RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

2002-10-16 Thread Vernon Viehe
The Dev edition in CF5 only allowed the local machine to connect, so the extra IP address was a step in this direction on CFMX. But I'd be interested to know how many folks feel strongly about this, so I can pass it along. -Vern -Original Message- From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL P

RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

2002-10-16 Thread Ken Wilson
annoyance. The extra IP is nice but fixing that annoyance would be even nicer. Ken -Original Message- From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 8:54 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise? The Dev edition in

RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

2002-10-16 Thread Stacy Young
Cranking it up to 5 would be perfect for me... Stace -Original Message- From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 8:54 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise? The Dev edition in CF5 only allowed the local

Re: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

2002-10-16 Thread Dick Applebaum
Vern Real life situation. I am doing a remote phone demo (Phone CFMX?) tomorrow to a potential client (me, in Calif & he, in his Park Avenue office).. I will use my TiBook, 1 GIG RAM, 800MHz, running: CFMX Developer Linux ported to Mac OS X Sybase ASE Developer (Native Mac OS X) (l

RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

2002-10-16 Thread Nat Papovich
s that require clients or customers to purchase CF server), shouldn't we get some leeway in our own copies of CF? NAT > -Original Message- > From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 6:22 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: CFMX De

Re: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

2002-10-16 Thread Dick Applebaum
annoyance. The extra IP is nice but fixing that annoyance would > be even > nicer. > > Ken > > > -Original Message- > From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 8:54 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: CFMX Developer Edit

Re: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

2002-10-16 Thread Dick Applebaum
Why? On Wednesday, October 16, 2002, at 06:22 PM, Stacy Young wrote: > Cranking it up to 5 would be perfect for me... ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion

RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

2002-10-16 Thread Mike Chambers
> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 8:54 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise? > > > The Dev edition in CF5 only allowed the local machine to > connect, so the extra IP address was a step in this direction on CFMX. > > But I

RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

2002-10-16 Thread Stacy Young
PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise? Why? On Wednesday, October 16, 2002, at 06:22 PM, Stacy Young wrote: > Cranking it up to 5 would be perfect for me... ~| Archives: h

Re: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

2002-10-16 Thread Dick Applebaum
t;> From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 8:54 PM >> To: CF-Talk >> Subject: RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise? >> >> >> The Dev edition in CF5 only allowed the local machine to >> connect,

Re: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

2002-10-16 Thread Dick Applebaum
Jeeze, that's a good answer -- wish I'd thought of that! This is very subtle, you are demonstrating volumes about CF, your application and yourself, by being able to do this. You can't buy that kind of PR! You can sum up this walk through with: "Gentlemen, this was not a simulation -- that's

RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

2002-10-16 Thread Stacy Young
06 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise? Jeeze, that's a good answer -- wish I'd thought of that! This is very subtle, you are demonstrating volumes about CF, your application and yourself, by being able to do this. You can't buy that

RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

2002-10-16 Thread Brook
hat was not intending on purchasing a >full license anyway... > >Stace > >-Original Message- >From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 10:06 PM >To: CF-Talk >Subject: Re: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

Re: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

2002-10-16 Thread Dick Applebaum
ber 16, 2002 10:06 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise? > > Jeeze, that's a good answer -- wish I'd thought of that! > > This is very subtle, you are demonstrating volumes about CF, your > application and yourself, by being ab

Re: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

2002-10-16 Thread Dick Applebaum
ion site with that was not intending on >> purchasing a >> full license anyway... >> >> Stace >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 10:06 PM >> To: CF-Talk >>

RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

2002-10-17 Thread John Beynon
nd remove the additional IP address from the license.properties file? Ain't that true? Jb. -Original Message- From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 October 2002 03:44 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise? Mmmm... Th

RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

2002-10-17 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
I was pretty sure the localhost + 1 IP was in CF5. -Original Message- From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 October 2002 01:54 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise? The Dev edition in CF5 only allowed the local machine to

RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

2002-10-17 Thread Thomas Chiverton
> I would like to see it expanded to 3 or 5 -- anything that would allow If it's a problem, just set-up a proxy server for everyone who wishes to use the server to go through to get to it, so that everyone appears to be using one IP. Tom Chiverton You don't have to be a mad scientist to believe

RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

2002-10-17 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise? > I would like to see it expanded to 3 or 5 -- anything that would allow If it's a problem, just set-up a proxy server for everyone who wishes to use the server to go through to get to it, so that everyone appears to be using one IP. Tom

Re: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

2002-10-17 Thread Dick Applebaum
go in and remove the additional IP address from the > license.properties file? Ain't that true? > > Jb. > > -Original Message- > From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 17 October 2002 03:44 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: CFMX Developer Edition wish

RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

2002-10-17 Thread Thomas Chiverton
> erm, isnt that against the licensing? No idea. Running the first demo's of MX in post-trial single IP mode to develop on was against it too. > effectively Macromedia wouldn't have > any sales! The client would go and buy the full version of course, we're talking about internal demo's here, ar

RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

2002-10-17 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
LOL ;-p -Original Message- From: Thomas Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 October 2002 10:50 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise? > erm, isnt that against the licensing? No idea. Running the first demo's of MX in post-tria

Re: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

2002-10-18 Thread Paul Hastings
> By the way, I'm not schizophrenic, so there's no need for the "royal we". schizophrenia isn't multiple-personality disorder, its means dave took a vacation from reality which doesn't appear to be the case here--i perhaps wouldn't say the same for folks who think mm is some kind of funky charity

RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

2002-10-18 Thread Dave Watts
> > I'm kind of surprised by this request. I don't work > > for Macromedia, > > Yes, but we will admit, won't we, that Fig Leaf has > historically had rather a 'special' relationship with > Allaire/Macromedia... I like to think it's "special", but that's more a matter of sentiment than anythin

RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

2002-10-18 Thread Dave Watts
> I disagree. Purchasing Enterprise licenses for > developers is not a viable option. I wasn't suggesting that you buy an Enterprise license for each developer, just that you might buy one license for a shared development server, and have as many developers as you want using that server for devel

RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

2002-10-18 Thread Mosh Teitelbaum
Vernon Viehe wrote: > For ongoing development needs, purchasing a licensed development > server currently is part of setting up shop, like purchasing the > development server hardware. I haven't seen any calls for free > development hardware, but if those companies start to give away > free develop

RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

2002-10-18 Thread Hal Helms
y) rediscovered the value of profit? Hal Helms "Java for CF Programmers" class immediately after Macromedia DevCon. Info at www.halhelms.com -Original Message- From: Greg Bullough [mailto:gwb@;outofchaos.com] Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 3:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject:

RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

2002-10-18 Thread Greg Bullough
At 09:19 PM 10/17/02 -0400, Vernon Viehe wrote: >I don't see where we're raising the cost of entry, we actually dropped the >price of Pro alot. You're raising the cost of entry by differentiating the Enterprise and Pro editions along the lines of a basic programming construct (specifically, JSP

RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

2002-10-18 Thread Benoit Hediard
ow on, please stop this thread on CF-TALK, the topic is related to CF-PARTNERS. Thanks. Benoit Hediard www.benorama.com -Message d'origine- De : Greg Bullough [mailto:gwb@;outofchaos.com] Envoyé : vendredi 18 octobre 2002 13:42 À : CF-Talk Objet : RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish wa

RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

2002-10-18 Thread Adrocknaphobia Jones
ns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health Distance Education Division -Original Message- From: Hal Helms [mailto:hal.helms@;teamallaire.com] Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 9:06 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise? It's fine to disagr

RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

2002-10-18 Thread Dick Applebaum
Oops, I posted this to the wrong thread. I started this thread, and maybe I should end it. I posted it here, because I thought it applied to individual CF developers -- whether part of a large organizations or one-person shops. I also thought , that because of the members of the CF-Talk list,

RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

2002-10-18 Thread Lee Fuller
Uhm.. Does that mean I have to sell my stock in that Chinese pharmaceutical company now?? DAMN! ;) | I've heard that they execute political prisoners and harvest | their organs for sale in China, but that doesn't mean it's | acceptable behavior, I hope. ~~~

RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

2002-10-18 Thread Lee Fuller
Will you move into my offices, Vernon?? ;) | -Original Message- | From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:vviehe@;macromedia.com] | Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 11:38 AM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise? | | | Dave's pretty much right-on

RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

2002-10-18 Thread Mark A. Kruger - CFG
to see some of thoses numbers. -mk -Original Message- From: Adrocknaphobia Jones [mailto:adrocknatalk@;hotmail.com] Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 10:44 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise? Btw. Everyone I know who are avid Studio users, also own copi

RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

2002-10-18 Thread Dave Watts
> You're raising the cost of entry by differentiating the > Enterprise and Pro editions along the lines of a basic > programming construct (specifically, JSP tags) for the > first time in the history of the product. I don't think this is an accurate characterization. JSP tags are not a basic pro

RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

2002-10-18 Thread Rob Rohan
Perhaps the IP's could be limited to sanctioned non-external IP's? 192.168.x.x - etc - -Original Message- From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:dicklacara@;mac.com] Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 9:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

2002-10-18 Thread Mark A. Kruger - CFG
No - it might be the only stock right now with potential... with a long life... a long "liver" so to speak . -Original Message- From: Lee Fuller [mailto:leelistnew@;primedna.net] Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 11:24 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was

Re: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

2002-10-18 Thread cf-talk
really wouldn't impact MM. -Novak - Original Message - From: "Jeffry Houser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 12:37 PM Subject: RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise? > Naah, th

RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

2002-10-18 Thread Rob Rohan
Original Message- >From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:dicklacara@;mac.com] >Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 9:22 AM >To: CF-Talk >Subject: RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise? > > >Oops, I posted this to the wrong thread. > >I started this thread, and

Re: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

2002-10-18 Thread Dick Applebaum
It really doesn't matter what the external IP addresses are -- The fact that the "CF Application Server" would need to be recycled after hits from the 5th unique IP makes it unsuitable for any kind of production use (be it by developers or end users). The way Macromedia has implemented this for

RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

2002-10-18 Thread Jeffry Houser
k Applebaum [mailto:dicklacara@;mac.com] >Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 9:22 AM >To: CF-Talk >Subject: RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise? > > >Oops, I posted this to the wrong thread. > >I started this thread, and maybe I should end it. > >I p

RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

2002-10-18 Thread Rob Rohan
unless, of course, it was a 3 person network. -Original Message- From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:dicklacara@;mac.com] Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 3:00 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise? It really doesn't matter what the extern

RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

2002-10-18 Thread Vernon Viehe
er Macromedia, Inc. -- Macromedia Certified Professional CF blog at http://vvmx.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: Greg Bullough [mailto:gwb@;outofchaos.com] Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 4:42 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish

Re: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

2002-10-18 Thread Dick Applebaum
m: Dick Applebaum [mailto:dicklacara@;mac.com] > Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 3:00 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise? > > > It really doesn't matter what the external IP addresses are -- > > The fact that the "CF Application Serv

RE: CFMX Developer Edition wish was Re: Pro v Enterprise?

2002-10-18 Thread Jeffry Houser
There, that should work. If everyone had honor, there would be no need for lawyers. >:wq > >:) > > >-Original Message- >From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:jeff@;farcryfly.com] >Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 12:38 PM >To: CF-Talk >Subject: RE: CFMX Developer Editio