Re: technologies you can no longer use

2011-08-10 Thread Larry Lyons
>Well, on the upside, home-ec would come back. > Yes but do you want to learn to cook only that which is mentioned in the bible? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1

Re: technologies you can no longer use

2011-08-10 Thread Medic
Well, on the upside, home-ec would come back. On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Larry Lyons wrote: > > Um that's what I've been saying all the while. Creationism is a very > specific fundamentalist Christian ideology. Its spawned intelligent design > and the infamous Wedge Strategy. Lately they

Re: technologies you can no longer use

2011-08-10 Thread Larry Lyons
Um that's what I've been saying all the while. Creationism is a very specific fundamentalist Christian ideology. Its spawned intelligent design and the infamous Wedge Strategy. Lately they've been trying to link up with conservative Islam by sponsoring creationist and ID conferences in Saudi Ar

Re: technologies you can no longer use

2011-08-08 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Larry, Thank you! That's exactly the information I was asking about. We're basically talking about a very specific ideology rather than a general belief. Michael On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Larry Lyons wrote: > > Creationism is a very strict idiotology. Signing the DI's pledge to follow

Re: technologies you can no longer use

2011-08-08 Thread Larry Lyons
You can use the Discovery Institute's criteria. However looking at the agreements And the pledges to follow Christian conservatism, I doubt many non Christian fundamentalists would sign up. >I cannot tell if you are being serious or playing Devil's Advocate. > >Do you really not know what the

Re: technologies you can no longer use

2011-08-08 Thread Larry Lyons
Creationism is a very strict idiotology. Signing the DI's pledge to follow the conservative Christian credo as espoused by the Discovery institute, would be very much against most of the beliefs as advocated by Conservative and Orthodox Judaism. Again this list would be either very, very shor

Re: technologies you can no longer use

2011-08-06 Thread Medic
> > > it tends to accumulate around your penal gland. Sweet. Does it make it noticeably bigger? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Arc

Re: technologies you can no longer use

2011-08-05 Thread Michael Dinowitz
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Larry Lyons wrote: > > Evolution has nothing to do with atheism. > > Your reverse list should be those inventions developed by avowed creatinists, > sorry Creationist in the last 100 years. > > I suspect that it will be a short if not zero length list. Like I said

Re: technologies you can no longer use

2011-08-05 Thread Michael Dinowitz
On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 8:37 PM, Eric Roberts wrote: > > Someone who believe that the universe and the earth and all life on it was > created as described in the OT...it's the only definition I have ever heard. But that simple definition covers myself and just about every religious Jew. In other w

Re: technologies you can no longer use

2011-08-05 Thread Michael Dinowitz
On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > > I cannot tell if you are being serious or playing Devil's Advocate. Both. > Do you really not know what the term "Creationist" means in terms of > 21st Century American culture and politics? I've seen the term used for a wide spread o

Re: technologies you can no longer use

2011-08-05 Thread Larry Lyons
Not relevant to the discussion. >Did you read the site name? > >On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: >> >> Michael, your reverse list bears no resemblance in any way to the original >> list. >Why? If one list can be a stretch from point A to point B, why can't >another list

Re: technologies you can no longer use

2011-08-05 Thread Larry Lyons
ions >made by people who were not atheists. I guess all atheists should >avoid this list as it was made by believers who may well believe in a >different version of creation than put forth by current science. > > > >> >> If you are a creationist or have a similar belief set: &

Re: technologies you can no longer use

2011-08-05 Thread Larry Lyons
you mean there's a gland for jails? >On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Medic wrote: > >> >> This is great. In fact anyone that does believe in creationism... please DO >> stop getting vaccines and drinking treated water. Please. >> >> >> >I do not receive vaccines, and drinking water is full of sh

Re: technologies you can no longer use

2011-08-05 Thread PT
Deer pee! On 8/5/2011 8:44 AM, Vivec wrote: > > Doesn't spring water collect the toxic waste and other run-off that > seeps into the water table? ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusi

Re: technologies you can no longer use

2011-08-05 Thread Casey Dougall
On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Vivec wrote: > Doesn't spring water collect the toxic waste and other run-off that > seeps into the water table? > Depends on the source... Obviously if you live along the Hudson river i wouldn't be drinking from any natural source due to PCB levels. As for Sarat

Re: technologies you can no longer use

2011-08-05 Thread Vivec
Doesn't spring water collect the toxic waste and other run-off that seeps into the water table? On 5 August 2011 08:42, Casey Dougall wrote: > You should be seriously worried about Fluoride intake as it tends to > accumulate around your penal gland. > http://www.fluoridealert.org/fluoride-facts

Re: technologies you can no longer use

2011-08-05 Thread Casey Dougall
On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Medic wrote: > > This is great. In fact anyone that does believe in creationism... please DO > stop getting vaccines and drinking treated water. Please. > > > I do not receive vaccines, and drinking water is full of shit including Fluoride which is bad for you. Y

Re: technologies you can no longer use

2011-08-05 Thread Vivec
Someone who believes men rode Dinosaurs and who thinks the world was created in exactly 168 hours. "The universe was created to reveal the love and mercy of God, and life forms were created to be a blessing to one another and to God. Life forms were created in approximately their current state, r

Re: technologies you can no longer use

2011-08-05 Thread GMoney
atheists should > avoid this list as it was made by believers who may well believe in a > different version of creation than put forth by current science. > > > On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Larry Lyons > wrote: > > > > If you are a creationist or have a similar belief

RE: technologies you can no longer use

2011-08-04 Thread Eric Roberts
ssage- From: Jerry Milo Johnson [mailto:jmi...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 7:33 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: technologies you can no longer use I cannot tell if you are being serious or playing Devil's Advocate. Do you really not know what the term "Creationist&quo

RE: technologies you can no longer use

2011-08-04 Thread Eric Roberts
, but used natural forces to move things along and thus there is no conflict with evolution. Eric -Original Message- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:mdino...@houseoffusion.com] Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 7:04 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: technologies you can no longer use On Thu, Aug

Re: technologies you can no longer use

2011-08-04 Thread PT
On 8/4/2011 8:32 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > > I cannot tell if you are being serious or playing Devil's Advocate. > > Do you really not know what the term "Creationist" means in terms of > 21st Century American culture and politics? > > Does anyone else on the list have any question on the de

Re: technologies you can no longer use

2011-08-04 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
I cannot tell if you are being serious or playing Devil's Advocate. Do you really not know what the term "Creationist" means in terms of 21st Century American culture and politics? Does anyone else on the list have any question on the definition of that label? On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 8:28 PM,

Re: technologies you can no longer use

2011-08-04 Thread Michael Dinowitz
> That is disingenuous of you Michael. > > You know exactly who the term "Creationist" applies to in this context. Actually, I don't. I don't know if it only applies to those who believe in 6000 (or so) actual days of existence or those who believe that existence has a controlling force. I believ

Re: technologies you can no longer use

2011-08-04 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
That is disingenuous of you Michael. You know exactly who the term "Creationist" applies to in this context. On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Michael Dinowitz wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Vivec wrote: >> >> Other people's hypocrisy doesn't threaten the education of children. > T

Re: technologies you can no longer use

2011-08-04 Thread Michael Dinowitz
On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Vivec wrote: > > Other people's hypocrisy doesn't threaten the education of children. They don't? I know of a hypocrisy that threatens the education of hundreds of millions of people across the world. > The root argument is that it shows that Creationists are eith

Re: technologies you can no longer use

2011-08-04 Thread Vivec
Other people's hypocrisy doesn't threaten the education of children. The root argument is that it shows that Creationists are either plain ignorant, or wilfully ignorant, of the science they claim to deny. And no, Creationists do not get to claim that the Theory of Relativity is correct in one i

Re: technologies you can no longer use

2011-08-04 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Easiest answer around. Because someone will say that the results are flawed. Nothing against the technology, everything against the people's interpretation of the results and/or how the technology was used to get the (flawed) results. The root of the argument is that creationists are hypocrites.

Re: technologies you can no longer use

2011-08-04 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Did you read the site name? On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Jerry Milo Johnson wrote: > > Michael, your reverse list bears no resemblance in any way to the original > list. Why? If one list can be a stretch from point A to point B, why can't another list be stretched as well? > > And where/how

Re: technologies you can no longer use

2011-08-04 Thread Vivec
If you don't believe that man can or should fly, because God didn't give him wings... Isn't it hypocritical for you to use an airplane? So if you don't believe in the age of the Universe as science now defines it because it doesn't match your interpretation of scripture, how can you glory in the

Re: technologies you can no longer use

2011-08-04 Thread Jerry Milo Johnson
atheists should > avoid this list as it was made by believers who may well believe in a > different version of creation than put forth by current science. > > > On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Larry Lyons wrote: >> >> If you are a creationist or have a similar belief set

Re: technologies you can no longer use

2011-08-04 Thread Michael Dinowitz
wrote: > > If you are a creationist or have a similar belief set: > > http://canadianatheist.com/2011/08/03/technologies-you-can-no-longer-use/ > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.

Re: technologies you can no longer use

2011-08-04 Thread Medic
m/2011/08/03/technologies-you-can-no-longer-use/ > > ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/g

technologies you can no longer use

2011-08-03 Thread Larry Lyons
If you are a creationist or have a similar belief set: http://canadianatheist.com/2011/08/03/technologies-you-can-no-longer-use/ ~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp