Flex / Coldfusion question...

2006-07-06 Thread Will Tomlinson
I just spoke with a friend that said they knew someone who just bought Flex, then returned it because they couldn't figure it out. I know this person doesn't have CF installed. At CFUNITED, Flex was presented as something that just replaces HTML, and it still needs CF server to interact with d

Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...

2006-07-06 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
AIL PROTECTED]> To: CF-Talk Sent: Thu Jul 06 23:19:17 2006 Subject: Flex / Coldfusion question... I just spoke with a friend that said they knew someone who just bought Flex, then returned it because they couldn't figure it out. I know this person doesn't have CF installed. At

Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...

2006-07-06 Thread Will Tomlinson
>Yes you can use it on it's own. Like, how? And why is CF not mentioned anywhere on the adobe site? http://www.adobe.com/products/flex/productinfo/systemreqs/ Thanks, Will ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link

RE: Flex / Coldfusion question...

2006-07-06 Thread Brad Wood
July 06, 2006 5:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Flex / Coldfusion question... I just spoke with a friend that said they knew someone who just bought Flex, then returned it because they couldn't figure it out. I know this person doesn't have CF installed. At CFUNITED, Flex was presented as som

RE: Flex / Coldfusion question...

2006-07-06 Thread Ian Skinner
Flex can be used standalone if you aren't using data at all. You can connect Flex to data back-ends with xml, web-services, the additional Flex Data Services component (a J2EE application) OR ColdFusion/Flash Remoting. So there is much that can be done with Flex without ColdFusion. Alternativel

RE: Flex / Coldfusion question...

2006-07-06 Thread Munson, Jacob
It is just an interface building language. Can you write a standalone HTML app, or do you have to have CF for that to work? It's the same idea. > -Original Message- > From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 4:26 PM > > >Yes you can use it on it's

Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...

2006-07-06 Thread Will Tomlinson
Good stuff! This definitely helps! Thanks much, Will ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:245625 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/list

Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...

2006-07-06 Thread Denny Valliant
On 7/6/06, Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At CFUNITED, Flex was presented as something that just replaces HTML, and > it still needs CF server to interact with db's and such. Is this all it > does? Pretty much. It's a font end / remote interface to X (X being Java, CF, ASP, etc

Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...

2006-07-06 Thread Will Tomlinson
K gotcha! Thanks! Will ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:245627 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe:

Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...

2006-07-06 Thread Rick Root
Will Tomlinson wrote: > > Like, how? And why is CF not mentioned anywhere on the adobe site? > > http://www.adobe.com/products/flex/productinfo/systemreqs/ CF isn't mentioned as a requirement for a very simple reason. CF isn't required. Flex apps can interact with all kinds of external data, i

Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...

2006-07-06 Thread Casey Dougall
Get out your actionscript 3.0 books boys and girls, there are some "wizzards" but you'll still need to have some flash skills to make anything really cool. -- Casey Dougall Web Applications Developer Ph: 518 743-9424 Fax: 743-0337 Mannix Marketing Inc. 33 Park St. Third Floor, Glens Falls, New

Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...

2006-07-06 Thread James Holmes
The easiet way to work out flex is to dowload the free trial and try it. Work through the getting started tutorial - build the rss reader, for example. On 7/7/06, Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just spoke with a friend that said they knew someone who just bought Flex, > then return

Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...

2006-07-06 Thread Aaron Rouse
What is a good AS 3.0 book for a beginner? On 7/6/06, Casey Dougall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Get out your actionscript 3.0 books boys and girls, there are some > "wizzards" but you'll still need to have some flash skills to make > anything > really cool. > > -- > Casey Dougall > Web Applicat

Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...

2006-07-06 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
te at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: Casey Dougall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: CF-Talk Sent: Fri Jul 07 00:53:51 2006 Subject: Re: Flex / Coldfusion question... Get out your actionscript 3.0 books boys and girls, there are some "wizzards" but you'll still ne

Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...

2006-07-07 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Thursday 06 July 2006 23:45, Denny Valliant wrote: > Pretty much. It's a font end / remote interface to X (X being Java, CF, > ASP, etc heck, flat files even). I think. I may be mixing openlaszlo > in there too, but close enough, I figure. It's an interface above all > else. The way I se

Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...

2006-07-07 Thread Will Tomlinson
> The way I see it, what CFML did for HTML, Flex does for Flash. > But now you're mixin me up. You're comparing CFML to something that's presentation only. Will ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages o

Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...

2006-07-07 Thread Will Tomlinson
And how can you get away with building a Flex ecommerce app when it won't be indexed by search engines? How would I ever explain that one to a client? Will ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-h

Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...

2006-07-07 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Friday 07 July 2006 10:27, Will Tomlinson wrote: > But now you're mixin me up. You're comparing CFML to something that's > presentation only. CFML is a presentation layer with cool integration with databases (I'm speaking roughly here, with as broad a brush as I can find :-) ), that renders t

Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...

2006-07-07 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Friday 07 July 2006 10:29, Will Tomlinson wrote: > won't > be indexed by search engines? Only if you build it so that it wont be. Typically, having a 'gateway' HTML page, or a Flash wrapper page with decent META tags will sort you out. -- Tom Chiverton *

RE: Flex / Coldfusion question...

2006-07-07 Thread Hugo Ahlenius
| Only if you build it so that it wont be. | Typically, having a 'gateway' HTML page, or a Flash wrapper page with | decent META tags will sort you out. What do you base that on? Should each product have a gateway page then? /Hugo ###This message has been s

Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...

2006-07-07 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Friday 07 July 2006 11:03, Hugo Ahlenius wrote: > What do you base that on? Should each product have a gateway page then? Depends if you want your whole product catalogue indexed or not. It's not like you need generate them by hand. -- Tom Chiverton **

Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...

2006-07-07 Thread Rick Root
Tom Chiverton wrote: > > CFML is a presentation layer with cool integration with databases (I'm > speaking roughly here, with as broad a brush as I can find :-) ), that > renders to HTML. > MXML is a presentation layer with cool integration to remote services, that > renders to Flash. Neither

Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...

2006-07-07 Thread Denny Valliant
On 7/6/06, Rick Root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Neither. CFML and MXML are languages used to CREATE presentation > layers. HTML and SWF movies are the "presentation layer", not the > languages used to generate them. Especially since the CFML runs on the > server, not on the client. I thi

Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...

2006-07-07 Thread Will Tomlinson
Dangit! Just dloaded a couple hundred megs of flex software, and I'm gettin "executable has been corrupted" errors. UGH! ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion infor

Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...

2006-07-07 Thread Paul Ihrig
i cant get any thing to work in flex 2.0 either. feel like kicking my pc out the window. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to

Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...

2006-07-07 Thread Denny Valliant
I'm still running the release candidate, but I didn't have much trouble with it. Are you both getting the same error? On 7/7/06, Paul Ihrig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > i cant get any thing to work in flex 2.0 either. > feel like kicking my pc out the window. > > ~

Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...

2006-07-07 Thread Will Tomlinson
>i cant get any thing to work in flex 2.0 either. >feel like kicking my pc out the window. Here's the error I'm getting when I try installing Flex. "The contents of this file cannot be unpacked. The executable you are attemtting to run has been corrupted. Please obtain another copy of the file,

Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...

2006-07-07 Thread Denny Valliant
Prolly download again. Seems to work fine for me. Did you use an download accelerator? Those can be wonky sometimes... On 7/7/06, Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >i cant get any thing to work in flex 2.0 either. > >feel like kicking my pc out the window. > > Here's the error I'm g

Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...

2006-07-08 Thread Will Tomlinson
>Prolly download again. Seems to work fine for me. Did you use an download >accelerator? Those can be wonky sometimes... Yep that worked. Got it all installed, but it asked me if I wanted to install the cf extensions, I followed the instructions, and the zip it told me to use wasn't there. I

Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...

2006-07-08 Thread Denny Valliant
If I'm remembering right, the new 7.02 updater has the flex extensions built-in, so I was wondering if that's still necessary? On 7/8/06, Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >Prolly download again. Seems to work fine for me. Did you use an > download > >accelerator? Those can be wonk

Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...

2006-07-10 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Saturday 08 July 2006 20:13, Denny Valliant wrote: > If I'm remembering right, the new 7.02 updater has the flex extensions > built-in, > so I was wondering if that's still necessary? > > CF_FB.zip and installed that. The CF_FB... .zip are extensions for Eclipse or FlexBuilder that add RDS sup

Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...

2006-07-10 Thread Will Tomlinson
A ... ok Well that one's working because all my RDS is indeed there. But I never saw the zip it was telling me to install. H.. I'll look some more. THanks, Will ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update.

Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...

2006-07-10 Thread Will Tomlinson
> The CF_FB... .zip are extensions for Eclipse or FlexBuilder that add > RDS > support. > Nothing to do with Flex remoting to the CF server. Yeah I'm looking now and it was telling me to find coldfusion_flex_blahblah.zip in the flex builder 2 folder, when you run thru help > software updates >

Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...

2006-07-10 Thread Will Tomlinson
So it says this and I don't see it anywhere. And I don't see an extras directory. Select the ColdFusion_FlexBuilder_Feature.zip file, and then click Open. The file is located in the Extras folder if you installed ColdFusion MX 7.0.2 using the default values. Will

Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...

2006-07-10 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Monday 10 July 2006 11:10, Will Tomlinson wrote: > It isn't there. Any ideas where it might be? I've looked thru these > subfolders and still don't see it. Maybe I can just dload it from the adobe > site somewhere. Or somebody could email me this zip? Do a find for all the .zip files in the Pro

Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...

2006-07-11 Thread Will Tomlinson
> Do a find for all the .zip files in the Program Files folder :-) > The way I got it was to run the installer, and then when it was > unpacked and Dude, I still can't find it anywhere on here. Searched and searched it's like the Flex bermuda triangle! Is there any way you could shoot me

Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...

2006-07-11 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Tuesday 11 July 2006 11:28, Will Tomlinson wrote: > Dude, I still can't find it anywhere on here. Searched and searched > it's like the Flex bermuda triangle! Oddness. > Is there any way you could shoot me your coldfusion_flex.zip? Try here: http://www.cfreport.org/downloads/CF_FB_Extensi

Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...

2006-07-11 Thread Jose Diaz
This is an excellent book on learning flex well worth a read, however I do believe it was for flex version 1.0 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0321255666/103-8367109-1247065?v=glance&n=283155 Jose Diaz On 7/11/06, Tom Chiverton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tuesday 11 July 2006 11:28, Will

Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...

2006-07-11 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
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Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...

2006-07-11 Thread Will Tomlinson
> Try here: > http://www.cfreport.org/downloads/CF_FB_Extensions.zip Well now I've installed that one. The other one is named coldfusion_flex_extensions.zip are these the same ya think? I was thinking the CF_FB one was for RDS, etc. If I'm in flex, what should I be looking for if the coldfusi

Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...

2006-07-11 Thread Douglas Knudsen
in eclipse window > prefernces should have a RDS config point. window > show view > other should have a coldfusion choice with three views under it. You setup the RDS info in the first above. DK On 7/11/06, Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Try here: > > http://www.cfreport.org/down

Re: Flex / Coldfusion question...

2006-07-11 Thread Will Tomlinson
>in eclipse window > prefernces should have a RDS config point. window >> show view > other should have a coldfusion choice with three views >under it. You setup the RDS info in the first above. > Ahh yes, I've got it! You rock dude! now if I could just get somebody to show me howta link up my