(ot) Fed Reserve Hack

2013-02-07 Thread Che Vilnonis
With all of the talk of CF & security I thought I'd pass this along. According to Chris Wysopal of VeraCode, the site was running Coldfusion. https://www.veracode.com/blog/2013/02/stolen-data-headers-from-the-federal-r eserve-hack/ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/05/federal-reserve-securit

Re: (ot) Fed Reserve Hack

2013-02-07 Thread Russ Michaels
some more great publicity for Adobe/CF On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Che Vilnonis wrote: > > With all of the talk of CF & security I thought I'd pass this along. > According to Chris Wysopal of VeraCode, the site was running Coldfusion. > > > https://www.veracode.com/blog/2013/02/stolen-data

Re: (ot) Fed Reserve Hack

2013-02-07 Thread Wil Genovese
This goes to show the poor quality of coders in the Government more than weaknesses in ColdFusion. Same for SysAdmins that fail to follow the lock down procedures. Any web application can be poorly written and any server can be poorly administered. Wil Genovese Sr. Web Application Developer/

Re: (ot) Fed Reserve Hack

2013-02-07 Thread Russ Michaels
Govt generally don't have their own coders, they outsource everything to agencies, who then outsource to contractors, and nothing is checked by anyone in between. Regards Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine

Re: (ot) Fed Reserve Hack

2013-02-07 Thread Wil Genovese
I don't know about the pay level at the Federal level. I saw a posting for ColdFusion jobs with the State on MN (where I live) a couple years back and it was so far underpaid that I cannot imagine even a fresh newbie wanting to work at that scale. MN does hire it's on coders so thats why I thou

Re: (ot) Fed Reserve Hack

2013-02-07 Thread Marty Franklin
Wow, that's a really scarey thought! On 2/7/2013 1:00 PM, Russ Michaels wrote: > Govt generally don't have their own coders, they outsource everything to > agencies, who then outsource to contractors, and nothing is checked by > anyone in between. > > Regards > Russ Michaels > www.michaels.me.uk

Re: (ot) Fed Reserve Hack

2013-02-07 Thread Matthew Williams
Most of the Fed I've worked with, the coders are pretty exclusively contractors on the CF side. From talk of those that have been here a fairly long time, this started when the vast majority of the Fed were turned private way back in the day in order to "save money". But, like many ideas in t

Re: (ot) Fed Reserve Hack

2013-02-07 Thread Russ Michaels
And people wonder why hackers keep getting in and stealing data lol. Regards Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine On Feb 7, 2013 8:13 PM, "Matthew Williams" wrote: > > Most of the Fed I've worked with, the

Re: (ot) Fed Reserve Hack

2013-02-07 Thread Andrew Scott
I think it is sometimes unfair to blame ColdFusion 100% of the time, some of these administrators may have other technologies that are installed and never patched, which can expose ColdFusion and other languages running on the server. But if it was ColdFusion that was hacked or an exploit in Cold

Re: (ot) Fed Reserve Hack

2013-02-07 Thread Russ Michaels
I think that is what was being implied anyway in previous replies, that it isn't just cf that is to blame. Regards Russ Michaels www.michaels.me.uk www.cfmldeveloper.com - Free CFML hosting for developers www.cfsearch.com - CF search engine On Feb 7, 2013 10:31 PM, "Andrew Scott" wrote: > > I t

Re: (ot) Fed Reserve Hack

2013-02-07 Thread Maureen
The Fed does use contractors but the background check is extensive, and the access to the banking systems are very closely guarded. They do have some Coldfusion sites, mostly forward facing and not connected to secure areas of the bank. This hack looks like it hit an email alert system for disas

Re: (ot) Fed Reserve Hack

2013-02-08 Thread Cameron Childress
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 9:02 PM, Maureen wrote: > The Fed does use contractors but the background check is extensive, and > the access to the banking systems are very closely guarded. Many of the ColdFusion developers at the Fed are full time. Of those who I know personally, they are definitely

Re: (ot) Fed Reserve Hack

2013-02-08 Thread Dan Crouch
Having worked for the Federal Reserve as a full time CF developer and also currently working as a federal software developer (not using CF), I just wanted to clarify something. The Federal Reserve is not a federal agency, with the exception being the Federal Reserve Board of Governors. All of t