Re: [CF-metadata] proposed standard names for Enterococcus and?Clostridium perfringens

2013-03-25 Thread Hassan Moustahfid - NOAA Federal
Hi folks. I don't know if you received what I sent early about IOOS Biological Data services termnilogy and Darwin Core standards. If you want to create your own vocab go ahead. we will keep talking to our self. I think there is now an opportunity to figure out how to talk between CF and Darwin Co

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed standard names for Enterococcus and?Clostridium perfringens

2013-03-25 Thread Jim Biard
Hi. This sounds like a good plan. I think there should be an attribute with a specific name to carry the taxonomic details. It probably will occur in the long name as well, but I don't like the idea of making the long name the "official" repository for that information. It's not my arena, so

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed standard names for Enterococcus and?Clostridium perfringens

2013-03-25 Thread John Graybeal
+1 Nan, great summary CF should prepare for the day when it needs to interoperate with multiple authorities, e.g., 2 different species vocabularies. It will not be possible for one vocabulary to serve all the scientific needs. We are on the right track here, let's see if we can solve the whol

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed standard names for Enterococcus and?Clostridium perfringens

2013-03-25 Thread Hassan Moustahfid - NOAA Federal
taking this forward through a Trac ticket. > > Cheers, Roy. > > > > > From: CF-metadata [cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu] On Behalf Of > Jonathan Gregory [j.m.greg...@reading.ac.uk] > Sent: 25 March 2013 09:00 > To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.e

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed standard names for Enterococcus and?Clostridium perfringens

2013-03-25 Thread Nan Galbraith
Hi all - Species taxonomies are not like chemical vocabularies, in that terms for organisms change over time. There are some big projects involved in maintaining these taxonomies, and we probably don't want to commit to launching a parallel effort. The ubio project has a decent description of th

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed standard names for Enterococcus and?Clostridium perfringens

2013-03-25 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Roy I think it would be fine and preferable to use someone else's controlled vocabulary so long as it has an appropriate format and content and/or we can define rules for using it in CF. Best wishes Jonathan ___ CF-metadata mailing list CF-metadat

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed standard names for Enterococcus and?Clostridium perfringens

2013-03-25 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
han Gregory [j.m.greg...@reading.ac.uk] Sent: 25 March 2013 09:00 To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] proposed standard names for Enterococcus and?Clostridium perfringens Dear all I agree with Philip that cfu should be spelled out. I was also going to make the same point

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed standard names for Enterococcus and?Clostridium perfringens

2013-03-25 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear all I agree with Philip that cfu should be spelled out. I was also going to make the same point about Roy's proposal being different from our treatment of chemical species, which are encoded in the standard name; this system seems to be working. One reason for keeping this approach was the "g

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed standard names for Enterococcus and Clostridium perfringens

2013-03-22 Thread Steve Emmerson
On 03/22/2013 03:57 AM, Lowry, Roy K. wrote: > An additional point is that I would prefer not to have the semantics of > what was measured encoded into the units of measure. I couldn't agree more. The NIST also agrees. See sections 7.4 and 7.5 of . -

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed standard names for Enterococcus and Clostridium perfringens

2013-03-22 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
21 March 2013 20:12 To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: [CF-metadata] proposed standard names for Enterococcus and Clostridium perfringens Aloha CF group, I would like to propose the following standard names related to water quality measurements of the bacteria Enterococcus and Clost

Re: [CF-metadata] proposed standard names for Enterococcus and Clostridium perfringens

2013-03-22 Thread Steve Emmerson
On 03/21/2013 02:12 PM, John Maurer wrote: > I believe the > canonical units in UDUNITS parlance would translate to "m-3", which is > what I find in the standard name table for other number_concentration_* > quantities. Yup. If the dimension of the physical quantity is number per volume, then the

[CF-metadata] proposed standard names for Enterococcus and Clostridium perfringens

2013-03-21 Thread John Maurer
Aloha CF group, I would like to propose the following standard names related to water quality measurements of the bacteria *Enterococcus *and *Clostridium perfringens*: number_concentration_of_enterococcus_in_sea_water number_concentration_of_clostridium_perfringens_in_sea_water These are normall