Re: [CF-metadata] New UDUnits units for information: byte and octet

2015-01-08 Thread Jim Biard
-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu mailto:cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] New UDUnits units for information: byte and octet Maarten, I think I understand. You're fortunate in being grandfathered-in, so to speak. I just don't want

[CF-metadata] New UDUnits units for information: byte and octet

2015-01-08 Thread Jonathan Gregory
From: Steve Emmerson emmer...@ucar.edu To: Maarten Sneep maarten.sn...@knmi.nl CC: CF Metadata Mail List cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] New UDUnits units for information: byte and octet Maarten, I think I understand. You're fortunate in being grandfathered

Re: [CF-metadata] New UDUnits units for information: byte and octet

2015-01-08 Thread Steve Emmerson
@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] New UDUnits units for information: byte and octet Maarten, I think I understand. You're fortunate in being grandfathered-in, so to speak. I just don't want to go down the road of adding support for all kinds of different entities. I'm a bit

[CF-metadata] New UDUnits units for information: byte and octet

2015-01-07 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Maarten A mole is also a udunit, so mol m-3 and m-3 are different units, and quantities with those canonical units also have to have different standard_names. The standard_name indicates whether the quantity refers to number concentration or molar concentration. 1e15 molecules/cm2

Re: [CF-metadata] New UDUnits units for information: byte and octet

2015-01-07 Thread Maarten Sneep
On 07-01-15 16:15, Jonathan Gregory wrote: Dear Maarten A mole is also a udunit, so mol m-3 and m-3 are different units, and quantities with those canonical units also have to have different standard_names. The standard_name indicates whether the quantity refers to number concentration or molar

Re: [CF-metadata] New UDUnits units for information: byte and octet

2015-01-07 Thread Steve Emmerson
Jonathan, I think you meant to say that if a physical quantity has a different dimensionality (not unit), then we have to give it a different name. In my opinion, what's needed in this case is a package that understands co-ordinate transformations -- in order to convert, for example, values in

[CF-metadata] New UDUnits units for information: byte and octet

2015-01-07 Thread Jonathan Gregory
understood you correctly. Cheers Jonathan - Forwarded message from Maarten Sneep maarten.sn...@knmi.nl - Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2015 18:10:22 +0100 From: Maarten Sneep maarten.sn...@knmi.nl To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] New UDUnits units for information: byte

Re: [CF-metadata] New UDUnits units for information: byte and octet

2015-01-06 Thread Maarten Sneep
Sorry for the delayed reply, On 28-11-14 11:29, Jonathan Gregory wrote: Dear all I agree with Steve and Roy about this: Now UDUnits has molecule and byte. They (Steve) are receptive to well-justified proposals, so do not feel daunted in transmitting to them the suggestion for photon.

[CF-metadata] New UDUnits units for information: byte and octet

2014-11-28 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear all I agree with Steve and Roy about this: Now UDUnits has molecule and byte. They (Steve) are receptive to well-justified proposals, so do not feel daunted in transmitting to them the suggestion for photon. Adding such units is the wrong way to go about solving the problem of

Re: [CF-metadata] New UDUnits units for information: byte and octet

2014-11-27 Thread Armin Rauthe-Schöch
Dear Charlie, On 27.11.2014 03:27, Charlie Zender wrote: After some back and forth, Steve Emmerson of Unidata kindly added added support for octet and byte in UDUnits 2.2.16, released in June 2014 (same release that introduced molecule). Both byte and octet are convertible with bit:

Re: [CF-metadata] New UDUnits units for information: byte and octet

2014-11-27 Thread Maarten Sneep
On 27-11-14 12:14, Armin Rauthe-Schöch wrote: -- I'm not very familiar with UDUNITS but is there also a kilobyte which is 1024 bytes, the/another common understanding of kilo in the IT world ? Which then also would mean that mega is not 1e6 but rather 1024x1024, etc ? Probably not in UDUnits,

Re: [CF-metadata] New UDUnits units for information: byte and octet

2014-11-27 Thread Steve Emmerson
Charlie CF-Metadaters, On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 8:27 PM, Charlie Zender zen...@uci.edu wrote: Now UDUnits has molecule and byte. They (Steve) are receptive to well-justified proposals, so do not feel daunted in transmitting to them the suggestion for photon. Please don't request such units.

Re: [CF-metadata] New UDUnits units for information: byte and octet

2014-11-27 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
Emmerson [emmer...@ucar.edu] Sent: 27 November 2014 17:58 To: Charlie Zender Cc: CF Metadata Mail List Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] New UDUnits units for information: byte and octet Charlie CF-Metadaters, On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 8:27 PM, Charlie Zender zen...@uci.edumailto:zen...@uci.edu wrote

[CF-metadata] New UDUnits units for information: byte and octet

2014-11-26 Thread Charlie Zender
This may interest those who produce/analyze data and metadata concerning information itself. It was prompted by Maarten Sneep's suggestion that photon be added to UDUnits (like molecule was). I support that suggestion. A few months ago Jeff Lee and I worked to improve CF-compliance of Level 1