Re: [CF-metadata] identification of vector components

2012-04-24 Thread Hedley, Mark
I have been considering Bryan's point some more: The only reason I can see here, and it seems to be the one you are espousing, is that it's a convenience for someone importing their data - they want the standard name to be the name they used to use - but why? It's rarely the case, so why

Re: [CF-metadata] identification of vector components

2012-04-24 Thread Hedley, Mark
The CF Specification (http://cf-pcmdi.llnl.gov/documents/cf-conventions/1.6/ch04s02.html) states: 'Optionally, the longitude type may be indicated additionally by providing the standard_name attribute with the value longitude, and/or the axis attribute with the value X.' Which suggests that

Re: [CF-metadata] identification of vector components

2012-04-24 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Mark I see your point of view, and when we discussed this on the phone it did not sound like a large issue to me. I agree with you that X/Y and lon/lat are related ideas in CF. However, it appears there are some concerns. As you say, as a data-producer, where the vector component is aligned

Re: [CF-metadata] identification of vector components

2012-04-24 Thread Nan Galbraith
Hi Mark and all - I think this is a perfectly reasonable proposal. Actually, I think the current wording, x indicates a vector component along the grid x-axis, when this is not true longitude' is not intended to prohibit the use of x/y terms in cases when x y are lon lat, it's there as a

Re: [CF-metadata] Comment in coordinate variables (and CF checker)

2012-04-24 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Nan I can't remember a reason why coordinate variables should not have comment, institution, source or references atts. Sect 2.6.2 just says variables can have them, not data variables specifically. I think it's just that we didn't suppose they'd be needed, but I agree, they are extra info

Re: [CF-metadata] identification of vector components

2012-04-24 Thread Hedley, Mark
Dear Jonathan et al. I appreciate the concerns and I agree that the current situation provides the information required, however I do not feel comfortable with the way it is done: I think it is open to ambiguity and I am concerned that there are multiple standard names for what I consider the

[CF-metadata] rotated pole projection

2012-04-24 Thread Don Murray
Hi- I have some climate files that have a rotated-pole projection defined as: char rotated_pole ; rotated_pole:grid_mapping_name = rotated_latitude_longitude ; rotated_pole:grid_north_pole_latitude = 90.f ;

Re: [CF-metadata] rotated pole projection

2012-04-24 Thread Burkhardt Rockel
Hi Don, this is not a problem in the grid definition, but a problem of the code. This is not just a problem in your Java code, but also in the Fortran code that is used in regional climate models (and the output files in the link you provided are from the Danish regional climate model). It may

Re: [CF-metadata] identification of vector components

2012-04-24 Thread John Caron
On 4/24/2012 4:16 AM, Hedley, Mark wrote: There are particular issue here with format interoperability and conversion with respect to phenomenon. In GRIB2, for example, there are codes which identify vector components: Wind direction (from which blowing) degree true Wind speed ms