Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

2018-07-30 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Hear Hear!!! I have now retired but will continue to be active through an Emeritus Fellowship using this e-mail address. From: CF-metadata on behalf of Nan Galbraith Sent: 30 July 2018 19:22 To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Platform He

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

2018-07-30 Thread Nan Galbraith
Point of order! I'm in favor of less specific definitions; other attributes can be used to describe methods and ... whatever else is needed. On the other hand, planning to change a definition to something more specific at some point in the future is not good for CF. If I label something as hea

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

2018-07-30 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Hi Nan, By platform at rest I mean a situation where pitch=0, roll=0, yaw=0, heave=0 etc. I'm now seeing a tilted platform, such as an out of balance deck load, as a coupling to the next level of CRS, so your last statement is absolutely spot on. Cheers, Roy. I have now retired but will co

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

2018-07-30 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Hi Ken, You're absolutely right - should have been platform_yaw_angle. Getting the detail spot on in these things isn't easy, which is why we have discussion lists! With the way I'm currently seeing things I don't agree that pitch and roll affect the definition of heave. They are only factor

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

2018-07-30 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Hi John, Think about my last posting. Heave is only relevant to the internal platform CRS. How it couples to other CRS, such as a 3-D platform locations, may well differ for different types of platform, but that should not be a concern of the heave definition. Heave has a lot in common with

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

2018-07-30 Thread Nan Galbraith
Hi all - I like Ken K's definitions; simple and to the point;  And I agree that we need to be explicit about positive direction (which term, by the way, doesn't google well). I'm not sure I agree with Roy that 'zero is platform at rest' - could you please explain that? By 'at rest' do we mean

Re: [CF-metadata] Platform Heave

2018-07-30 Thread John Graybeal
1) Now that we have another platform_heave comment, could we please create a new thread for the discussion on pitch/roll/heading? Maybe starting without all the historical points, at least the heave-related ones? Both are difficult conversations to follow in sequence. 2) I have a concern about