Re: CF8 Ent Instances

2007-06-22 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Thursday 21 Jun 2007, John Mason wrote: > you may want to read up on your agreements. You may be legally required to > follow points such as these. Yeah, I think I posed the VISA requirements the other week. -- Tom Chiverton Helping to apprehensively participate leading-edge design-patterns o

RE: CF8 Ent Instances

2007-06-21 Thread Jason Manaigre
y much the only site I can't have offline if I do something wild to the server and crap it out for some reason. -Original Message- From: John Mason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 3:08 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF8 Ent Instances Considering CF8 is still beta an

RE: CF8 Ent Instances

2007-06-21 Thread Jason Manaigre
Definitely not the next myspace, one big site (the 600k/year) and the others are small blogs/wikis etc. Nothing over the 100k/year mark. I agree that the answer depends on the number of simultaneous users, how much RAM each application needs to function well, and other application-specific facto

RE: CF8 Ent Instances

2007-06-21 Thread John Mason
ginal Message- From: Tom Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 11:21 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF8 Ent Instances On Thursday 21 Jun 2007, Cutter (CFRelated) wrote: > issues. Every 'expert' I've ever spoken with on this would agree with > puttin

RE: CF8 Ent Instances

2007-06-21 Thread Dave Watts
> > issues. Every 'expert' I've ever spoken with on this would > > agree with putting the db on a separate box, behind the firewall ... > > That's massive overkill for most people's applications, I expect. As is running multiple instances of CF8. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.fi

Re: CF8 Ent Instances

2007-06-21 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Tom Chiverton wrote: > On Thursday 21 Jun 2007, Jochem van Dieten wrote: As a side note, putting a database server on the same box is a bad move. The web server and database server should be separate to obtain the best in security and utilization of your hardware. >>> I believe this

Re: CF8 Ent Instances

2007-06-21 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Thursday 21 Jun 2007, Cutter (CFRelated) wrote: > issues. Every 'expert' I've ever spoken with on this would agree with > putting the db on a separate box, behind the firewall, and without > direct access to the net, utilizing full authenticated-only access from > specific sources within the int

RE: CF8 Ent Instances

2007-06-21 Thread John Mason
-Original Message- From: Mike Chabot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 10:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF8 Ent Instances Assuming the data is important and needs to be secure, then you are correct. However, not all data is important. The server these guys were d

Re: CF8 Ent Instances

2007-06-21 Thread Mike Chabot
Assuming the data is important and needs to be secure, then you are correct. However, not all data is important. The server these guys were describing was unlikely to have anything remotely sensitive on it, which is why they were comfortable running everything on one box. I should have clarified th

Re: CF8 Ent Instances

2007-06-21 Thread Cutter (CFRelated)
It may chew up less resources, but that doesn't get around the security issues. Every 'expert' I've ever spoken with on this would agree with putting the db on a separate box, behind the firewall, and without direct access to the net, utilizing full authenticated-only access from specific sourc

Re: CF8 Ent Instances

2007-06-21 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Thursday 21 Jun 2007, Jochem van Dieten wrote: > >> As a side note, putting a database server on the same box is a bad move. > >> The web server and database server should be separate to obtain the best > >> in security and utilization of your hardware. > > > > I believe this statement is more t

Re: CF8 Ent Instances

2007-06-21 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Mike Chabot wrote: > On 6/20/07, John Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> As a side note, putting a database server on the same box is a bad move. The >> web server and database server should be separate to obtain the best in >> security and utilization of your hardware. > > I believe this sta

Re: CF8 Ent Instances

2007-06-20 Thread Mike Chabot
On 6/20/07, John Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Considering CF8 is still beta and we don't know the applications you are > trying to run on this. The answer is it depends. I agree that the answer depends on the number of simultaneous users, how much RAM each application needs to function well,

RE: CF8 Ent Instances

2007-06-20 Thread John Mason
Considering CF8 is still beta and we don't know the applications you are trying to run on this. The answer is it depends. As a side note, putting a database server on the same box is a bad move. The web server and database server should be separate to obtain the best in security and utilization of