Re: [CF-metadata] standard names for stations

2011-09-16 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Nan, John, Jeff I think variable attributes are generally better than global attributes, because it's possible or indeed likely that you might have data from different sources in the same file. I prefer data variables to describe themselves. We can provide global attributes as a default for

Re: [CF-metadata] standard names for stations

2011-09-16 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
code to parse the string infinitely easier. Cheers, Roy. -Original Message- From: cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu [mailto:cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu] On Behalf Of Jonathan Gregory Sent: 16 September 2011 15:32 To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] standard names

Re: [CF-metadata] standard names for stations

2011-09-16 Thread Kennedy, Paul
...@cgd.ucar.edu cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu To: Jonathan Gregory j.m.greg...@reading.ac.uk; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Sent: Fri Sep 16 23:13:56 2011 Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] standard names for stations Hi Jonathan, My vote would go to something that is both human

Re: [CF-metadata] standard names for stations

2011-09-16 Thread John Caron
Heres a few comments on this discussion from my POV: 1) to summarize whats already in CF1.6: section A9.2: It is strongly recommended that there should be a station variable (which may be of any type) with the attribute cf_role=”timeseries_id”, whose values uniquely identify the stations. It

Re: [CF-metadata] standard names for stations

2011-09-15 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Jeff platform_primary_id: variable of character type containing an ID or name of an observing station or other platform platform_primary_id_authority: variable of character type, specifying the naming authority or system used to choose platform_primary_id platform_secondary_id:

Re: [CF-metadata] standard names for stations

2011-09-15 Thread John Graybeal
Refining Jonathan's point, though I too would accept the original: I like the concept of merging, though merging the authority and the ID per the example makes it more likely that only a human can process the identifier (where does the authority stop and the identifier start?). The world of the

Re: [CF-metadata] standard names for stations

2011-09-15 Thread Nan Galbraith
Since we're storing station information in a variable, would it be more normal to use variable attributes for naming authority, description, and (optionally) naming_authority_reference (for URLS)? Also, I have to admit that it might be going overboard to have a standard name or set of standard

Re: [CF-metadata] standard names for stations

2011-09-14 Thread John Graybeal
] standard names for stations Dear Nan Do we need to specify whether the _id is numeric or character? I'd prefer to leave that to the user and his code. Yes, I think we have to specify this for standard_names; in the standard name table, all of them are either assigned units = numeric

Re: [CF-metadata] standard names for stations (Jonathan Gregory)

2011-09-06 Thread Schultz, Martin
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 10:33:26 +0100 From: Jonathan Gregory j.m.greg...@reading.ac.uk Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] standard names for stations Dear Nan Do we need to specify whether the _id is numeric or character? I'd prefer to leave that to the user and his code. Yes, I think we have

Re: [CF-metadata] standard names for stations

2011-08-31 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear Nan Do we need to specify whether the _id is numeric or character? I'd prefer to leave that to the user and his code. Yes, I think we have to specify this for standard_names; in the standard name table, all of them are either assigned units = numeric, or stated to be string. Of course, a

Re: [CF-metadata] standard names for stations

2011-08-29 Thread Nan Galbraith
. Painter [paint...@llnl.gov] Sent: 27 August 2011 01:27 To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] standard names for stations It seems to me that we would need four standard_names to satisfy everyone's needs. How does this sound? platform_name: variable of character type containing

Re: [CF-metadata] standard names for stations

2011-08-27 Thread Lowry, Roy K.
-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu [cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu] On Behalf Of Jeffrey F. Painter [paint...@llnl.gov] Sent: 27 August 2011 01:27 To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] standard names for stations It seems to me that we would need four standard_names to satisfy everyone's

Re: [CF-metadata] standard names for stations

2011-08-26 Thread Øystein Godøy
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 16:26:55 -0700 From: Jeffrey F. Painter paint...@llnl.gov Subject: [CF-metadata] standard names for stations To: cf-metadata cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Message-ID: 4e5588bf.2090...@llnl.gov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed The draft version

Re: [CF-metadata] standard names for stations

2011-08-25 Thread Renata McCoy
There is also a 'station_name' as recommended attribute in a discrete geometries section, see http://cf-pcmdi.llnl.gov/documents/cf-conventions/1.6/aphs02.html/ and even more info on the station (like station_info anf station_elevation) in the Example H.3. Timeseries of station data

Re: [CF-metadata] standard names for stations

2011-08-25 Thread TOYODA Eizi
: [CF-metadata] standard names for stations good point - The auxiliary coordinate variable station_name in these examples is missing a standard_name; and indeed station_description or station_name would fit the bill. I'd be happy with either or both. For that matter, if one of the stations

[CF-metadata] standard names for stations

2011-08-24 Thread Jeffrey F. Painter
The draft version 1.6 of the CF Conventions manual recommends use of two standard names which don't exist yet but are needed to describe discrete data such as observations from stations or other discrete points. So I'd like to propose the following two standard names: - station_description :