Re: Google pulls funding - calls out liars on climate change

2014-09-24 Thread Sam
Climate movement drops mask admits communist agenda: http://pjmedia.com/zombie/2014/09/23/climate-movement-drops-mask-admits-communist-agenda/ . On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Sam wrote: > LA LA Times is even questioning the overlords: > http://www.latimes.com/science/la-sci-pacific-warming-2

Re: Google pulls funding - calls out liars on climate change

2014-09-23 Thread Sam
LA LA Times is even questioning the overlords: http://www.latimes.com/science/la-sci-pacific-warming-20140923-story.html Pure heresy . On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Sam wrote: > They've been influencing politics all along. Now they're influencing > the scientific process. We all know if a

Re: Google pulls funding - calls out liars on climate change

2014-09-23 Thread Sam
They've been influencing politics all along. Now they're influencing the scientific process. We all know if a CEO says the earth is warming then it is despite what the science says. . On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Vivec wrote: > > It's about time that tech companies start influencing the di

Re: Google pulls funding - calls out liars on climate change

2014-09-23 Thread Vivec
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Google pulls funding - calls out liars on climate change

2014-09-22 Thread Cameron Childress
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RE: Climate Change Settled

2014-07-11 Thread Eric Roberts
*snerk* -Original Message- From: Zaphod Beeblebrox [mailto:zaph0d.b33bl3b...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 1:24 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Climate Change Settled Or maybe we should poll the ones that wear diapers and attempt to kidnap people. I bet they'd have

Re: Climate Change Settled

2014-07-11 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
Or maybe we should poll the ones that wear diapers and attempt to kidnap people. I bet they'd have some good theories too. On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Maureen wrote: > > If we're going get our science from the Apollo Astronauts, I'm going > with the ones who saw UFOs. > http://www.syti.n

Re: Climate Change Settled

2014-07-11 Thread Sam
He's Hansen's replacement at NASA. He does climate modeling and all the models are always wrong. On a good note, Hansen is now making big bucks ans so will he. . On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Vivec wrote: > > Good education on the climate change models. > > Sam, you

Re: Climate Change Settled

2014-07-11 Thread Maureen
Hail Eris! On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 4:03 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: > > Were we closer I'd be looking for golden apples to throw. Might do it > anyway... just for the ceremony of it. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology n

Re: Climate Change Settled

2014-07-10 Thread Sam
This one: http://stevengoddard.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/screenhunter_13-jan-05-07-45.jpg . On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 5:03 PM, GMoney wrote: > > Cooling throughout much of the country? I thought we were talking about > GLOBAL warming, not American warming. Google "global temperatures by year",

Re: Climate Change Settled

2014-07-10 Thread Vivec
Good education on the climate change models. Sam, you should take a look at this. http://www.ted.com/talks/gavin_schmidt_the_emergent_patterns_of_climate_change ᐧ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http

Re: Climate Change Settled

2014-07-10 Thread GMoney
Cooling throughout much of the country? I thought we were talking about GLOBAL warming, not American warming. Google "global temperatures by year", and then pick your chart. On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 3:54 PM, Sam wrote: > > Who's your scientist? Is it Hanson? Remember the temperature has been >

Re: Climate Change Settled

2014-07-10 Thread Sam
Who's your scientist? Is it Hanson? Remember the temperature has been flat for the last 17-1/2 years: http://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/briefs/hansen_07/ Whither U.S. Climate? By James Hansen, Reto Ruedy, Jay Glascoe and Makiko Sato — August 1999 Empirical evidence does not lend much support

Re: Climate Change Settled

2014-07-10 Thread GMoney
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 3:41 PM, Sam wrote: > > Everything about the planet heating up has been faked. > EVERYTHING? Really? you believe that? You truly believe that not only are humans not responsible for global warming, but that world actually is not warming at all ~~

Re: Climate Change Settled

2014-07-10 Thread Sam
peer review scandal. NASA recently changed the temperature numbers showing 1930's was hotter than the 90's. Everything about the planet heating up has been faked. . On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 4:21 PM, Vivec wrote: > > Sam, there is scientific consensus on climate change. > To say that

Re: Climate Change Settled

2014-07-10 Thread Sam
What well respected climatologist do you believe? . On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 4:11 PM, GMoney wrote: > > I've said i don't understand ALL of the science. if i did, i'd be a well > respected climatologist. Are you claiming to fully understand all of the > science behind global warming? Answer

Re: Climate Change Settled

2014-07-10 Thread Vivec
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Re: Climate Change Settled

2014-07-10 Thread GMoney
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Sam wrote: > > This is awesome. The next time an AGW-denying creationist vomits out > their > > brain droppings, I'll lay this one on them: "God created humans and > caused > > them to contribute to global warming. We need to teach the controversy!" > > Wait... a

Re: Climate Change Settled

2014-07-10 Thread Sam
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 3:49 PM, GMoney wrote: > > Most of these right wingers who deny AGW, also support the questioning of > evolution and the teaching of myths in the science classroom. Not even close. You're talking about maybe 1% of conservatives questioning evolution vs all the folks that

Re: Climate Change Settled

2014-07-10 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
Were we closer I'd be looking for golden apples to throw. Might do it anyway... just for the ceremony of it. Until Later! C. Hatton Humphrey http://www.eastcoastconservative.com Every cloud does have a silver lining. Sometimes you just have to do some smelting to find it. ~~

Re: Climate Change Settled

2014-07-10 Thread GMoney
atic position when it > comes > > to the truth or falsity of human caused global climate change. > > > > However, all of our noodely-appendages politicians seem to have their > minds > > made up. Lame brained limp dicks the lot of them. > > > > > > ~~~

Re: Climate Change Settled

2014-07-10 Thread Sam
I would guess AGW followers are also FSM followers. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's the case. . On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 3:39 PM, GMoney wrote: > > My noodley-appendaged deity has no official dogmatic position when it comes > to the truth or falsity of human caused gl

Re: Climate Change Settled

2014-07-10 Thread GMoney
My noodley-appendaged deity has no official dogmatic position when it comes to the truth or falsity of human caused global climate change. However, all of our noodely-appendages politicians seem to have their minds made up. Lame brained limp dicks the lot of them. On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:29

Re: Climate Change Settled

2014-07-10 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 3:22 PM, GMoney wrote: > And of course, hidden with your post, is the #1 problem with climate change > debate...the fact that it's considered a POLITICAL debate. > In most cases you can strike the modifier but you do bring up a great point. In my min

Re: Climate Change Settled

2014-07-10 Thread Sam
ave to find it again but only rarely has it not >> been met. >> > > And of course, hidden with your post, is the #1 problem with climate change > debate...the fact that it's considered a POLITICAL debate. > >

Re: Climate Change Settled

2014-07-10 Thread GMoney
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:13 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: > Actually I posted the formula for political debate threads on this list > some years back... I'd have to find it again but only rarely has it not > been met. > And of course, hidden with your post, is the #1 pro

Re: Climate Change Settled

2014-07-10 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 3:08 PM, GMoney wrote: > That's awesome..The Descent Into Madness. Actually I posted the formula for political debate threads on this list some years back... I'd have to find it again but only rarely has it not been met. Until Later! C. Hatton Humphrey http://www.e

Re: Climate Change Settled

2014-07-10 Thread GMoney
That's awesome..The Descent Into Madness. On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 1:47 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Cameron Childress > wrote: > > > "Because uh uh uh uh OBAMA!" > > > > https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/5574176000/h40C1115A/ > > > > We have reache

Re: Climate Change Settled

2014-07-10 Thread Sam
Try using common sense Not sure what part your son is laughing at but I'm thinking you should go with the other guy . On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Maureen wrote: > > My son, who is an astrophysicist is laughing at this. Who should I > believe? Some guy I never heard of, or the one who ha

Re: Climate Change Settled

2014-07-10 Thread Maureen
My son, who is an astrophysicist is laughing at this. Who should I believe? Some guy I never heard of, or the one who has an education I funded? On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Sam wrote: > > "In the media, it was being called a theory. Obviously, they didn't > know what it means to be a theo

Re: Climate Change Settled

2014-07-10 Thread Sam
You found one part you disagree with and use it to dismiss all of it? . On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Vivec wrote: > > He is relating the amount of CO2 in his spacecraft , to the effect of CO2 > on the planet? > > That is a completely invalid analogy, there is no comparison. >

Re: Climate Change Settled

2014-07-10 Thread Sam
And the pigeon dances... . On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Sam wrote: > >> They do. I was wondering if you were the guy asking Obama if he wanted >> to "hit this" > > > Good point and thank you for giving me a way to clearly identif

Re: Climate Change Settled

2014-07-10 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > "Because uh uh uh uh OBAMA!" > > https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/5574176000/h40C1115A/ > > We have reached the end. > https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/5982690816/hE88F1BB4/ No, *now* we have reached the end :) Until Later! C. Hatton

Re: Climate Change Settled

2014-07-10 Thread Vivec
He is relating the amount of CO2 in his spacecraft , to the effect of CO2 on the planet? That is a completely invalid analogy, there is no comparison. ᐧ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adob

Re: Climate Change Settled

2014-07-10 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Sam wrote: > They do. I was wondering if you were the guy asking Obama if he wanted > to "hit this" Good point and thank you for giving me a way to clearly identify the end of any thread you participate in. "Because uh uh uh uh OBAMA!" https://i.chzbgr

Re: Climate Change Settled

2014-07-10 Thread Sam
They do. I was wondering if you were the guy asking Obama if he wanted to "hit this" . On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Sam wrote: > >> Are you in Colorado? > > > The whole state of Colorado doesn't take you seriously anymore eithe

Re: Climate Change Settled

2014-07-10 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Sam wrote: > Are you in Colorado? The whole state of Colorado doesn't take you seriously anymore either huh? ... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldf

Re: Climate Change Settled

2014-07-10 Thread Sam
Are you in Colorado? . On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Sam wrote: > >> You mean like this? > > > Be careful not to alter your age on your Facebook profile, it might mean > that you never existed and are merely the result a worldwide

Re: Climate Change Settled

2014-07-10 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Sam wrote: > You mean like this? Be careful not to alter your age on your Facebook profile, it might mean that you never existed and are merely the result a worldwide conspiracy where and overwhelming majority of people claimed that you actually existed. Neverm

Re: Climate Change Settled

2014-07-10 Thread Sam
"In the media, it was being called a theory. Obviously, they didn't know what it means to be a theory," says Cunningham who has a B.S. in Physics (with honors) from University of California at Los Angeles and an M.S., with distinction; Institute of Geophysics And Planetary Sciences, with completed

Re: Climate Change Settled

2014-07-10 Thread Sam
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2014/06/23/noaanasa-dramatically-altered-us-temperatures-after-the-year-2000/ You mean like this? . On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 2:01 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Sam wrote: >> >> Sounds like you can't defend your position, so

Re: Climate Change Settled

2014-07-10 Thread Maureen
If we're going get our science from the Apollo Astronauts, I'm going with the ones who saw UFOs. http://www.syti.net/UFOSightings.html On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Sam wrote: > > http://cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/craig-bannister/apollo-astronaut-climate-alarmism-biggest-fraud-field-science > > A

Re: Climate Change Settled

2014-07-10 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Sam wrote: > > Sounds like you can't defend your position, so you just make jokes > about how stupid the people in the know are. I am not in the business of defending scientific consensus, but keep digging up the kooky blog posts. Keep that faith. You are doing w

Re: Climate Change Settled

2014-07-10 Thread Sam
Sounds like you can't defend your position, so you just make jokes about how stupid the people in the know are. Whatever works for you. . On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > just need O'Reilly to chime in with, "Shit heats up and cools down...you > can't explain that"

Re: Climate Change Settled

2014-07-10 Thread Sam
http://cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/craig-bannister/apollo-astronaut-climate-alarmism-biggest-fraud-field-science Apollo Astronaut: Climate Alarmism Is the ‘Biggest Fraud in the Field of Science’ "To me, it's almost laughable, it's the biggest fraud in the field of science,certainly in my lifetime

Re: Climate Change Settled

2014-07-10 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
just need O'Reilly to chime in with, "Shit heats up and cools down...you can't explain that" On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Sam wrote: > > > I'm guessing he meant to say they have the same variation in > > temperature. > > > > Gu

Re: Climate Change Settled

2014-07-10 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Sam wrote: > I'm guessing he meant to say they have the same variation in > temperature. > Guessing certainly seems like the right way to go if you are anti-science. Keep the faith Sam. -Cameron ... ~~~

Re: Climate Change Settled

2014-07-10 Thread Sam
Such a hater. Why is that? . On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 1:05 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > > doesn't this sum up the conservative position on global warming...base your > stance on misinformation. > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfus

Re: Climate Change Settled

2014-07-10 Thread Sam
I'm guessing he meant to say they have the same variation in temperature. But use what ever flub you can to defend your point since facts won't work. . On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCF_Yy3oFNo > > > > > ~~~

Re: Climate Change Settled

2014-07-10 Thread Vivec
I'm shocked. The temperature on Mars is the same as the earth, so therefore human activity is not affecting earth climate. And said with a straight face. ᐧ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/

Re: Climate Change Settled

2014-07-10 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
doesn't this sum up the conservative position on global warming...base your stance on misinformation. On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCF_Yy3oFNo > > > > >

Climate Change Settled

2014-07-10 Thread Cameron Childress
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Re: The free, on-line course "Climate Change in Four Dim ensions" is being offered…

2014-06-20 Thread Maureen
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Re: The free, on-line course "Climate Change in Four Dim ensions" is being offered…

2014-06-20 Thread Sam
Please sign up for this so you can explain the so-called theory of "climate change". A lot of folks swear by it but nobody has been able to explain it yet. . On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > https://plus.google.com/u/0/116665417191671711571/p

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Re: A study by Climate change deniers accidentally confirms 97% global consensus on human caused global warming

2014-06-09 Thread Sam
r it's mans >> doing. When someone presents actual science to back up that theory I >> will have a look. >> >> . >> >> On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 3:40 AM, Maureen wrote: >>> >>> Just out of curiosity, Sam, on what do you base your rejection of the >&

Re: A study by Climate change deniers accidentally confirms 97% global consensus on human caused global warming

2014-06-06 Thread Maureen
the so-called proof that it exists or it's mans > doing. When someone presents actual science to back up that theory I > will have a look. > > . > > On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 3:40 AM, Maureen wrote: >> >> Just out of curiosity, Sam, on what do you base

Re: A study by Climate change deniers accidentally confirms 97% global consensus on human caused global warming

2014-06-06 Thread Sam
It was appropriate. I'll retire it now. . On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Sam wrote: > >> >> >> Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter >> how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over all th

Re: A study by Climate change deniers accidentally confirms 97% global consensus on human caused global warming

2014-06-06 Thread Judah McAuley
It is a good saying though. Just overused. On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 1:08 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Sam wrote: > > > > > > > Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter > > how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over a

Re: A study by Climate change deniers accidentally confirms 97% global consensus on human caused global warming

2014-06-06 Thread Scott Stroz
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Sam wrote: > > > Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter > how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over all the > pieces, crap on the board, and strut around the table looking > victorious. > > You have used that sayi

Re: A study by Climate change deniers accidentally confirms 97% global consensus on human caused global warming

2014-06-06 Thread Sam
Aw, you simpletons are so cute when you're flustered. Arguing with liberals is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over all the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around the table looking victorious. . On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 3:

Re: A study by Climate change deniers accidentally confirms 97% global consensus on human caused global warming

2014-06-06 Thread Sam
e to try? What is the worst thing that can happen? The air we all > breathe has less pollutants in it? the water we drink is naturally cleaner? > I am OK with those consequences..even if shows that man had nothing to do > with the climate change. As I said, we're ahead of schedule wit

Re: A study by Climate change deniers accidentally confirms 97% global consensus on human caused global warming

2014-06-06 Thread Cameron Childress
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote: > I can’t believe you haven’t put him in a killfile yet. I don't really do killfiles. I like to know what the loony tunes are up to. ~| Order the Adobe Coldfu

Re: A study by Climate change deniers accidentally confirms 97% global consensus on human caused global warming

2014-06-06 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
I can’t believe you haven’t put him in a killfile yet. On Jun 6, 2014, at 2:09 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > > > I believe you! You don't have to prove you are a troll to me any longer. I > totally buy it. Sold! > > ... > > > ~

Re: A study by Climate change deniers accidentally confirms 97% global consensus on human caused global warming

2014-06-06 Thread Cameron Childress
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 3:03 PM, Sam wrote: > Based on your idiotic claims, you must believe AGW is proven without a > doubt. But rather than providing scientific evidence to back up your > theory, you try ridicule. You should really be ashamed. I believe you! You don't have to prove you are a t

Re: A study by Climate change deniers accidentally confirms 97% global consensus on human caused global warming

2014-06-06 Thread Sam
Based on your idiotic claims, you must believe AGW is proven without a doubt. But rather than providing scientific evidence to back up your theory, you try ridicule. You should really be ashamed. . On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Scot

Re: A study by Climate change deniers accidentally confirms 97% global consensus on human caused global warming

2014-06-06 Thread Scott Stroz
re you test a theory and if the results don't match the theory, you take what you learned and adapt the theory (or reject it outright). > > > I would expect our knowledge of the > > consequences of the rising average temperature to change over time as we > > get better

Re: A study by Climate change deniers accidentally confirms 97% global consensus on human caused global warming

2014-06-06 Thread Sam
eading from DNC TPM. > I would expect our knowledge of the > consequences of the rising average temperature to change over time as we > get better technology to model the events, and, when we actually get data > when stuff happens. Just because a t

Re: A study by Climate change deniers accidentally confirms 97% global consensus on human caused global warming

2014-06-06 Thread Cameron Childress
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 1:25 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > What the hell are you talking about? Seriously. What are you talking about? I am amazed these conversations are still going on. Don't get me wrong I like to see the list with a little life in it... but "anonymous person Sam" is and always has

Re: A study by Climate change deniers accidentally confirms 97% global consensus on human caused global warming

2014-06-06 Thread Scott Stroz
on you. I would expect our knowledge of the consequences of the rising average temperature to change over time as we get better technology to model the events, and, when we actually get data when stuff happens. Just because a theory of the consequences of climate change did not pan out, does not mean

Re: A study by Climate change deniers accidentally confirms 97% global consensus on human caused global warming

2014-06-06 Thread Sam
So you've realized you're argument is flawed and need a graceful way to bow out? How much do you think it went up since the 80's or 200 years ago? More than a bit? . On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > 'Went up a bit in the 80's'? > > When you say stuff like this, it makes me

Re: A study by Climate change deniers accidentally confirms 97% global consensus on human caused global warming

2014-06-06 Thread GMoney
I dunno, does common core apply to physical science classes too? :) On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Sam lacks an understanding of thermodynamics. His daughter should be > getting to physical sciences in school soon, though, so maybe he'll have a > better understanding

Re: A study by Climate change deniers accidentally confirms 97% global consensus on human caused global warming

2014-06-06 Thread Sam
Too cute. When scientist pondered if the oceans oscillation patterns added to warmer temperatures the left laughed historically. Now some scientists made a model that failed and they're using the failure as an explanation. Please. . On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Sam

Re: A study by Climate change deniers accidentally confirms 97% global consensus on human caused global warming

2014-06-06 Thread Sam
The most likely explanation for the lack of significant warming at the Earth’s surface in the past decade or so is that natural climate cycles—a series of La Niña events and a negative phase of the lesser-known Pacific Decadal Oscillation—caused shifts in ocean circulation patterns that mov

Re: A study by Climate change deniers accidentally confirms 97% global consensus on human caused global warming

2014-06-06 Thread Sam
30 years ago they were worried about global cooling, now it's warming or disruptions. You need to pick a range and stick with it. . On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 12:41 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > From the article Jonah posted: > > 'The long-term trend—change over the course of a century or more—is

Re: A study by Climate change deniers accidentally confirms 97% global consensus on human caused global warming

2014-06-06 Thread Scott Stroz
'Went up a bit in the 80's'? When you say stuff like this, it makes me think you really have no clue...about anything other than what you conservative overlords have told you. On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 12:45 PM, Sam wrote: > > Temperature went up a little in the 80's and then leveled out. Is the

Re: A study by Climate change deniers accidentally confirms 97% global consensus on human caused global warming

2014-06-06 Thread Judah McAuley
Sam lacks an understanding of thermodynamics. His daughter should be getting to physical sciences in school soon, though, so maybe he'll have a better understanding once she gets there and they go over 4 laws of thermodynamics and Boyle's Law. Cheers, Judah On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Scott

Re: A study by Climate change deniers accidentally confirms 97% global consensus on human caused global warming

2014-06-06 Thread Sam
Temperature went up a little in the 80's and then leveled out. Is the fact that the temperature didn't go down that makes your point valid? Because it hasn't risen in half of those years. . On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > It has been more than a 'few warm year' and my ar

Re: A study by Climate change deniers accidentally confirms 97% global consensus on human caused global warming

2014-06-06 Thread Scott Stroz
'Wild guess'? A bit hyperbolic, no? On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Sam wrote: > > That's not science, it's a wild guess. Must be hiding in the oceans. Too > funny. > > . > > -- Scott Stroz --- You can make things happen, you can watch things happen or you can wonder what the f*&k

Re: A study by Climate change deniers accidentally confirms 97% global consensus on human caused global warming

2014-06-06 Thread Scott Stroz
>From the article Jonah posted: 'The long-term trend—change over the course of a century or more—is what defines “global warming,” not the change from year to year or even decade to decade.' On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Sam wrote: > > But isn't that your argument? A few warm years

Re: A study by Climate change deniers accidentally confirms 97% global consensus on human caused global warming

2014-06-06 Thread Scott Stroz
I understand that , I was simply trying to show that when you are dealing with a cycle - and it does appear to be cyclical - that takes tens of thousands of years, 10 years is really nothing. On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Scott, we used to think that it took thous

Re: A study by Climate change deniers accidentally confirms 97% global consensus on human caused global warming

2014-06-06 Thread Scott Stroz
It has been more than a 'few warm year' and my argument has never been that man 'caused' it, rather that man has contributed to it. On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Sam wrote: > > But isn't that your argument? A few warm years proves man has caused > the planet to heat up? > > . > > On Fri, Ju

Re: A study by Climate change deniers accidentally confirms 97% global consensus on human caused global warming

2014-06-06 Thread Sam
e answers. I tend to think a lot >> has already been done. I tend not to share the alarmist view of even some >> scientists who seem to think their conclusions are destined to bear out 100 >> years from now. >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Sam wrote

Re: A study by Climate change deniers accidentally confirms 97% global consensus on human caused global warming

2014-06-06 Thread Sam
But isn't that your argument? A few warm years proves man has caused the planet to heat up? . On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Sam wrote: > >> >> >> The trending warmer stopped over a decade ago. >> >> > In a system (climate) that takes t

Re: A study by Climate change deniers accidentally confirms 97% global consensus on human caused global warming

2014-06-06 Thread Judah McAuley
Scott, we used to think that it took thousands of years for climate to change. And that is what happens, as I understand it, in "normal" times. In very extreme times (asteroid impact, world-wide series of volcanic eruptions, etc) we've seen that things can change surprisingly quickly, over the cou

Re: A study by Climate change deniers accidentally confirms 97% global consensus on human caused global warming

2014-06-06 Thread Judah McAuley
w. > > > On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Sam wrote: > > > > > Climate cooling then climate warming then climate change and now it's > > called climate disruption. > > > > The trending warmer stopped over a decade ago. > > > > But you are

Re: A study by Climate change deniers accidentally confirms 97% global consensus on human caused global warming

2014-06-06 Thread Scott Stroz
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Sam wrote: > > > The trending warmer stopped over a decade ago. > > In a system (climate) that takes thousands (if not hundred of thousands) or years to change, 10 years is the equivalent to the blink of an eye, and, when mapped out relative to the life of the pl

Re: A study by Climate change deniers accidentally confirms 97% global consensus on human caused global warming

2014-06-06 Thread Sam
That was awesome . On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Rick Faircloth wrote: > > So, after reading only "half" of "one or two" of the "hundreds upon > hundreds of studies, > who's [sic] findings support this conclusion" [ that global warming,

Re: A study by Climate change deniers accidentally confirms 97% global consensus on human caused global warming

2014-06-06 Thread Sam
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > >> BTW, I do not reject the possibility that humans can contribute to >> "climate disruption". >> > > So you accept that there is a bullet in the gun. Hyperbole? > >> What I reject is the so-called proof that it exists or it's mans >>

Re: A study by Climate change deniers accidentally confirms 97% global consensus on human caused global warming

2014-06-06 Thread GMoney
wrote: > > Climate cooling then climate warming then climate change and now it's > called climate disruption. > > The trending warmer stopped over a decade ago. > > But you are correct, what evidence do we have that man is causing the > climate to change? > More importantly, w

Re: A study by Climate change deniers accidentally confirms 97% global consensus on human caused global warming

2014-06-06 Thread Sam
Climate cooling then climate warming then climate change and now it's called climate disruption. The trending warmer stopped over a decade ago. But you are correct, what evidence do we have that man is causing the climate to change? More importantly, what should we do if it is true. The U

Re: A study by Climate change deniers accidentally confirms 97% global consensus on human caused global warming

2014-06-06 Thread Sam
I don't need to. Out of the 3,896 used to form the consensus only 64 endorse AGW The real questions is what proof did you see that convinced you AGW is real. Specifically, like CO2 is a greenhouse gas, I'm not even sure what other theories there are. . On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 10:33 AM, GMoney w

Re: A study by Climate change deniers accidentally confirms 97% global consensus on human caused global warming

2014-06-06 Thread Judah McAuley
ere always is in science. The consensus seems pretty solid, though. I will also say that I have direct scientific insight into the effects of climate change. The lab I worked at published on of the first and most respected papers showing physiological adaptation in the wild of a species to climate c

Re: A study by Climate change deniers accidentally confirms 97% global consensus on human caused global warming

2014-06-06 Thread GMoney
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Rick Faircloth wrote: > > So, after reading only "half" of "one or two" of the "hundreds upon > hundreds of studies, > who's [sic] findings support this conclusion" [ that global warming, now > called 'cli

Re: A study by Climate change deniers accidentally confirms 97% global consensus on human caused global warming

2014-06-06 Thread Rick Faircloth
So, after reading only "half" of "one or two" of the "hundreds upon hundreds of studies, who's [sic] findings support this conclusion" [ that global warming, now called 'climate change'] is real and is caused by human activity, and only "some

Re: A study by Climate change deniers accidentally confirms 97% global consensus on human caused global warming

2014-06-06 Thread GMoney
I have not, Rick. Never said I did. I have read the abstract on a half dozen or so of them, and read maybe half of one or two of themi was able to grasp some of it, others went a little over my head. So to form my own opinion on this, i try to read articles by scientists that attempt to expl

Re: A study by Climate change deniers accidentally confirms 97% global consensus on human caused global warming

2014-06-06 Thread Rick Faircloth
So, GMoney... To paraphrase you, when did you "read the hundreds upon hundreds of studies who's findings support this conclusion, and deem every one of the to be scientific and credible" ? Rick On 6/6/2014 10:33 AM, GMoney wrote: > On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 8:30 AM, Sam wrote: > >> Science, logi

Re: A study by Climate change deniers accidentally confirms 97% global consensus on human caused global warming

2014-06-06 Thread Cameron Childress
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 10:39 AM, GMoney wrote: > Not sure i buy that alarmist timeline. Perhaps his great grand kids. > Or their kids But yes... -Cameron ... ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.am

Re: A study by Climate change deniers accidentally confirms 97% global consensus on human caused global warming

2014-06-06 Thread GMoney
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Cameron Childress wrote: > > That is because the proof of where the bullet was located comes at the end > of russian roulette. I get it though - you prefer to wait and see what > happens. This is probably because the gun is pointed at your kids and not > you. > >

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