Re: [CF-metadata] CF-1.6 DSG clarification: time series lat/lon coordinates

2013-06-11 Thread John Caron
Hi Mark and Jonathan: I will say straight up that I dont understand the implications of this particular discussion. But in case its helpful, I have found it important to separate the data model and the encoding of the model in the netCDF file. Probably you are both already doing that, but I

Re: [CF-metadata] CF-1.6 DSG clarification: time series lat/lon coordinates

2013-06-11 Thread Hedley, Mark
...@unidata.ucar.edu] Sent: 11 June 2013 17:01 To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] CF-1.6 DSG clarification: time series lat/lon coordinates Hi Mark and Jonathan: I will say straight up that I dont understand the implications of this particular discussion. But in case its helpful, I

Re: [CF-metadata] CF-1.6 DSG clarification: time series lat/lon coordinates

2013-06-07 Thread Hedley, Mark
Hello Jonathan As a result of this discussion, it seems me that for a DSG (which is indicated by the presence of featureType), scalar coordinate variables have to be interpreted as auxiliary coordinate variables of an omitted size-one instance dimension. That is what is implied by section

Re: [CF-metadata] CF-1.6 DSG clarification: time series lat/lon coordinates | RE: scalar coordinates

2013-06-05 Thread Hedley, Mark
Hello The discussion on CF-1.6 DSG clarification: time series lat/lon coordinates provides us with further example of the use of scalar coordinates and their potential interpretation. I would like to use this to investigate the question of scalar interpretation. The conversation on this

Re: [CF-metadata] CF-1.6 DSG clarification: time series lat/lon coordinates

2013-06-05 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear John If we use the time series featureType as example (from http://cf-pcmdi.llnl.gov/documents/cf-conventions/1.6/cf-conventions.html#idp8307552) AFAIU, the orthogonal multidimensional representation would be: float humidity(station,time) not float humidity(lat, lon, time)

Re: [CF-metadata] CF-1.6 DSG clarification: time series lat/lon coordinates

2013-06-04 Thread John Caron
Hi Jonathan: On 6/4/2013 4:17 AM, Jonathan Gregory wrote: Dear John Caron and John Maurer I agree with John C that the problem arises when the coordinate variables are not size one. John M's example float lon(lon) ; float lat(lat) ; float alt(alt) ; float

Re: [CF-metadata] CF-1.6 DSG clarification: time series lat/lon coordinates

2013-06-04 Thread Jonathan Gregory
-0600 From: John Caron ca...@unidata.ucar.edu User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130509 Thunderbird/17.0.6 To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] CF-1.6 DSG clarification: time series lat/lon coordinates Hi Jonathan: On 6/4/2013

Re: [CF-metadata] CF-1.6 DSG clarification: time series lat/lon coordinates

2013-06-04 Thread John Caron
clarification: time series lat/lon coordinates Hi Jonathan: On 6/4/2013 4:17 AM, Jonathan Gregory wrote: Dear John Caron and John Maurer I agree with John C that the problem arises when the coordinate variables are not size one. John M's example float lon(lon) ; float lat

[CF-metadata] CF-1.6 DSG clarification: time series lat/lon coordinates

2013-05-29 Thread John Maurer
Hi all, We ran into a glitch after converting one of our buoys to the new CF-1.6 discrete sampling geometries (DSG) format, and I'm looking for advice. This dataset uses the single time series format, like the one provided in the template of the CF document in Example H.4:

Re: [CF-metadata] CF-1.6 DSG clarification: time series lat/lon coordinates

2013-05-29 Thread John Caron
Hi John: 1) The coordinates attribute is not new to DSG, it has been around since the beginning of CF. This defines the auxiliary coordinate variables, that is, coordinate variables that do not follow lat(lat) template. I think it would be good if Grads et al could be upgraded to use them.