On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
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> nice consequence based solution. That might actually work.
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We're in the last phase of the the Mayan Calendar and the 9th and final
level of consciousness.
Enlightened Unity Consciousness
http://darkstarastrology.com/october-28-2011
nice consequence based solution. That might actually work.
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:02 AM, Maureen wrote:
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> If you really want legal and ethical reform in corporate governance, make
> the shareholders accountable for corporate malfeasance. Force any monetary
> penalties to come from dividend
That is simply brilliant. Unfortunately, we will never see it happen.
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:02 AM, Maureen wrote:
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> If you really want legal and ethical reform in corporate governance, make
> the shareholders accountable for corporate malfeasance. Force any monetary
> penalties to come fr
If you really want legal and ethical reform in corporate governance, make
the shareholders accountable for corporate malfeasance. Force any monetary
penalties to come from dividends, not from price increases. It wouldn't
take more than one accounting quarter for every company to clean house of
no. And it need not be permanent, either. A single day's suspension
woud send a message in many cases, I think.
Or, to suggest another means: Board of Directors. People would take
due diligence a *whole* lot more seriously.
On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
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> So would th
SOx is supposed to, among other things, hold the CEO and board of
directors directly responsible if they willfully provide falsified
financial statements in an attempt to commit fraud. They lose their
corporate protection and the money comes right out of their pockets.
Of course, SOx has been
I read a website recently that showed a listing of corporations that had
been found guilty of some manner of illegal acts including acts in countries
outside the US.
It read like a who's who of major multinationals.
Glaxo, Enron, Goldman Sachs, Merril Lynch, Texaco, Walmart,Dow, Siemens,
Exxon, R
That was supposed to happen as the results of the reforms after the Enron
scandal. In fact, I think several Enron execs are doing or have done some
prison time. Ken Lay would certainly have done time if he had not died
before sentencing.
I would question your comment that "almost every major co
Almost every major corporation has violated laws in the US and other
countries. They pay fines ranging from 10 to 20 million for these breaches
and then go about making their billion dollar profits as per usual.
I say we need to make the Executive, Board and Shareholders personally
responsible fo
That was my point, Larry, corporations aren't people. If you can't put
them in jail for violating laws then that pretty much clarifies the
issue of whether they are people or not, in my mind.
Judah
On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Larry C. Lyons wrote:
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> So would that be considered a death pen
No. It isn't. I was simply ranting. Besides, kicking lobbyists to the
curb would probably be enough.
Yeah, the superpac thing certainly isn't begging to be abused.
Again, no more individual status for Corporations. Corporations should
not make campaign contributions.
On 10/9/2011 11:39 AM,
So would that be considered a death penalty then? Rather extreme for
most crimes.
On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Gruss Gott wrote:
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> Shut their ops down. Examples include the FAA or CMS. You don't comply, you
> don't fly
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> On Oct 9, 2011, at 10:40 AM, "Larry C. Lyons" wrote:
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Shut their ops down. Examples include the FAA or CMS. You don't comply, you
don't fly
On Oct 9, 2011, at 10:40 AM, "Larry C. Lyons" wrote:
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> How do you jail a corporation?
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> On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 10:17 PM, Judah McAuley wrote:
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>> And be able to be sent to prison.
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>> On Sat
How do you jail a corporation?
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 10:17 PM, Judah McAuley wrote:
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> And be able to be sent to prison.
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> On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Dana wrote:
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>> At a minimum, if corporations are individuals like anyone else for
>> purposes of free speech, then they should also p
one thing about term limits is that it makes the elected politicians
even more dependent on the lobbyists, bureaucrats and full time
political aides than they do now. Moreover with the superpac
provisions now legal because of the Citizens United v. Federal
Election Commission Supreme Court decisio
+1
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Judah McAuley wrote:
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> And be able to be sent to prison.
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> On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Dana wrote:
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>> At a minimum, if corporations are individuals like anyone else for
>> purposes of free speech, then they should also pay taxes like anyone
>> else
And be able to be sent to prison.
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Dana wrote:
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> At a minimum, if corporations are individuals like anyone else for
> purposes of free speech, then they should also pay taxes like anyone
> else
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>> 1. Corporations need to lose their status as individuals. They
At a minimum, if corporations are individuals like anyone else for
purposes of free speech, then they should also pay taxes like anyone
else
> 1. Corporations need to lose their status as individuals. They can keep
> their legal protection for their owners, but they should not be able to
> act a
I just read about the Gov. of SC pushing for colleges to have to adopt a
similar "pay for performance" that the public school system has. No
college student left behind? Actually, I think it will result in many
being left behind. I can see colleges becoming a lot stricter when it
comes to
Since roughly 1973 our country has pursued unsustainable social and economic
policies independent of which party has controlled either the presidency or
congress.
Consequently almost every governmental institution and control we have is
cracking:
* infrastructure is literally crumbling
* our
So every night on the news they state they don't know what the protest
is for, no demands.
Last night they said they finally made a request that rich people pay
higher taxes.
Is that what PoS's do nowadays? Protest to try and force someone else
to pay higher taxes. Get a f'n life aholes.
We sho
quibble: that's more of a differentiation than a summary. But I agree,
it's a fairly admirable statement if they keep to it. Probably the
most interesting thing I have seen about them yet. I mean, it doesn't
take a rocket science to recognize that there's unaddressed inequity
out there, but seeing
Refusal to be coopted can hamper the short term proliferation of your
message but has much more power in the long run. Still damn tough.
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/297396_2330783382898_1049131144_2712538_1117320360_n.jpg
Cheers,
Judah
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