Re: OT - Nice site I will recommend you to all my friends.

2006-08-14 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Friday 11 August 2006 21:18, Al Musella, DPM wrote: somehow set the referrer to be the action page.. but some set it to Sending custom HTTP headers is trivial. Referer should not be used as part of security. the original form page also.. but the time never looks right.. usually either 0

RE: OT - Nice site I will recommend you to all my friends.

2006-08-13 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
, 2006 9:18 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: OT - Nice site I will recommend you to all my friends. Tom or Andy, Fill me in on this a little more. If I'm a hacker posting to a blog or guestbook, what advantage is there to not waiting for the POST request to return and googling for my text later? I'm

RE: OT - Nice site I will recommend you to all my friends.

2006-08-13 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
- From: Brian Dumbledore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 11:32 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: OT - Nice site I will recommend you to all my friends. One of my colleagues suggested a solution that almost works, On the form page you have a form field which has the time when the form

RE: OT - Nice site I will recommend you to all my friends.

2006-08-11 Thread Andy Matthews
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RE: OT - Nice site I will recommend you to all my friends.

2006-08-11 Thread Mark A Kruger
-Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 8:10 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: OT - Nice site I will recommend you to all my friends. Ah...I gotcha. So they Google for the unique text they posted (on your site) and if they find it, they know

Re: OT - Nice site I will recommend you to all my friends.

2006-08-11 Thread Lars Gronholt
: Friday, August 11, 2006 8:10 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: OT - Nice site I will recommend you to all my friends. Ah...I gotcha. So they Google for the unique text they posted (on your site) and if they find it, they know that form is vulnerable? Not only are they sneaky bastards, but they're lazy

Re: OT - Nice site I will recommend you to all my friends.

2006-08-11 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Friday 11 August 2006 14:17, Mark A Kruger wrote: guestbook, what advantage is there to not waiting for the POST request to return and googling for my text later? I'm trying to think of a scenario where this would save time rather than waste time. Because google do the indexing and

Re: OT - Nice site I will recommend you to all my friends.

2006-08-11 Thread Les Mizzell
If you're not getting any text in the message it may be your naming convention on the form Nice site I will recommend you to all my friends. *is* the text. That's why I was initially confused about this particular spam bot. Seemed to serve no purpose. I understand the bots that fill the

RE: OT - Nice site I will recommend you to all my friends.

2006-08-11 Thread Mark A Kruger
-Talk Subject: Re: OT - Nice site I will recommend you to all my friends. On Friday 11 August 2006 14:17, Mark A Kruger wrote: guestbook, what advantage is there to not waiting for the POST request to return and googling for my text later? I'm trying to think of a scenario where this would save

RE: OT - Nice site I will recommend you to all my friends.

2006-08-11 Thread Everett, Al \(NIH/NIGMS\) [C]
Subject: Re: OT - Nice site I will recommend you to all my friends. Having no link in the message of any kind threw me off at first. Why not go ahead and try to post all the intended spam the first time around instead of a two tiered attack? Twice the work to do it that way, right? . unless there's

RE: OT - Nice site I will recommend you to all my friends.

2006-08-11 Thread Munson, Jacob
Don't most guestbooks or blogs automatically post the message? Why would you need to wait to check? Couldn't you check right away? I must be missing something. I think it's because these guys are using software to post to thousands of sites at once. It would be quite a job to manually go

Re: OT - Nice site I will recommend you to all my friends.

2006-08-11 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Friday 11 August 2006 15:02, Mark A Kruger wrote: Don't most guestbooks or blogs automatically post the message? Why would I think it is Blogger that goes so far as to say 'there may be a delay before your message appears' you need to wait to check? Couldn't you check right away? I must

RE: OT - Nice site I will recommend you to all my friends.

2006-08-11 Thread Mark A Kruger
Ah... I see... So they are now purchasing web forms... (sigh) -Original Message- From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 10:01 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: OT - Nice site I will recommend you to all my friends. Don't most guestbooks or blogs

Re: OT - Nice site I will recommend you to all my friends.

2006-08-11 Thread Brian Dumbledore
One of my colleagues suggested a solution that almost works, On the form page you have a form field which has the time when the form is loaded (now()), on the action page, you make sure hte field exists, and then also see if now() now is atleast 1-2 seconds more than the formfield value (hoping

Re: OT - Nice site I will recommend you to all my friends.

2006-08-11 Thread Al Musella, DPM
I implemented something like that a few weeks ago ( checking time to post and also the referrer) and it does help a lot... most of the bots somehow set the referrer to be the action page.. but some set it to the original form page also.. but the time never looks right.. usually either 0

RE: OT - Nice site I will recommend you to all my friends.

2006-08-10 Thread Russ
will recommend you to all my friends. Nice site I will recommend you to all my friends. Jezz, this is the newest spam that seems to be targeting my guestbook and contact forms. 30 or 40 of them a day on one particular site! The forms are all protected using various CF schemes and the spam doesn't

Re: OT - Nice site I will recommend you to all my friends.

2006-08-10 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Thursday 10 August 2006 14:52, Les Mizzell wrote: Nice site I will recommend you to all my friends. guess It's a test to find vulnerable sites without bothering to wait for a POST of a form to come back - just submit the request and check back at some future point. -- Tom Chiverton

RE: OT - Nice site I will recommend you to all my friends.

2006-08-10 Thread Andy Matthews
, August 10, 2006 9:30 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: OT - Nice site I will recommend you to all my friends. On Thursday 10 August 2006 14:52, Les Mizzell wrote: Nice site I will recommend you to all my friends. guess It's a test to find vulnerable sites without bothering to wait for a POST of a form

Re: OT - Nice site I will recommend you to all my friends.

2006-08-10 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Thursday 10 August 2006 15:44, Andy Matthews wrote: What would they be waiting for? Google to reindex the site. -- Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership

RE: OT - Nice site I will recommend you to all my friends.

2006-08-10 Thread Bobby Hartsfield
-Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 10:44 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: OT - Nice site I will recommend you to all my friends. What would they be waiting for? !//-- andy matthews web developer certified advanced