> Mo wrote:
> Buffett would only benefit from a bailout of the insurance segment if
> his insurance companies were failing. They aren't. So in a sense the
> government is propping up his competitors. Why would he like that?
>
Except for insurance makes money by investing premiums and Buffet onl
Buffett would only benefit from a bailout of the insurance segment if
his insurance companies were failing. They aren't. So in a sense the
government is propping up his competitors. Why would he like that?
On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 7:45 AM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> RoMunn wrote:
>
> RoMunn wrote:
> You must not have read the article.
No, but then I don't need to.
Tell me the reasons you think Buffet wouldn't like a government
bailout of the financial sector which include insurance?
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I don't have the numbers; the numbers don't exist. The "plan" is a
three-page document. I base my statement on Bernanke's statement to
Congress the day before yesterday.
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Show me the math. You can't because you are wrong abou
Show me the math. You can't because you are wrong about the basic math
behind the plan.
The only gain for firms that take up this plan is that they get to stay in
business. They are going to lose their shirts on this deal- having to sell
assets at ten or twenty cents on the dollar because they are
: Thursday, September 25, 2008 2:17 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: ru$h on da bank
>
> a bailout in which the taxpayer has all the risk and Wall Street has
> all the gain? I really don't think so bub.
>
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTE
If this bailout is a failure, can I write off my share as some type of
capital gains loss on my taxes? ;-)
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a bailout in which the taxpayer has
a bailout in which the taxpayer has all the risk and Wall Street has
all the gain? I really don't think so bub.
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That smell is the Bush Derangement Kool-Aid. Get past your own partisan
> beliefs and look at the big picture.
You must not have read the article. Buffet likes the move from a purely
financial gain perspective FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. He thinks the Fed
will come out way, way ahead. As he said, he would make the play himself if
he had $700 billion in spare cash.
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Gruss
> RoMunn wrote:
> Warren Buffet likes Paulson's plan:
>
Duh. Gee, I wonder what an investor would think of using tax payer
dollars to save the economy that investor is invested in ... ?
H...?
OF COURSE HE LIKES A TAX PAYER BAILOUT!
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That smell is the Bush Derangement Kool-Aid. Get past your own partisan
beliefs and look at the big picture. Without a bailout, lending between
financial institutions goes to zero and the economy grinds to a halt.
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Dana wrote:
> I smell a last looting of the tre
I smell a last looting of the treasury before the current junta leaves power.
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Adam Churvis
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I think it is also possible that the
>> regulatory environment should be revised (not necessarily
>> strengthened).
>
> Yes, you're right, of c
> I think it is also possible that the
> regulatory environment should be revised (not necessarily
> strengthened).
Yes, you're right, of course. I meant complete inaction within the scope of
the bailout itself: we don't need it.
Respectfully,
Adam Phillip Churvis
President
Productivity Enhan
I could be convinced of this. I think it is also possible that the
regulatory environment should be revised (not necessarily
strengthened). A bailout followed by an expectation that more of the
same will lead to different results would be STOOPID. We have already
been there, done that. RTC anyone?
> he is trying to stampede us the same way he stampeded us into the
> patriot act and the war in iraq. No more stampedes I say.
Whenever a salesman pushes you to act immediately and warns of grave
consequences if you don't, you can always always ALWAYS just completely
ignore him because he's lyin
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 1:01 PM, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As for Cam's "there's nothing to worry about", well, I think Adam
> articulately described exactly why there is.
I am so not worried that I am going to go ahead and mark this thread.
Creating an "I told you so" label in gm
Warren Buffet likes Paulson's plan:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aRef_DUx6AcU&refer=worldwide
``I think the Treasury will pay back the $700 billion and make a
considerable amount of money,'' Buffett said, adding that if he had $700
billion on the government's terms to buy d
> If you're worried about not getting dollars for your dollars, then
> Adam is right.
I'm right.
Scroll down when you go here, and take a good, long, careful look at those
numbers:
http://www.fdic.gov/about/financial/letters/08Q2_stake.html#1
Looks like a house of cards undergoing rapid constru
he is trying to stampede us the same way he stampeded us into the
patriot act and the war in iraq. No more stampedes I say. Fool me
twice was bad enough. Action is required but buying bad debt from Wall
Street is not the correct action.
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 7:20 AM, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> But here's the thing - if one person pulls out one Jinga block, there
> probably won't be a problem. If everyone pulls out their Jinga blocks
> problem.
Here is exactly what's going to happen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdckdCY-LHg
Respectfully,
Adam Phillip Churvis
President
Produ
> gMoney wrote:
> So, ideally, you want $99,999 dollars in your account..?
>
For me, it's $0 (as "savings"), since there are better places to get a return.
As for Cam's "there's nothing to worry about", well, I think Adam
articulately described exactly why there is. In fact, this exact type
So, ideally, you want $99,999 dollars in your account..?
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 9:46 AM, Adam Churvis <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > so my 300 bucks is safe :)
>
> I know you're asking this as a funny comeback, but I think it deserves a
> little serious discussion.
>
> The answer is "No."
oh i know... ur right... and yes, mine was trivial... but man,
whatever, i have a feeling
things will just work :) am i crazy?
-- tony
Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace.
-- siddhartha gautama
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Adam Churvis
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Adam Churvis
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This assumes that the FDIC is solvent, which it is not.
Of all the things worthy of bailout, FDIC is it. I am not worried one iota.
-Cameron
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> so my 300 bucks is safe :)
I know you're asking this as a funny comeback, but I think it deserves a
little serious discussion.
The answer is "No." Here's why.
The way things like this are handled when claims cannot be fulfilled by the
government are that they trim from both sides of the bell
so my 300 bucks is safe :)
/runs
-- tony
Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace.
-- siddhartha gautama
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 10:30 AM, Erika L. Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> eggsactly ...
>
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Adam Churvis <
> [EMAIL PROTECT
eggsactly ...
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Adam Churvis <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> This assumes that the FDIC is solvent, which it is not.
>
>
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> From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Unless you have more than 100k in the bank, or have somehow found a
> bank that is not FDIC insured, you have nothing to worry about.
This assumes that the FDIC is solvent, which it is not.
Respectfully,
Adam Philli
> From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Unless you have more than 100k in the bank, or have somehow found a
> bank that is not FDIC insured, you have nothing to worry about.
This assumes that the FDIC is solvent, which it is not.
Respectfully,
Adam Phillip Churvis
President
Produc
Or CDs
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On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 8:22 AM, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Oh and I wouldn't pull your money out
its a buyers delight right now.
if you've got the $, its GREAT to buy now...
the prices are low, the real estate market is about to have a glut
and why not, if you've got it, buy all the deals up now!
tw
-- tony
Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace.
-- siddhartha gau
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Oh and I wouldn't pull your money out of the markets either
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 7:22 AM, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 6:21 AM, Paul Ihrig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> so, was thinking it might
Yes, some ... just some.
What does our money manager here think of Ford and GM in particular ...
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
> Actually (and I am not giving professional advice here), it might be a
> good time to move some (not all) dollars from
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 8:22 AM, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Oh and I wouldn't pull your money out of the markets either
Actually (and I am not giving professional advice here), it might be a
good time to move some (not all) dollars from savings into the market
right now.
-Camero
Bush is right though...i know, i know, it sounds weird saying that
butthe ripple affect of letting all these people get what's coming
to them WILL eventually affect you and me, the responsible
investor/borrower.
If the market crashes, lending dries up. If lending dries up, business
sta
honestly, i believe its the WORST thing we could all do.
sit tight, let them pencil pushin geeks figure it out, and 'moke some
good green.
holla
-- tony
Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace.
-- siddhartha gautama
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Paul Ihrig <[EMAI
cool
thats what i needed to hear
got a lot freaked out by last nights speech.
only watched it for a few minutes before i got to pissed off.
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Oh and I wouldn't pull your money out of the markets either
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 7:22 AM, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 6:21 AM, Paul Ihrig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> so, was thinking it might be a good time to take at least a bit out of
>> savings.
On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 6:21 AM, Paul Ihrig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> so, was thinking it might be a good time to take at least a bit out of
> savings.
> any one else having similar ideas?
>
> not sure if it wise
> but i would feel better come monday
>
Take it out of savings and do what with i
Unless you have more than 100k in the bank, or have somehow found a
bank that is not FDIC insured, you have nothing to worry about.
On Sep 25, 2008, at 7:21 AM, "Paul Ihrig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> so, was thinking it might be a good time to take at least a bit out
> of savings.
> any on
so, was thinking it might be a good time to take at least a bit out of savings.
any one else having similar ideas?
not sure if it wise
but i would feel better come monday
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