Re: [CF-metadata] Proposal for additional CF biogeochemistry attributes

2009-05-12 Thread Philip Cameronsmith
Hi Bruce, In the atmosphere CF has used 'mole_fraction_' to designate mole/mole quantities. Hence, perhaps we should use MOLE_FRACTION_of_nitrate_to_phosphate_in_sea_water here? The counter argument is that, in every existing CF std name I could find, mol_fraction_ is always the mole ratio

Re: [CF-metadata] Proposal for additional CF biogeochemistry attributes

2009-05-12 Thread Bruce Hackett
Hi, I was too quick in my last msg, sorry. Got to thinking about the n/p ratio and checked it out with the people who programmed it. It is the ratio of mole concentrations that we are calculating and putting into netCDF files. That's what we suggest establishing a standard_name for. Our moti

[CF-metadata] new standard name request for pH

2009-05-12 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Roy I agree with what you say. But John and his colleague tell us that it is not possible simply to describe the difference between pH total scale and sea-water scale. Like you, I suggested that they could be described as being just [H+], or the sum of [H+] and other ions, but that's not righ

Re: [CF-metadata] new standard name request for pH

2009-05-12 Thread Lowry, Roy K
Hello Jonathan/Nan, In the case of pH I am still convinced that the quantities are different. If we take an example of nitrate concentration in sea water. We would have no compunction about setting up separate Standard Names for nitrate in moles/litre and nitrate in moles/kg. Why is this dif

Re: [CF-metadata] Proposal for additional CF biogeochemistry attributes

2009-05-12 Thread Lowry, Roy K
I totally agree with Philip. Mass and mole ratios differ by a factor of the ratio of the atomic/molcular weights of the species concerned. Cheers, Roy. -Original Message- From: cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu [mailto:cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu] On Behalf Of Philip Cameronsmith1