Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-05-01 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Andrew ERROR (4): Axis attribute is not allowed for auxillary coordinate variables. I don't get this error with the Vector approach. It looks like the checker thinks my scalar lat, lon, time are 'auxilliary coordinate variables' and axis attributes are not allowed on these. Is the

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-05-01 Thread John Caron
On 4/30/2012 8:40 PM, andrew walsh wrote: Hi John and CF-Metadata list, Based on your earlier advice I decided using the Scalar way to represent the coordinate lat, long and time rather than Vector way i.e lat(lat0, lon(lon), time(time) mainly for reason of simplicity. the correct other

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-05-01 Thread andrew walsh
: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 4:51 AM Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6 Hi. If someone chooses the scalar approach, isn't it necessary to declare the coordinates via the coordinates attribute on the measurement variables? Grace and peace, Jim Jim

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-30 Thread John Caron
On 4/29/2012 5:33 PM, andrew walsh wrote: Hi John, My responses inline below. Andrew - Original Message - From: John Caron ca...@unidata.ucar.edu To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 2:39 AM Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-30 Thread Jim Biard
To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 2:39 AM Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6 Hi Andrew: You can use a dimension=1 instead of a scalar. OK, you mean if one used the vector method. yes But you cant use lat(lat

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-30 Thread John Caron
@cgd.ucar.edu mailto:cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 2:39 AM Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6 Hi Andrew: You can use a dimension=1 instead of a scalar. OK, you mean if one used the vector method. yes But you cant use lat(lat

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-30 Thread andrew walsh
Conventions v1.6 On 4/29/2012 5:33 PM, andrew walsh wrote: Hi John, My responses inline below. Andrew - Original Message - From: John Caron ca...@unidata.ucar.edu To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 2:39 AM Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-29 Thread andrew walsh
Hi John, My responses inline below. Andrew - Original Message - From: John Caron ca...@unidata.ucar.edu To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 2:39 AM Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6 Hi Andrew: You can use a dimension

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-27 Thread andrew walsh
- From: John Caron ca...@unidata.ucar.edu To: andrew walsh awa...@metoc.gov.au Cc: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu; Luke Callcut l...@metoc.gov.au; g...@metoc.gov.au Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6 Hi andrew: The file you

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-27 Thread John Caron
To: andrew walsh awa...@metoc.gov.au Cc: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu; Luke Callcut l...@metoc.gov.au; g...@metoc.gov.au Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6 Hi andrew: The file you sent (20110818T001140Z_M_HI504BEN.nc) appears

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-25 Thread John Caron
To: andrew walsh awa...@metoc.gov.au Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2012 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6 ok On 4/4/2012 6:42 PM, andrew walsh wrote: Hi John, Thank for your offer to check a sample netCDF CTD data file. At moment we don't have some real .nc

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-18 Thread andrew walsh
05, 2012 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6 ok On 4/4/2012 6:42 PM, andrew walsh wrote: Hi John, Thank for your offer to check a sample netCDF CTD data file. At moment we don't have some real .nc file but when we do I can send you a file

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-04 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Andrew Thanks for your email. 1) What distinguishes an 'auxilliary coordinate variable' from a plain old 'coordinate variable'? A plain old coordinate variable is as defined by the Unidata netCDF user's guide. It is 1D, monotonic, and its name is the same as the name of its dimension. An

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-04 Thread andrew walsh
Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6 Hi all: Lets see, I havent followed the entire conversation, but: 1) Andrew if you can send me a sample file (not just the CDL) I can check if it works in the CDM with the new 1.6 conventions, and maybe give you some advice

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-03 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
walsh Cc: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu; sdn2-t...@seadatanet.org; g...@metoc.gov.au; Luke Callcut; Upendra Dadi Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6 Hi again, The reason that I prefer depth to pressure as the dimension for CTD is that the information required

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-03 Thread Nan Galbraith
; Luke Callcut ; g...@metoc.gov.au ; sdn2-t...@seadatanet.org Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 2:16 PM Subject: RE: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6 Hi Andrew, SeaDataNet will very soon be considering how it is going to encode data, including single CTD casts, in CF

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-03 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Andrew and Nan If your pressure isn't monotonic, and so can't be a coordinate variable, I don't know whether it's preferable to demote ALL the coordinates to auxiliary coordinate variable status, TEMPERATURE: coordinates = TIME,PRESSURE,LATITUDE,LONGITUDE ; I don't think there's a

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-03 Thread Jim Biard
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 03, 2012 9:31 AM *Subject:* RE: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6 Hi Upendra, I like the idea of a station dimension. It goes a long way to resolving the issue raised in my response to Jim which was based on the tunnel vision of having pressure

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-03 Thread Upendra Dadi
*Subject:* RE: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6 Hi Upendra, I like the idea of a station dimension. It goes a long way to resolving the issue raised in my response to Jim which was based on the tunnel vision of having

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-03 Thread John Caron
...@metoc.gov.au ; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu mailto:cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu ; sdn2-t...@seadatanet.org mailto:sdn2-t...@seadatanet.org *Sent:* Tuesday, April 03, 2012 9:31 AM *Subject:* RE: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6 Hi

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-03 Thread andrew walsh
Subject: TR: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6 Hello Roy and All, I am involved in Argo data-management, OceanSITES and the MyOcean EU project. These 3 projects are intensive users of NetCDF CTD data files. Within these communities : ยท The natural vertical

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-03 Thread andrew walsh
/down due the motion of the CTD instrument. - Original Message - From: Jonathan Gregory j.m.greg...@reading.ac.uk To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 12:47 AM Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6 Dear Andrew and Nan If your

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-03 Thread andrew walsh
, Glider and XBT instruments. Regards, Andrew - Original Message - From: Upendra Dadi To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 4:48 AM Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6 Hi, I think Jim is talking about NCML (virtual

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-02 Thread Jim Biard
Hi. Here's my best understanding (which could be flawed, so I look forward to finding out if I have missed something). Assuming that your time, latitude, and longitude are all proper coordinate variables (no fill values), either choice for the shape of your salinity variable works. If you use

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-02 Thread Upendra Dadi
Hi Andrew, Either way it should be okay as far as CF compliance is concerned. But the dimensions - latitude, longitude and time are not really required. If it is required to indicate that there is only one station(profile) in the file, there could be a dimension for number of stations instead,

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-02 Thread andrew walsh
...@metoc.gov.au ; sdn2-t...@seadatanet.org Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 2:16 PM Subject: RE: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6 Hi Andrew, SeaDataNet will very soon be considering how it is going to encode data, including single CTD casts, in CF-compliant NetCDF and so I think

Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6

2012-04-02 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
K. Cc: Jim Biard; Upendra Dadi; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu; Luke Callcut; g...@metoc.gov.au; sdn2-t...@seadatanet.org Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] Ocean CTD data following CF Conventions v1.6 Hi Roy/All, Agree totally it would be good to get this CTD netCDF done in an interoperable way. Regarding