Thank you for taking the time to reply to this thread, hopefully all those
who read this can benefit.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Jeremy Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 9:41 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Jsp Vs Cfm (CFMX) -- Test Code


Native compilation of a Java class is completely different from JIT which is
different from straight interpretation. Ideally when a method is called it
is compiled just in time to native instructions and then the native
instructions are executed, this can often be faster, even on a first run,
than interpreting the corresponding bytecode. There are various other
strategies, but generally the goal of JIT is to have all of the code that is
executing JIT compiled. HotSpot technology even does profiling and
optimization above and beyond just making instructions native. So I think it
is rather unfair to make off the cuff, unvalidated, statements about whether
or not C# has the potential to execute faster. We are all rational beings
here, we should be making decisions on proof and empirical data gathered
from unbiased sources. Otherwise we really have nothing to go on above and
beyond conceptual level details. And at a conceptual level neither method of
execution holds an edge since we are still going to end up with wholly or
almost wholly native instructions.

So lets be informed and well thought before speaking about things. It takes
very little effort to learn about some of this stuff at a very
high/conceptual level, so I am rather ashamed to see so much misinformation
floating around this thread.  Asking questions I can understand, but making
offhand statements on a clearly unfounded basis is not proper IMO. I think
when we are discussing issues of this nature one bit of misinformation can
lead people VERY far astray.  No one should ever take anything at face value
without some sort of validation (as far as it is reasonable to validate).
But that still does not mean making blatantly incorrect statements and
assumptions is the way to go.

Jeremy


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