[CF-metadata] cf standards for probabilities

2013-12-03 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Vegard Regarding your point (1), confidence. Could you say more precisely what you mean by "correctness"? I don't really understand the idea here, or in (3) where you use it. I am wondering if we could describe by some means other than a standard name modifier, since those appear to be proble

[CF-metadata] cf standards for probabilities

2013-11-17 Thread Vegard Bønes
Hi, all! The cf metadata standard lacks specifications for dealing with probabilities. To amend this, we would like to propose the following additions to the cf metadata standard. This proposal is largely based on an old discussion on this list, from 2011. The discussion is in the archive, with

Re: [CF-metadata] CF Standards

2011-02-24 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear all > Yes, I was confused by this for a while this morning too, because I > haven't coded the CF Checker to allow a modifier called "count" > either. > Please correct me if I'm wrong but I'm assuming that the term > "count" refers to the modifier called "|number_of_observations".| Sorry for

Re: [CF-metadata] CF Standards

2011-02-24 Thread Karl Taylor
ecause there is no bounds attribute pointing to them. They look like data variables. Best wishes Jonathan On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 09:48:21AM -0800, Karl Taylor wrote: Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 09:48:21 -0800 From: Karl Taylor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US;

Re: [CF-metadata] CF Standards

2011-02-24 Thread Karl Taylor
Dear Jonathan and all, *> I think it is wrong to add a "bounds" attribute to a formula term attached to a vertical coordinate. Only the coordinate itself should have a bounds attribute. The CF standard doesn't clarify that. It doesn't say whether formula terms can have bounds, or whether bound

Re: [CF-metadata] CF Standards

2011-02-24 Thread Rosalyn Hatcher
On 24/02/11 13:21, Michael Decker wrote: Hi all, * If the standard_name attr contains the "count" modifier, the quantity is dimensionless. The checker should take standard_name modifiers into account (Appendix C) as well as the canonical units from the standard name table (and the cell_methods)

Re: [CF-metadata] CF Standards

2011-02-24 Thread Michael Decker
Hi all, > * If the standard_name attr contains the "count" modifier, the quantity is > dimensionless. The checker should take standard_name modifiers into account > (Appendix C) as well as the canonical units from the standard name table > (and the cell_methods) when deciding what units a quantity

Re: [CF-metadata] CF Standards

2011-02-24 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Karl et al. I think there are several separate points here! * If the standard_name attr contains the "count" modifier, the quantity is dimensionless. The checker should take standard_name modifiers into account (Appendix C) as well as the canonical units from the standard name table (and the

Re: [CF-metadata] CF Standards

2011-02-24 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Brian > As an aside though, I do think there would be value in having the CF > checker be made to recognize when variables are part of the definition of a > dimensionless vertical coordinate via the formula_terms attribute. In the > example below, there are two variables called out by formul

Re: [CF-metadata] CF Standards

2011-02-24 Thread Rosalyn Hatcher
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 09:48:21AM -0800, Karl Taylor wrote: Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 09:48:21 -0800 From: Karl Taylor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 To: Kyle Olivo CC: aparna Radhakrishnan, "cf-metadata@cgd.uca

Re: [CF-metadata] CF Standards (CF checker)

2011-02-24 Thread Schultz, Martin
Dear all (and Christina in particular), if you'd like to get a second oppinion, please try the Juelich CF checker. You can either access it "graphically" through http://ogc-interface.icg.kfa-juelich.de:50080/upload (Browse for a file, click "Upload" and then click on the "log" button in the

Re: [CF-metadata] CF Standards

2011-02-23 Thread Brian Eaton
Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 06:17:01PM +, Jonathan Gregory wrote: > >>>Dear Karl et al > >>> > >>>To me it looks like the checker couldn't tell that they were bounds > >>>variables, > >>>because there is no bounds attribute pointing to

Re: [CF-metadata] CF Standards

2011-02-23 Thread Karl Taylor
han On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 09:48:21AM -0800, Karl Taylor wrote: Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 09:48:21 -0800 From: Karl Taylor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 To: Kyle Olivo CC: aparna Radhakrishnan, "cf-metadata@c

Re: [CF-metadata] CF Standards

2011-02-23 Thread Karl Taylor
aylor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 To: Kyle Olivo CC: aparna Radhakrishnan, "cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu", "Doutriaux, Charles" Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] CF Standards Hi all, If a,

Re: [CF-metadata] CF Standards

2011-02-23 Thread Karl Taylor
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 09:48:21AM -0800, Karl Taylor wrote: Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 09:48:21 -0800 From: Karl Taylor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 To: Kyle Olivo CC: aparna Radhakrishnan, "cf-metadata@cgd.

Re: [CF-metadata] CF Standards

2011-02-23 Thread Brian Eaton
ike the checker couldn't tell that they were bounds > >>variables, > >>because there is no bounds attribute pointing to them. They look like data > >>variables. > >> > >>Best wishes > >> > >>Jonathan > >> > >>

Re: [CF-metadata] CF Standards

2011-02-23 Thread Kyle Olivo
:48:21 -0800 From: Karl Taylor User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 To: Kyle Olivo CC: aparna Radhakrishnan, "cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu", "Doutriaux, Charles" Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] CF Standards

Re: [CF-metadata] CF Standards

2011-02-23 Thread Kyle Olivo
acintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 To: Kyle Olivo CC: aparna Radhakrishnan, "cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu", "Doutriaux, Charles" Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] CF Standards Hi all, If a, b, a_bnds, and b_bnds are dimensionless (

Re: [CF-metadata] CF Standards

2011-02-23 Thread Brian Eaton
:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 > > To: Kyle Olivo > > CC: aparna Radhakrishnan , > > "cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu" , "Doutriaux, > > Charles" > > Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] CF Standards > > > > Hi all, > > > >

Re: [CF-metadata] CF Standards

2011-02-23 Thread Jonathan Gregory
11 09:48:21 -0800 > From: Karl Taylor > User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; > rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 > To: Kyle Olivo > CC: aparna Radhakrishnan , > "cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu" , "Doutriaux, > Charles

Re: [CF-metadata] CF Standards

2011-02-23 Thread Karl Taylor
Hi all, If a, b, a_bnds, and b_bnds are dimensionless (and I think they are), then CF should not raise an error that "no units attribute set". Does anyone disagree? thanks, Karl On 2/23/11 6:55 AM, Kyle Olivo wrote: Hi Charles, We recently CMORized the Amon variable clw and noticed that t