>
> I would be cautious advising developers to become single skilled.
> Because then if one technology fails, you are screwed.
Agreed. But the most important thing is too understand the core concepts.
Think HTTP not CFHTTP, think XML not cfxml. Then at least learning a new
language is just a m
I wasn't saying it can't for the record - I was sharing my thought as to
why others always don't take it seriously. I personally prefer to ONLY
use it.
And of course it's no different than languages.. If you write coldfusion
- that's your perferred language. It's as objective as saying to a
french
: mark brinkworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 4:31 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OT: MM Suprises Wall Street - Can more be done?
If done right ColdFusion is more than capable of
handling large scale and secure applictions. The key
is doing it right, but this is no different
On Friday, Jan 24, 2003, at 10:48 US/Pacific, Owens, Howard wrote:
> thinking, a real programmer can pick up any language pretty easily. I
> mean,
> once you understand loops, conditionals, variables ... all languages
> seem to
> pretty much share the same grammar and much of the same vocabulary
If done right ColdFusion is more than capable of
handling large scale and secure applictions. The key
is doing it right, but this is no different than ASP,
and Java.
Training and Code Reviews are key here.
Cheers
> I am sure no one could have sent this better. I just
> thought I would add
> my
On Friday, Jan 24, 2003, at 11:54 US/Pacific, Jason Miller wrote:
> I think Cold Fusions biggest blemish is that it's too easy. It's an
> easy
> tag based environment. Anyone can do it - that sure means it can't
> handle large scale or secure applications.
I'm not sure where you get the last part
I would also suggest that a developer not be single
skilled. While clearly they cannot be expected to have
mastery of every language, I suspect that many could
well capable of being able to use several, in an
applied sense. I would suggest that most developers
would be capable of being competent m
ay, January 24, 2003 9:44 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: OT: MM Suprises Wall Street - Can more be done?
>
> At 11:23 AM 1/24/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>
> >I would be cautious with the advice for developers to become
> >multi-skilled. In a perfect world, I would
Well, ASP reached it's end-of-life in terms of extensible architecture.
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From: Costas Piliotis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Friday, January 24, 2003 11:25 am
Subject: RE: OT: MM Suprises Wall Street - Can more be done?
> While I appreciate the fact tha
It's a matter of balance. A complete knowledge of most languages is not
absolutely necessary.
Many developers can easily compete if they have:
1) a no nonsense work ethic,
2) a solid understanding of a languages syntax,
3) a good understanding of a languages abilities/limitations,
4) a strong fou
popular
server-side scripting language in use today. And is a heck of a lot more
flexible than asp.net.
-Original Message-
From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 9:33 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OT: MM Suprises Wall Street - Can more be done?
On Fri
On Friday, Jan 24, 2003, at 07:37 US/Pacific, S V wrote:
> Well great, but I see Asp.net creaping up and quickly too. As a
> product is
> seems to be more widely accepted and possibly will eclipse JSP/JAVA and
> others in a very short time.
I very much doubt that. I think we may see an increasing
One of the things that MM finally did was offer a developer version of the
server,( many people still do not know this). While this is great it came in
late in the game. Though there are other free software out there, CF is
easier to build in . The fact that it works under Websphere and Webl
At 12:22 PM 1/24/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>The fact that CF is too easy also means there are a lot of CF apps out
>there that are not done properly--cf is easy to do, not always easy to do
>right. We've run into this problem a lot where clients have seen very
>poorly performing CF apps written by n
At 11:23 AM 1/24/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>I would be cautious with the advice for developers to become
>multi-skilled. In a perfect world, I would be able to do a task in PHP,
>Perl, CF, ASP or Java, but in the real world my head would explode knowing
>everything there is to know about that. P
The fact that CF is too easy also means there are a lot of CF apps out
there that are not done properly--cf is easy to do, not always easy to do
right. We've run into this problem a lot where clients have seen very
poorly performing CF apps written by non-programmers.
Run into the same problem
ect: RE: OT: MM Suprises Wall Street - Can more be done?
I would be cautious with the advice for developers to become
multi-skilled. In a perfect world, I would be able to do a task in PHP,
Perl, CF, ASP or Java, but in the real world my head would explode
knowing everything there is to know about
I am sure no one could have sent this better. I just thought I would add
my .02 cents to this -
I think Cold Fusions biggest blemish is that it's too easy. It's an easy
tag based environment. Anyone can do it - that sure means it can't
handle large scale or secure applications.
just what I see.
I would be cautious with the advice for developers to become multi-skilled. In a
perfect world, I would be able to do a task in PHP, Perl, CF, ASP or Java, but in the
real world my head would explode knowing everything there is to know about that. Plus
you stretch yourself too thin if you try
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- Original Message -
From: "S V" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: OT: MM Suprise
Well great, but I see Asp.net creaping up and quickly too. As a product is
seems to be more widely accepted and possibly will eclipse JSP/JAVA and
others in a very short time. My question is while MM can dump more into
marketing and hype the product, but what can the community do to help. It
se
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