On Thursday 15 Jan 2004 15:54 pm, Christian Cantrell wrote:
On Thursday, January 15, 2004, at 10:14AM, Thomas Chiverton wrote:
A version of Central that allowed you to specify your own application
'store'
would be great !
We've actually heard this a lot
I thought you might have.
In
On Wednesday, January 14, 2004, at 11:07AM, Bryan F. Hogan wrote:
What I want to do is
replicate, my existing intranet's in flash, create a projector, install
it on a users desktop and automatically pull data from my server, no
html, no dhtml, no _javascript_, etc. Multiple clients, one app.
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From: Christian Cantrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 9:58 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Flash for Developers/Programmers WAS: Flash Remoting with
Blue Dragon
On Wednesday, January 14, 2004, at 11:07AM, Bryan F. Hogan wrote:
I recommend that anyone considering
On Thursday 15 Jan 2004 15:02 pm, Bryan F. Hogan wrote:
application. Not a shared shell. I think others may feel the same way.
:nods
A version of Central that allowed you to specify your own application 'store'
would be great !
--
Tom Chiverton
Advanced ColdFusion Programmer
Tel: +44(0)1749
On Thursday, January 15, 2004, at 10:14AM, Thomas Chiverton wrote:
A version of Central that allowed you to specify your own application
'store'
would be great !
We've actually heard this a lot and it has given us some ideas.It's
great feedback.Thanks.
Christian
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On Thursday 15 Jan 2004 15:29 pm, Clint Tredway wrote:
The shared shell has kept me from using Central because the apps that I
build cannot be shared for security reasons..
I would expect any decent shared shell to enfore strict sepeartion of apps, so
that shouldn't be an issue...
--
Tom
On Tuesday, January 13, 2004, at 01:22PM, Bryan F. Hogan wrote:
Everytime I'm about ready to pick up on using Flash something else
tells
me not too. SOAP and Flash almost had me convinced on starting to use
Flash, then I hear something like this.
I certainly didn't intend to discourage the
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Subject: Re: Flash for Developers/Programmers WAS: Flash Remoting with
Blue Dragon
I certainly didn't intend to discourage the use of Flash!I think
these types of issues are to be expected when working with such new
technology.Fortunately, if you know where to look, you can learn
much more time to spend sniffing
around the bush if you know what I mean before I start. :-)
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From: Christian Cantrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 9:10 AM
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: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 11:02 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Flash for Developers/Programmers WAS: Flash Remoting with
Blue Dragon
Flash apps have their place, and they are not websites.
For example, I just rebuilt my companies intranet that was Classic
ASP/DHTML to Flash MX 2004/CFMX with the frontend
On Wednesday 14 Jan 2004 16:07 pm, Bryan F. Hogan wrote:
In this case, RIA's are required 100%. This can be done, but there is
just more work to do with a getting a flash form to work like an html
form than it's worth at the moment.
Rather than complain, why not set about writing some updated
Remoting with
Blue Dragon
On Wednesday 14 Jan 2004 16:07 pm, Bryan F. Hogan wrote:
In this case, RIA's are required 100%. This can be done, but there is
just more work to do with a getting a flash form to work like an html
form than it's worth at the moment.
Rather than complain, why not set about
Give openamf.org a go. Solves all these issues you mention.
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From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: January 13, 2004 10:56 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Flash Remoting with Blue Dragon
Depends on how you look at portable. At the end of the day a Flash
app
mention.
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From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: January 13, 2004 10:56 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Flash Remoting with Blue Dragon
Depends on how you look at portable. At the end of the day a Flash
app
can only access a server resource if it resides
Remoting with Blue Dragon
Depends on how you look at portable. At the end of the day a Flash
app
can only access a server resource if it resides on the same server as
the published SWF file or if crossdomain.xml allows it. If you have
access to the server it really only makes sense
, 2004 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: Flash Remoting with Blue Dragon
Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see anything like an open source
implementation of AMF, which is what I assumed I would find given the
domain name. What am I supposed to find there?
-Matt
On Jan 13, 2004, at 5:40 PM, Brian LeRoux
. Solves all these issues you mention.
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From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: January 13, 2004 10:56 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Flash Remoting with Blue Dragon
Depends on how you look at portable. At the end of the day a
Flash
app
http://sourceforge.net/projects/openamf/
-Stace
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From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2004 1:51 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Flash Remoting with Blue Dragon
Sounds good, where can I find it? Maybe the Flash on that site was too
much for me, but I just
Matt try out these:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/openamf/
http://www.carbonfive.com/opensource-main-1.html
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From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: January 14, 2004 10:51 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Flash Remoting with Blue Dragon
Sounds good, where can I
looking into these options now.
John Burns
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From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 5:16 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Flash Remoting with Blue Dragon
http://www.flashorb.com/articles/soap_vs_flash_remoting_benchmark.shtm
l
Subject: Re: Flash Remoting with Blue Dragon
http://www.flashorb.com/articles/soap_vs_flash_remoting_benchmark.shtm
l
Unfortunately, it seems like they forgot to consider HTTP compression
They didn't forget... the purposely excluded it. Otherwise their
argument would fall on its face
On Tuesday, January 13, 2004, at 10:22AM, Burns, John wrote:
I haven't gotten into this a lot, but is the HTTP compression of soap
an
option in Flash? Their argument with the memory leak information
seemed
like it was pretty solidly based. I'm assuming that's just a Flash
player issue?
3. I have found Flash Remoting and AMF to be more robust than the
web
service implementations I have used.I have forced myself to use web
services in newer projects rather than Flash Remoting just to get the
experience, and I have found bugs in both the Flash implementation and
in Apache
Such is life. It is generally a requirement to be familiar with any two
technologies that one wants to integrate before attempting to integrate
them. Flash and CFML is no different. I always got around my lack of
Flash experience by just hiring the best Flash people I could find.
-Matt
On Jan
1. SOAP is obviously an open format and will make your projects more
portable.For some, that's an important consideration, and for some,
it's not.
Depends on how you look at portable. At the end of the day a Flash app
can only access a server resource if it resides on the same server as
the
Depends on how you look at portable. At the end of the day a Flash
app
can only access a server resource if it resides on the same server as
the published SWF file or if crossdomain.xml allows it. If you have
access to the server it really only makes sense to take advantage of
the
At 11:34 AM 1/7/4, Matt Liotta wrote:
there is no reason to use Flash Remoting anymore since Flash 7
supports web services.
Sorry I'm late, but binary formats are fast. They complement SOAP and
services: universality vs efficiency. (No idea on a Blue Dragon gateway,
sorry.)
jd
John Dowdell,
John Dowdell wrote:
At 11:34 AM 1/7/4, Matt Liotta wrote:
there is no reason to use Flash Remoting anymore since Flash 7
supports web services.
Sorry I'm late, but binary formats are fast. They complement SOAP and
services: universality vs efficiency. (No idea on a Blue Dragon gateway,
Has anybody ever benchmarked Flash Remoting
against both normal and gzip'ed webservices?
I am not into Flash but maybe this may be a start point:
http://www.flashorb.com/articles/soap_vs_flash_remoting_benchmark.shtml
Unfortunately, it seems like they forgot to consider HTTP compression
Why are binary formats so fast? Data size or parsing efficiency
on the recipient? Has anybody ever benchmarked Flash Remoting
against both normal and gzip'ed webservices?
Binary formats are generally less verbose than human readable formats.
Obviously, there can thus be space savings, which
http://www.flashorb.com/articles/soap_vs_flash_remoting_benchmark.shtml
Unfortunately, it seems like they forgot to consider HTTP compression
They didn't forget... the purposely excluded it. Otherwise their
argument would fall on its face.
-Matt
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New Atlanta Communications, LLC
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From: Burns, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 2:41 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Flash Remoting with Blue Dragon
Any idea when Blue Dragon
Is it possible to use Flash Remoting with Blue Dragon?I know there is
a remoting gateway install for asp and the default one comes with CFMX,
but is this something that Blue Dragon cannot replicate due to licensing
or will one of the Macromedia ones work with it?I'm just curious if
Blue Dragon can
Remoting really isn't required to integrate with Flash... check out
http://www.turnkey.to/talkontap -- that chat room works with CF5, no
remoting there.
Is it possible to use Flash Remoting with Blue Dragon?I
know there is
a remoting gateway install for asp and the default one
comes with CFMX
, January 07, 2004 2:11 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Flash Remoting with Blue Dragon
Remoting really isn't required to integrate with Flash... check out
http://www.turnkey.to/talkontap -- that chat room works with CF5, no
remoting there.
Is it possible to use Flash Remoting with Blue Dragon?I know
publishing web services using CFCs, so you can certainly
have Flash talk to your CF application using web services.
Matt Liotta
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.MontaraSoftware.com
On Jan 7, 2004, at 9:53 AM, Burns, John wrote:
Is it possible to use Flash Remoting with Blue Dragon? I know
Any idea when Blue Dragon 6.1 will have a final release and what the pricing will be like?
John
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From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 2:34 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Flash Remoting with Blue Dragon
It depends on how you want
when Blue Dragon 6.1 will have a final release and what the
pricing will be like?
John
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From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 2:34 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Flash Remoting with Blue Dragon
It depends on how you want
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