[CF-metadata] standard names linked to melt ponds on sea ice

2014-02-03 Thread Siri Jodha Khalsa
Hi, My personal opinions (not those of NSIDC): In any case, I would like your advice for standardized naming of: a new area type for melt ponds. Should it be "melt_pond" or "melt_water_pond", or should it specify that this is on top of sea ice "melt_water_pond_at_top_of_sea_ice". there is some

[CF-metadata] vertical coordinates and positive attributes

2014-02-03 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Steve I agree that one can encode distances below the surface as negative and it's often done. My point is that the CF standard name of "depth" is not appropriate for such values; one should use "height" instead. The choice of which standard name to use corresponds to the choice in a mathemat

Re: [CF-metadata] vertical coordinates and positive attributes

2014-02-03 Thread Steve Hankin
Hi Jonathan, A quick message here, intended as much as anything for the email archives, to make it clear that differences of viewpoint remain about the use of negative depth values. The alternative viewpoint is that the implicit semantics in the term "depth" is its _realm_: the variable name

[CF-metadata] standard names linked to melt ponds on sea ice

2014-02-03 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Thomas > In my understanding, sea_ice_area_fraction refers to sea ice concentration as > seen "from below" (where area(ice)+area(ocean water) = area(cell)). Yes, I think so too. Sea ice with melt ponds is still sea ice. In terms of area types, sea = ice_free_sea + sea_ice. You need a new a

[CF-metadata] standard names linked to melt ponds on sea ice

2014-02-03 Thread Thomas Lavergne
Dear all, During early summer, especially in the Arctic, melt water ponds form on top of sea ice. Seen from above, there are thus 3 types of surfaces: "sea ice", "melt ponds", "ocean water" (in between the ice floes). Seen from below, there are only 2 area types: "sea ice", and "ocean water".

Re: [CF-metadata] new standard_name: sunglint_angle

2014-02-03 Thread Gary Meehan
It is my understanding that sun glint is associated with reflection of sunlight off of a body of water. I would suggest amending the definition to the following: The angle between an incident beam of solar radiation and the outgoing beam specularly reflected at a sea surface. Sincerely, Gary