x27;t. :)
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Subject: Re: What Saddam Learned from Serbia, Stalin and the SS
Bill-
I REALLY resent the inference of being a "lieing ass&q
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Tim-
face value.
-Ben
> hmm,
>
> Your always kidding so I have no idea whether to take that at face value
or
> not.
>
&g
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> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 12:59 PM
> Subject: RE: What Saddam Learned from Serbia, Stalin and the SS
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>
> hmm,
>
> Your always kidding so I have no idea whether to
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> Subject: What Saddam Learned from Serbia, Stalin and the SS
>
>
> Tim-
> thanks for the good post (of the TRW article).
>
> I heard that Saddam had a secret room full of Stalin stuff which he
> assiduously studied. Sicko.
>
> -Ben
>
>
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Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 12:59 PM
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hmm,
Your always kidding so I have no idea whether to take that at face value or
not.
:)
Tim
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From: Ben Braver [mailto:
hmm,
Your always kidding so I have no idea whether to take that at face value or
not.
:)
Tim
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From: Ben Braver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 11:57 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: What Saddam Learned from Serbia, Stalin and the SS
Tim-
thanks
rned from Serbia, Stalin and the SS
Tim-
thanks for the good post (of the TRW article).
I heard that Saddam had a secret room full of Stalin stuff which he
assiduously studied. Sicko.
-Ben
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Tim-
thanks for the good post (of the TRW article).
I heard that Saddam had a secret room full of Stalin stuff which he assiduously
studied. Sicko.
-Ben
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I got this from an associate at TRW. Good article.
Tim
StrategyPage
What Saddam Learned from Serbia, Stalin and the SS
by James Dunnigan <http://jim.dunnigan.com/>
March 29, 2003
Saddam Hussein has always been a quick learner, and willing to change
rapidly to survive. He see
incorrect data
or expression of opinions.
7.. The right to ask the Commissioner whether the Act has been contravened
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From: "Will Swain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 5:38 PM
Subj
Here's some more related info on the whole Email Privacy issue :)
"A bill requiring federal law-enforcement officials to be more forthright when
answering questions about electronic
surveillance systems has passed the U.S. House.
The bill, which passed by a unanimous voice vote Monday afternoon
ty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 1:43 PM
Subject: RE: SS
> what about mail encryption & such?
> could you set up a secure encryption for say community, that only trusted
> members could view?
>
> or is that futile?
>
> -paul
>
>
Nothing...
Honest
Well, not at the moment anyway, but I do like to keep my options open.
;)
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From: "Angél Stewart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 1:17 PM
Subject: RE
ty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 11:18 AM
Subject: RE: SS
> Yupseems such a waste of resources too. I mean, surely there are many
> more important things to spend the time and money on??
>
> Race relations anyone? Or poverty?
>
> -Original M
| but there is always another side.
|
| nothing is stopping you from sniffing out .gov mail either.
|
| if you want a bot to hit as many gov sites & archive them
| go for it.
Yeah, but those are public emails .. I really don't think we have access to
the e-mails that some the goverment people sen
ssage-
From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 23 July 2001 17:25
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: SS
but there is always another side.
nothing is stopping you from sniffing out .gov mail either.
if you want a bot to hit as many gov sites & archive them
go for it.
if some one
| Note..I made a point of PRIVATE email between individuals.
| :)
| Not a message posted on a messageboard, but a message placed in an
envelope and mailed to a specific individual, or a call
| placed to that individuals private phone, as opposed to shouted across a
street with a bullhorn.
|
| Thos
outcome of Bush Jnr's policies.
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From: Angél Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 23 July 2001 17:20
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: SS
Note..I made a point of PRIVATE email between individuals.
:)
Not a message posted on a messageboard, but a message placed in a
but there is always another side.
nothing is stopping you from sniffing out .gov mail either.
if you want a bot to hit as many gov sites & archive them
go for it.
if some one points a camera at you.
buy one & point it right back.
-paul
~~
Struct
Note..I made a point of PRIVATE email between individuals.
:)
Not a message posted on a messageboard, but a message placed in an envelope and mailed
to a specific individual, or a call
placed to that individuals private phone, as opposed to shouted across a street with a
bullhorn.
Those are the
Isn't a government that has to constantly monitor it's citizen's
communications a government that no longer represents it's people???
Just a thought!
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From: Marcus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 23 July 2001 17:13
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: SS
> Well! That might be the case in this instance!
>
> But what about the wholesale harvesting of emails! and! storing
> them for several years!
What about it? If I post a message on a real bulletin board (ie, the cork
board variety), there is nothing stoping anyone from 'saving' those messages
for
Well! That might be the case in this instance!
But what about the wholesale harvesting of emails! and! storing them for several years!
That's just not Kosher!!
is it!
Ok..I will stop with the exclamation marks hee hee I was just having some fun.
Anyways, sending an email to a public mailing li
| It seems that you think it breaches your right to privacy!
| But where is it written! That you have a right to Privacy!
Well .. I don't know where it's written, but the Constition of the US , more
or less, states that just because it isn't written doesn't mean it isn't a
right .. then again, it
Here are a few observations based upon personal experience.
> -Original Message-
> From: Angél Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 10:20 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: SS
>
>
> Well!
>
> From what you're saying!
Well, the fact that the letter of the law is followed at the expense of the
spirit of the law certainly doesn't help either.
Todd
-
"Your guilt or innocence has nothing to do with the outcome of your trial" -
Some big-time lawyer whose name I forgot.
~~~
Well!
>From what you're saying!
I would have to disagree that it affects! Your! Free speech!
It seems that you think it breaches your right to privacy!
But where is it written! That you have a right to Privacy!
I would tend to think though,that since the government must get a court order to tap
concepts? or attainable ideals??
the point is, they don't appear to be reality at this point in time.
Will
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From: Todd Ashworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 24 July 2001 04:44
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: SS
| In the US, we have a concept of innocent
They are only concepts when people stop defending them as rights.
Marcus
> | In the US, we have a concept of innocent until PROVEN guilty, as well as
> the
> | concept of being secure in your own property!
>
> Too bad these are only concepts ..
>
> Todd
> -
> Give me liberty, or give me my m
| In the US, we have a concept of innocent until PROVEN guilty, as well as
the
| concept of being secure in your own property!
Too bad these are only concepts ..
Todd
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~~
Structure your ColdFusion
Why is it a bad thing? Because it's against the concept of freedom of
speech!
What do I have to hide? Nothing. And not allowing you to search doesn't mean
I have anything to hide either!
In the US, we have a concept of innocent until PROVEN guilty, as well as the
concept of being secure in your
Thank you! Now maybe I can wake up
-Original Message-
From: Angél Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 9:23 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: SS
0_0
maybe a few drops too much?
=)
Here..have a muffin.
*slides jam filled muffin to her*
-Gel
-Original
0_0
maybe a few drops too much?
=)
Here..have a muffin.
*slides jam filled muffin to her*
-Gel
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From: Greenwood, Erin E. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Umm -- Exactly how much coffee have you had this morning? : )
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hehe.
just don't get sued
-paul
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Nope.
Not yet.
I am thinking of doing a large print of that umm..version of Aki i sent you in email
though.
^_^
hee hee
-Gel
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From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
you get that poster Gel?
-paul
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Umm -- Exactly how much coffee have you had this morning? : )
-Original Message-
From: Angél Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 8:54 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: SS
Futile!
WE ARE THE ALPHA AND THE OMEGA!
WE KNOOO What you THINK before you TYPE IT
Futile!
WE ARE THE ALPHA AND THE OMEGA!
WE KNOOO What you THINK before you TYPE IT!
ENCRYPTION WILL NOT HELP YOU!
RESISTANCE IS FWUTILE!!!
*waves fist in air!*
-gel
-Original Message-
From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
what about mail encryption & such?
could you set up
what about mail encryption & such?
could you set up a secure encryption for say community, that only trusted
members could view?
or is that futile?
-paul
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CAn't tell you that.
;)
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From: Angél Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 23 July 2001 13:18
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: SS
Why is that a bad thing?
What do you have to hide?
-Gel
>:-Þ
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From: Wayne Putterill [mailto:[EMAIL P
> Why is that a bad thing?
Because then any stupid thing said in haste or anger can come back to haunt
you. All you have to do is joke about a crime and if that crime occurs and
your a suspect, then the email will be brought in as evidence to you
thinking of the crime.
> What do you have to hide?
Why is that a bad thing?
What do you have to hide?
-Gel
>:-Þ
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From: Wayne Putterill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
It's all of us that have our communications monitored, I used to think it
was just another crackpot conspiracy theory but sadly it seems we really do
have no
: SS
It's all of us that have our communications monitored, I used to think it
was just another crackpot conspiracy theory but sadly it seems we really do
have no privacy. There are even plans now in Europe to keep a record of all
personal email and telephone calls for 7 years - very depre
ssing.
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From: "Will Swain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 10:27 AM
Subject: RE: SS
> Agreed, and that was really my point. DO you get used to having all your
> correspondence
Agreed, and that was really my point. DO you get used to having all your
correspondence monitored??
W
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From: John Allred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 20 July 2001 22:35
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: SS
Will,
Given the tenor and content of the original post, I&#
ohn Allred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 21 July 2001 12:49
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: SS
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I have to admit that I've always found British politics to be just as
> fascinating as our own. I guess that makes me a political nerd as well as
> a compu
Well, if that's the case, I'm a political nerd too ;)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 20 July 2001 22:37
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: SS
Well, in this case, the Secret Service takes a *very* broad view on what
constitutes "as
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> I have to admit that I've always found British politics to be just as
> fascinating as our own. I guess that makes me a political nerd as well as
> a computer nerd. =B)
Yeah. The Prime Minister's Questions (before the House of Lords?) seems
like a free-for-all to m
e.com> cc:
Subject: RE: SS
07/20/2001
ll be monitored
> and action taken if you speak out of line.
>
> Where does it end?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Allred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 19 July 2001 15:32
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: SS
>
> Will,
>
> I don't kn
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> -Original Message-
> From: Will Swain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 11:34 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: SS
&
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Sent: 20 July 2001 14:02
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: SS
Freedom of speech, like all freedoms, is not absolute. Just as I can't
falsely yell "Fire!" in a crowded theatre or spout baseless defamatory or
libelous statements, neither can I commit assault. It
e.com> cc:
Subject: RE: SS
CTED]]
Sent: 19 July 2001 15:32
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: SS
Will,
I don't know if you guys are "sheltered," but given Americans'
historic
penchant for assassinating Presidents, our Secret Service tries to
gather as much information as possible on anything remotely
resemblin
gt; [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Judith Dinowitz)]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 12:49 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: SS
>
>
> Shasta,
>
> Check out the CF-Talk archives
> (http://www.houseoffusion.com/archive/).
>
>
~~
:-) It doesn't seem to be there any more ...
H.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Judith Dinowitz)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Judith Dinowitz)]
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 12:49 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: SS
Shasta,
Check out the CF-Talk archives
Ma'am, the Secret
Service doesn't have a sense of humor that we're aware of."
--John
Will Swain wrote:
>
> What, and that thing about the SS was for real. Guess us Brits live
a
> sheltered life!!
>
> Will
>
~
What, and that thing about the SS was for real. Guess us Brits live a
sheltered life!!
Will
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From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 July 2001 00:11
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: SS
He did apologize to the list and I got him right in touch with the
He did apologize to the list and I got him right in touch with the SS
guy.
All wrapped up.
> thanks judith. eeek! boy this guy just went off the deep end on that
> one
> didn't he?
> ~~
> Stephenie Hamilton
> Allaire Certified ColdFusion Professional
>
>
>
>
uly 18, 2001 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: SS
> Shasta,
>
> Check out the CF-Talk archives
> (http://www.houseoffusion.com/archive/). It
> ran at 5:43 this morning -- a very provocative message with the
title
> "Kill
> the President." Suffice it to say that the Secret S
Stephenie
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 2:18 PM
> Subject: RE: SS
>
>
> > > Well, there are US gov employees on the lists and I
8 PM
Subject: RE: SS
> > Well, there are US gov employees on the lists and I believe they
are
> > required to report these things
>
> Even if they didn't report it, I would think it's much more likely
> that once
> mail reaches a .mil or .gov address, it's s
tware
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 11:55 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: SS
>
>
> Well, there are US gov employees on the lists and I believe they are
> required to report these th
> PS: To Echelon
> ---
> >From Todd, with love.
Yeah, Todd, real subtle Sig there...
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chael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 3:43 PM
> Subject: Re: SS
>
>
> > I got into work and had a few phone messages from my wife who was
> > quite
> > concerned. It seems
>I got into work and had a few phone messages from my wife who was
>quite
>concerned. It seems that the secret service called her about the
>thread.
That's pretty interesting. How do you suppose they found out? Are all of the emails on
this list being analyzed by some massive database somewher
If they hire me I'll let you know. :)
> what a job it would be though.
> think of the tech they access to!
> makes me salivate just thinking about it.
>
> wonder how many cf_hacks they have on bored.
> cant find any good job postings on there site.
>
> guess if they needed a skilled person, they
u.org/echelonwatch/faq.html
It's a scary big brother world we are living in.
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From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: SS
> I got into work
]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 10:36 AM
Subject: SS
| That president thread in CF-Talk reminded me of something I heard
| ages ago.
| A friend of mine, in his freshman Comp Sci year in Dublin Ireland,
| told me a
| story of two classmates. The
what a job it would be though.
think of the tech they access to!
makes me salivate just thinking about it.
wonder how many cf_hacks they have on bored.
cant find any good job postings on there site.
guess if they needed a skilled person, they would approach them.
[the theme of James bond playin
om: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 10:43 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: SS
I got into work and had a few phone messages from my wife who was
quite
concerned. It seems that the secret service called her about the
thread.
That's all I need. Macrom
: SS
These guys are doing their jobs, though -- they have to investigate
everything that might be a threat to the President, because they
don't know
who the next nutcase is. Did you know that in the U.S., it's a
federal crime
to even make such a threat? (I'm talking words, folk
I got into work and had a few phone messages from my wife who was
quite
concerned. It seems that the secret service called her about the
thread.
That's all I need. Macromedia AND the US government upset with me. :)
Actually, they just wanted the headers from the post. I sent them the
posters apo
These guys are doing their jobs, though -- they have to investigate
everything that might be a threat to the President, because they
don't know
who the next nutcase is. Did you know that in the U.S., it's a
federal crime
to even make such a threat? (I'm talking words, folks, just talking
about
That president thread in CF-Talk reminded me of something I heard
ages ago.
A friend of mine, in his freshman Comp Sci year in Dublin Ireland,
told me a
story of two classmates. The first was this clueless girl who knew
nothing
about computers and the other was this guy was helping her out wit
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