[CF-metadata] Standard_name for cloud-cover by phenomenon

2012-04-25 Thread Heiko Klein
Hei, in grib, clouds are described as low, medium and high clouds, e.g. 73,74,75. Those are described by phenomenon, e.g. high cloud type: Clouds of genera Cirrus, Cirrocumulus and Cirrostratus. low cloud type: Clouds of genera Stratocumulus, Stratus, Cumulus, etc. medium cloud type:

Re: [CF-metadata] Standard_name for cloud-cover by phenomenon

2012-04-25 Thread David Hassell
Hello Heiko, I don't have a strong opinion, but am just testing the water ... I wonder how one would define these standard names so that they were correct for all uses, for example from a three layer model to the ISCCP datasets. In your example, would a model_level_number coordinate of [1, 2,

Re: [CF-metadata] Standard_name for cloud-cover by phenomenon

2012-04-25 Thread TOYODA Eizi
Hi Heiko, I support your proposal to add low_cloud_area_fraction, low_cloud_area_fraction, and high_cloud_area_fraction. Just for information for all: (1) There is something called high cloud etc as Heiko says. (2) It's misunderstanding that whatever cloud located in high layer becomes

Re: [CF-metadata] Standard_name for cloud-cover by phenomenon

2012-04-25 Thread TOYODA Eizi
Hello David, Cloud types (lo/mid/hi) of ISCCP described at http://isccp.giss.nasa.gov/cloudtypes.html is classification of height of cloud, observed in infrared image of satellite. Heiko is talking about cloud types of the same name, but it's NWP product. They are not necesarily matching to

Re: [CF-metadata] Standard_name for cloud-cover by phenomenon

2012-04-25 Thread Heiko Klein
Hei David, I'm not familiar with the ISCCP datasets, but in a fast look on there web-page, it seems like the have already a translation to the 3 WMO clouds: http://isccp.giss.nasa.gov/cloudtypes.html It is not that we run a 3 layer model. We compare our 20-130 layer models, and we do it on

Re: [CF-metadata] identification of vector components

2012-04-25 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Bert a) A rectangular model in some UTM coordinates (or possibly a local derivative of that) in which x for all practical purposes measures distance east and y distance north. If we take the term true longitude in the definition of x_wind loosely, then we would have to write

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-25 Thread John Caron
Hi andrew: The file you sent (20110818T001140Z_M_HI504BEN.nc) appears to be a single profile. Assuming that, you would use the following template: http://cf-pcmdi.llnl.gov/documents/cf-conventions/1.6/cf-conventions.html#idp8363696 note that lat, lon and time coordinates all have to be