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Now how did I miss that, sure does! On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 12:46 PM, Jeff Garza wrote: > > Wow... that description sounds a lot like... "Government". > > Original Message > > From: "Larry C. Lyons" > > Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 8:37 AM > > To: "cf-community" > > Subject:

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Thank you Judah for that excellent summary of Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations. On Monday, May 12, 2014, Judah McAuley wrote: > > I do not think they are capitalists, I think that it is a plutocracy. Any > notion that there has been a mostly capitalist economy in the country > should have ended w

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Gotcha. I wouldn't call it Democracy, myself, but I get where you are coming from. If you look at Citizens United and the like, they are a result of Judiciary, which is definitely not a Democratic institution, even if one is vital to a Republic or a Democracy. You do have a point about legislatin

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oh oh oh I got another one. He is speaking of a symbiot not a parasite. par·a·site ˈparəˌsīt/ *noun* 1. an organism that lives in or on another organism (its host) and benefits by deriving nutrients at the host's expense. *symbiont * (ˈsɪmbɪˌɒnt)

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However by tying the term "capitalist" and the idea of the ruling class or elite together, as though they are related; he is being disingenuous at least. The defenses of his point in turn making my own. I'll be here all week ;) On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 2:26 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > Think ab

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Think about what you just said Eric. However in our nation at least, the lighter the hand has been, the better the results. Look I'm not an anarchist, or a big L libertarian.I know individuals become corrupt, that's the problem, in the private sector more easily than in government probably,at hi

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Bush an Obama could not have pushed through the legislative agenda they and their masters have without first controlling the legislature and the judiciary both. On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 2:15 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > The drug war. > > The IRS. > > The defense industry. > > These are all the child

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Basically my point. On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 2:18 PM, Eric Roberts < ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > There hasnt been a free market in modern times...if there ever was... > > Eric > On May 12, 2014 10:46 AM, "LRS Scout" wrote: > > > > > So we use a word coined by Marx to indict the

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There hasnt been a free market in modern times...if there ever was... Eric On May 12, 2014 10:46 AM, "LRS Scout" wrote: > > So we use a word coined by Marx to indict the people with the means to > actually employ others. > > Nice. > > When you show me a single "capitalist" free market economy w

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The drug war. The IRS. The defense industry. These are all the child of the voter. On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 2:14 PM, LRS Scout wrote: > I mean legislating in fear towards security, even in violations of the > principals of this country and doing so because of popular support, or > at least a

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I mean legislating in fear towards security, even in violations of the principals of this country and doing so because of popular support, or at least apathy. Citizens United is a perfect example of Democracy over Republicanism to my mind. On 5/12/14, Judah McAuley wrote: > > Too far towards de

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Too far towards democracy? Could you explain what you mean there? It feels like we are continuously headed toward plutocracy (Citizens United and the like just codified it) rather than democracy, but perhaps I misunderstand what you are trying to say. Cheers, Judah On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 11:07

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Your pendulum description is right on with what I think about American politics, only instead of slowing down and eventually settling in the middle it accelerates with each swing. I'm afraid we've gone to far towards democracy, given up too much, to go back peacefully now. But then again, maybe

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*William Makepeace Thackeray - credited by oxford* The origin of the word ‘capitalist’ is of much earlier vintage: in French, A. R. J. Turgot (1727-1781) used ‘capitaliste’ in his essay, ‘Reflection on the Formation and Distribution of Wealth’ (1769-1770), and WilliamGodwin used its

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I do not think they are capitalists, I think that it is a plutocracy. Any notion that there has been a mostly capitalist economy in the country should have ended with "to big to fail". I believe that there have been times when our country has been more capitalist and less capitalist. Capitalism s

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So Adam Smith, the writer of An Inquiry into the Nature and Causes of the Wealth of Nations, and originator of the idea of Free Enterprise, is a Communist? Wow given that he lived well before Marx and Engels that's pretty impressive. http://adamsmithslostlegacy.blogspot.com/2009/01/free-capitali

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Wow... that description sounds a lot like... "Government". Original Message > From: "Larry C. Lyons" > Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 8:37 AM > To: "cf-community" > Subject: capitalism > > http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/files/2014/05/jason-read.jpg > >

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I don't have a job. I've only ever been called a parasite and the like by lefties Again generalizations. Earned vs given On May 12, 2014 12:01 PM, "Jerry Milo Johnson" wrote: > > > Did you read any of the actual words on that image? > > It was a direct response to the organized narrative from

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Do think the ruling class in America today is "capitalists"? Open question to the group. On May 12, 2014 12:01 PM, "Jerry Milo Johnson" wrote: > > Did you read any of the actual words on that image? > > It was a direct response to the organized narrative from the right calling > anyone without

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1. The word capitalism was created for communists 2. The system that is supposed to describe hasn't and probably can't exist in its pure form, much like communism 3. There are actual leeches on the system. That is when I've seen the word used, think back to old dirty bastard picking up his w

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On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 11:01 AM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > > Did you read any of the actual words on that image? > > It was a direct response to the organized narrative from the right calling > anyone without a job a parasite. > > It was pointing out the incorrect nature of that word as it is

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Did you read any of the actual words on that image? It was a direct response to the organized narrative from the right calling anyone without a job a parasite. It was pointing out the incorrect nature of that word as it is used by that talking point. And it suggested that the word would more co

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"Managed economy" is a way of not saying "redistribution of wealth". On May 12, 2014 11:56 AM, "LRS Scout" wrote: > Allow me to introduce you to what, 100 years of centralized banking, > socialization, and collectivism. > > And that's just in the US. > On May 12, 2014 11:37 AM, "Larry C. Lyons"

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Allow me to introduce you to what, 100 years of centralized banking, socialization, and collectivism. And that's just in the US. On May 12, 2014 11:37 AM, "Larry C. Lyons" wrote: > > http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/files/2014/05/jason-read.jpg > > ~~

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So we use a word coined by Marx to indict the people with the means to actually employ others. Nice. When you show me a single "capitalist" free market economy we'll talk. On May 12, 2014 11:37 AM, "Larry C. Lyons" wrote: > > http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/files/2014/05/jason-read.jpg

Re: Capitalism in the world of MMORPGs

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