04-21 Thread Ian Skinner
A couple that may apply: ... I just don't use it allot in the kind of coding I do. The full range of table tags including   Not that usefully in IE browsers but can add some nice accessibility to a page for good text browsers. tags.  These seem to be the forgotten cousin to tags.  but th

RE: presentation.. ugh!

2004-04-21 Thread Robyn Follen
You all are giving me great feedback. It seems I have a few things to learn myself before presenting :-) [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]

Re: presentation.. ugh!

2004-04-21 Thread Kevin Graeme
Yes, I recall the attention applied to lawyers as a special case for accessibility audiences. ;-) -Kevin > Therefore, you might also include this in your talk. Enumerate where HTML can be delivered (web, pda, cellphone, rss feed), who is going to see it (lawyers, blind folk, 6 year olds), where

RE: presentation.. ugh!

2004-04-21 Thread Philip Arnold
> From: Robyn Follen > > So, I have to give an internal brown bag presentation next > week.  It's on drum roll please... HTML!  Yes, I've been > assigned the ever-daunting task of teaching a bunch of > well-versed programmers HTML.  Despite the lack of logic me > giving this presentation a

RE: presentation.. ugh!

2004-04-21 Thread Sandy Clark
PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: presentation.. ugh! Good idea.  What kinds of things would you consider obscure? -Original Message- From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 12:38 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: presentation.. ugh! With an audience like t

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2004-04-21 Thread Jerry Johnson
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/21/04 12:50PM >>> (Note to self: Don't hit send after first word is checked) "sacrelege" should have been "sacrilege" Argh! Jerry Johnson [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]

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2004-04-21 Thread Doug White
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Re: presentation.. ugh!

2004-04-21 Thread Jerry Johnson
There has been a lovely little attack on a designer on the webdesign-L list over the last two days. It started with a designer asking how to explain to a client that web pages are not going to print exactly the way they do on the screen. What he actually said was that web pages were designed for t

RE: presentation.. ugh!

2004-04-21 Thread Robyn Follen
Good idea.  What kinds of things would you consider obscure? -Original Message- From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 12:38 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: presentation.. ugh! With an audience like that, maybe a review of little used/obscure HTML

RE: presentation.. ugh!

2004-04-21 Thread Ian Skinner
With an audience like that, maybe a review of little used/obscure HTML pieces?  Every once in a while I go and review a good HTML source and I go "HEY, I forgot about that!" -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA "C code. C code run. Run code ru