Re: [CF-metadata] [netcdf-java] problem with times in PSD dataset

2012-12-06 Thread John Caron
Hi Cecelia: Thanks for this information. A few questions: * So you are not supporting standard Gregorian calendar even though thats the CF default? * Do modelers need to match historical dates? If so, what calendar do they use? * Is the time library suitable to be released seperate from

Re: [CF-metadata] [netcdf-java] problem with times in PSD dataset

2012-12-06 Thread Cecelia DeLuca
Hi John and all, Thanks for this information. A few questions: * So you are not supporting standard Gregorian calendar even though thats the CF default? Correct, the climate modelers that we work with don't use it. AFAIK the decision of CESM was to reject the CF default as unreasonable for

Re: [CF-metadata] [netcdf-java] problem with times in PSD dataset

2012-12-06 Thread Cathy Smith (NOAA Affiliate)
John There is some meteorological data that is available pre-Gregorian calendar (paleo data, some temperature datasets) and of course there are other scientific fields where data is pre-1500 (e.g. astronomy, archeology) . Given that netCDF files with data dates spanning ~1550 probably already

Re: [CF-metadata] [netcdf-java] problem with times in PSD dataset

2012-12-06 Thread John Caron
Hi Cathy: There no question that CF currently defaults to mixed gregorian calendar. The discussion is whether thats the best choice (probably not), and to advise users not to cross the discontinuity (eg store modern dates starting from 1-1-1). Im curious as to how you generate the dates

Re: [CF-metadata] [netcdf-java] problem with times in PSD dataset

2012-12-06 Thread Steve Hankin
On 12/6/2012 4:09 PM, John Caron wrote: Hi Cathy: There no question that CF currently defaults to mixed gregorian calendar. The discussion is whether thats the best choice (probably not), and to advise users not to cross the discontinuity (eg store modern dates starting from 1-1-1). Im

Re: [CF-metadata] [netcdf-java] problem with times in PSD dataset

2012-12-05 Thread Gerry Creager - NOAA Affiliate
In the last 2 years alone, I've encountered a number of datasets ranging from reanalysis to climatologies to current ocean models that do utilize date from 1-1-1. While I agree that ISO8601 is probably a better system, it's not the one a lot of applications used when they were written. I think