Re: [CF-metadata] the need to store lat/lon coordinates in a CF-compliant netCDF file

2011-08-04 Thread Heiko Klein
Dear Phil, a programmer has usually to decide if he accepts 'minor' problems with the input or not. A program-user usually selects the program which accepts most input. So a CF-processing program not accepting a dataset without datum won't get very popular. Of course, a program allowing the

Re: [CF-metadata] the need to store lat/lon coordinates in a CF-compliant netCDF file

2011-08-04 Thread Heiko Klein
Jon, just to make you think twice: How will ncWMS display data without datum? Using netcdf-java's default? I think 1) and 2) are both valid and I propose a something like: All geo-data must come with the best datum information. Missing ellipsoid-information will be interpreted as 3671km

Re: [CF-metadata] the need to store lat/lon coordinates in a CF-compliant netCDF file

2011-08-04 Thread Jonathan Gregory
Dear all I agree with Balaji about this: It is perfectly possible to configure a GCM out of components with inconsistent datums. ... I still feel my principal objection to specifying the datum is the implication of precision that does not exist. This kind of argument may apply more to models,

Re: [CF-metadata] the need to store lat/lon coordinates in a CF-compliant netCDF file

2011-08-04 Thread Jon Blower
Gregory Sent: 04 August 2011 08:23 To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] the need to store lat/lon coordinates in a CF-compliant netCDF file Dear all I agree with Balaji about this: It is perfectly possible to configure a GCM out of components with inconsistent datums

Re: [CF-metadata] the need to store lat/lon coordinates in a CF-compliant netCDF file

2011-08-04 Thread Upendra Dadi
wishes, Jon -Original Message- From: cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu [mailto:cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu] On Behalf Of Jonathan Gregory Sent: 04 August 2011 08:23 To: cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] the need to store lat/lon coordinates in a CF-compliant netCDF

Re: [CF-metadata] the need to store lat/lon coordinates in a CF-compliant netCDF file

2011-08-03 Thread John Caron
On 8/3/2011 8:19 AM, Jon Blower wrote: Hi all, I've been following this thread with great interest. For me it boils down to this question: - Is the datum always known by the data provider? If the answer is yes then I see no reason to omit the datum (and plenty of reasons to include it).

Re: [CF-metadata] the need to store lat/lon coordinates in a CF-compliant netCDF file

2011-08-03 Thread David Blodgett
Correction to the datum/ellipsoid explanation below. The NAD83 datum does use the GRS80 ellipsoid. The NAD27 datum uses the Clarke 1866 ellipsoid. Woops! Dave On Aug 3, 2011, at 9:07 AM, David Blodgett wrote: Dear Phil, I would have thought that if a particular piece of data analysis is

Re: [CF-metadata] the need to store lat/lon coordinates in a CF-compliant netCDF file

2011-08-03 Thread Jon Blower
-Original Message- From: Bentley, Philip [mailto:philip.bent...@metoffice.gov.uk] Sent: 03 August 2011 16:18 To: Jon Blower; cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu Subject: RE: [CF-metadata] the need to store lat/lon coordinates in a CF-compliant netCDF file Hi Jon, I've been following this thread

Re: [CF-metadata] the need to store lat/lon coordinates in a CF-compliant netCDF file

2011-08-03 Thread Upendra . Dadi
Hi, - Original Message - From: Bentley, Philip philip.bent...@metoffice.gov.uk Date: Wednesday, August 3, 2011 11:17 am Subject: Re: [CF-metadata] the need to store lat/lon coordinates in a CF-compliant netCDF file Hi Jon, I've been following this thread with great interest