Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-02-01 Thread J W
I don't do a whole hell of consultant work but I do on occasion. Complacency like this gets me all fired up though. So the gist I am reading here is: Yeah its OK for companies to BURN you. You should go sulk in a corner, reflect on how it went bad and move on. Try not to let it happen again. No co

Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-02-01 Thread Jeffry Houser
In addition to clients, I have quite a few vendors I'd like to go on and on bitching about. Sometimes I find it's good to write this stuff down. And then destroy those words in some manner of your choosing. (Shred them / burn them / whatever ) I think all my problems related back to a co

Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-02-01 Thread C. Hatton Humphrey
> Seriously... learn from the experience with whoever burned you today, maybe > share your experience with some close friends and family in PRIVATE just to > get it off your chest.. and move on. +1 I'm trying to get my boss to invest in some laser-tag time for our team after this month's... month

Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-02-01 Thread Cameron Childress
J W wrote: > We can complain when we are burned, or have the attitude that you need to > "learn your lesson and move on". The 6 million dollar question is. How do we > make it right? I would argue that the lessons to be learned have to do with: 1) How you make the decision to work with someone (o

RE: Consultant's Revenge

2008-02-01 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
Because this thread pops up every time someone gets burned. It's usually just riddled with responses of "let it go" "You will be liable", etc.. Apparently everyone is tired of saying it heh. I'm with them... by all means go ahead and put this idea into production so we all have an example of why i

Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-02-01 Thread Cameron Childress
I've said what I have to say. If you don't agree that's fine with me. Good luck with your endeavors. -Cameron J W wrote: > There still needs to be accountability on the company. > > Counterpoint #1: I disagree. How the heck do your make a decision to TRUST > someone that you barely know. Heck

Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-02-01 Thread J W
There still needs to be accountability on the company. Counterpoint #1: I disagree. How the heck do your make a decision to TRUST someone that you barely know. Heck even if you know them, trust them, they can still burn you. See "Holmes on Homes" for many examples of deception of trust. Different

RE: Consultant's Revenge

2008-02-01 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
Complacency? Not hardly, I'm just not willing to jump on one sided complaining and say "Yeah... you go get em!" I also don't care to hear the other side of the argument publicly because it just turns into back-and-forth bickering and makes both sides look stupid to people who weren't involved and d

Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-02-01 Thread J W
Don't get me mixed up with the original poster. I never said I wanted a website like that. What I did say is there has to be ACCOUNTABILITY for BOTH sides. We need to find a solution for THAT. Jeff On Feb 1, 2008 12:33 PM, Bobby Hartsfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Complacency? Not hardly, I'

Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-02-01 Thread J W
Which is fine. We agree to disagree. Likewise with yours. On Feb 1, 2008 12:15 PM, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've said what I have to say. If you don't agree that's fine with me. > Good luck with your endeavors. > > -Cameron > > J W wrote: > > There still needs to be account

Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-02-01 Thread Aaron West
> After dealing with a few too many disreputable companies, I'm just > about > ready to build a new site that is sort of a cross between > f*ckedcompany.comand ChexSystems. Why not use the Better Business Bureau? After all, their motto is "Start with Trust." If you have a bad experience with

Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-02-01 Thread Jeffry Houser
J W wrote: > Counterpoint #2: Unless you have money for a lawyer and run through small > claims, your more than likely SOL. We need more protection that just trying > to hire a lawyer. How much $$$ do you have to shell out for lawyers to MAKE > a uplholdable contract/agreement. Remember its still

Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-02-01 Thread Maureen
On Feb 1, 2008 6:35 AM, Bobby Hartsfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Seriously... learn from the experience with whoever burned you today, maybe > share your experience with some close friends and family in PRIVATE just to > get it off your chest.. and move on. That's easy to say. But I had a v

Re: Consultant's Revenge

2008-02-01 Thread Jeffry Houser
Create a filter to automatically delete posts from such a firm. At least then you won't have to deal with that stress. Maureen wrote: > On Feb 1, 2008 6:35 AM, Bobby Hartsfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Seriously... learn from the experience with whoever burned you today, maybe >> share