Re: [CF-metadata] Standard_name proposal for volcanic ash and radioactive particles

2018-01-04 Thread Heiko Klein
Dear Jonathan and Roy, after some internal discussions, we agree to the change of the name from activity_* to radioactivity_* to make the name more universal. Concerning the names of the radionuclides, we will need to include the mass-number, since there is no other distinction. I suggest using m

Re: [CF-metadata] Standard_name proposal for volcanic ash and radioactive particles

2018-01-04 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Dear Heiko, For reference, the presentation syntax we use in the BODC parameter dictionary is of the form: Activity of polonium-210 {210Po CAS 13981-52-7} per unit dry weight of suspended particulate material by filtration and gamma spectroscopy (high-purity Ge detector) We use 'activity'

Re: [CF-metadata] Standard_name proposal for volcanic ash and radioactive particles

2018-01-04 Thread Heiko Klein
Dear Roy, I agree very much with the nomenclature used in the BODC dictionary. I would rule out a few of your options: When thinking of metastates, some cases don't work, f.e. 180mta and 180mtantalum. As you also mentioned, the number before the full-name (210-polonium) in never used, either numb

Re: [CF-metadata] Standard_name proposal for volcanic ash and radioactive particles

2018-01-04 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Dear Heiko, You're quite right. I was just thinking about the issue of metastates. Cheers, Roy. Please note that I partially retired on 01/11/2015. I am now only working 7.5 hours a week and can only guarantee e-mail response on Wednesdays, my day in the office. All vocabulary queries shoul

[CF-metadata] Standard_name proposal for volcanic ash and radioactive particles

2018-01-04 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Heiko and Roy I agree with both of you that 210Po would be best i.e. requiring case-sensitive symbols for elements. The reason that standard names are (at present) all lower case is that case-sensitivity would simply be an opportunity for people to make mistakes, while not making them any cle

Re: [CF-metadata] Standard_name proposal for volcanic ash and radioactive particles

2018-01-04 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Dear Jonathan, My case for the hyphen is that to me it's a more natural candidate as a search target. However, if we accept mixed case IUPAC symbols for isotopes then this becomes a non-issue. In my view it would be extremely unwise to allow symbols other than for isotopes as we already have

[CF-metadata] Fwd: Re: Clarifying standard names for 'mass_concentration_of_*_dry_aerosol_particles'

2018-01-04 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Daniel I see. So the new names would be of the form mass_concentration_of_ammonium_in_dry_aerosol_particles_in_air I think that might be liable to misunderstanding. It could mean the mass concentration of the ammonium within the aerosol particles, rather than within the air. Your earlier su