RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-30 Thread Loathe
Then you handle the fact that the variable doesn't exist mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 11:09 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER But what if he doesn't have control over the calling page? -Original Message- From: Charl

RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-30 Thread Andy Matthews
But what if he doesn't have control over the calling page? -Original Message- From: Charles Sheehan-Miles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 5:06 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER You could try (on the calling page) writing a session variable fo

RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-30 Thread Andy Matthews
Ah... That might not work. I don't think that a page with only a cflocation is going to generate the referrer variable. -Original Message- From: Richard Colman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 7:22 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER Calling pa

RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-30 Thread Charles Sheehan-Miles
You could try (on the calling page) writing a session variable for the current page, then call that variable instead of cgi.http_referrer -Original Message- From: Coldfusion [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 9:18 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER Why

RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-29 Thread Coldfusion
, March 29, 2006 8:57 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER > Calling page is: > > > > Still not working. I don't think that the Referer header is passed when you redirect using CFLOCATION. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software

RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-29 Thread Dave Watts
> Calling page is: > > > > Still not working. I don't think that the Referer header is passed when you redirect using CFLOCATION. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in

RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-29 Thread Richard Colman
Calling page is: Still not working. -Original Message- From: Charles Sheehan-Miles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 7:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cgi.HTTP_REFERER This is kind of like asking to make sure your computer is plugged in (so you've pro

RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-29 Thread Eric Roberts
Also you have to be going to that page from another page for it to have a value... Eric ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:236505 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscrip

Re: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-29 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Thanks DaveI'm not sure I'd use the word sillybut I hear ya ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com

RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-29 Thread Ian Skinner
> > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software WTF!! Dave may kindly ask if you have any insight into the logic behind that little gem? ;-) Thanks CGI is a bit of a bastard because different web server software will return deferent lists. This can be confounded with proxy servers and other system

RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-29 Thread Dave Watts
> WTF!! Dave may kindly ask if you have any insight into the > logic behind that little gem? ;-) I can only speculate, but the set of CGI variables is dependent on the browser and the server, so my presumption is that they did this to reduce errors when checking CGI variables. I think it's kind

Re: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-29 Thread Ken Ferguson
For that matter (and I know this is a bit off the original point), cgi.jimmyhoffa will always exist. The cgi scope is really funny that way, everything exists there. --Ferg Charlie Griefer wrote: > what is the result of the conditional? > > the variable will always exist. there should (i belie

Re: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-29 Thread Bryan Stevenson
>> checks for it's existence > > Actually, I'm pretty sure that IsDefined always returns true for any CGI > variable, whether it actually exists or not. For example, this would return > true: > > > > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software WTF!! Dave may kindly ask if you have any insight into the l

RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-29 Thread Dave Watts
> checks for it's existence Actually, I'm pretty sure that IsDefined always returns true for any CGI variable, whether it actually exists or not. For example, this would return true: Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vend

Re: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-29 Thread Charles Sheehan-Miles
This is kind of like asking to make sure your computer is plugged in (so you've probably already checked this) but it will be empty if you didn't actually have a referrer (as in, you browse directly to the page). On 3/29/06 10:38 PM, "Ian Skinner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > cgi variable exi

Re: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-29 Thread Bryan Stevenson
checks for it's existence half assed checks for it being blank the non-half assed approach would be: means it's blank This var is often blank or incorrect due to proxys etc. HTH Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone:

Re: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-29 Thread Charlie Griefer
what is the result of the conditional? the variable will always exist. there should (i believe) always be a key in the CGI scope (struct) for cgi.http_referer. However, the value of that key could be an empty string (if the user bookmarked the page, typed it in manually, etc). On 3/29/06, Rich

RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-29 Thread Ian Skinner
cgi variable exists cgi variable does not exist #CGI.HTTP_REFERER# However I am not getting anything back in the cgi variable. Any comments appreciated. Rick Colman Just to eliminate any other kind of white space characters, I usually do a trim on anything I'm trying to c

RE: cgi.HTTP_REFERER

2006-03-29 Thread Munson, Jacob
A lot of software blocks this variable, like firewalls and stuff. Http_referer is useful, but you can't rely on it being there. > -Original Message- > From: Richard Colman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 2:33 PM > > I am trying to get this to work, and the si

Re: CGI.HTTP_REFERER is blank!

2004-07-12 Thread Rick Root
Donnie Carvajal wrote: > So, any ideas on the best way to keep outside sites from submitting my > forms? Try using ticketmaster to buy some tickets, you'll see what is probably one of the more effective methods... then scan the list archives for the many discussions on methods of doing it.  =) 

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER is blank!

2004-07-12 Thread Scott Mulholland
Norton Internet Security and similar products will strip it. -Original Message- From: Donnie Carvajal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 10:41 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CGI.HTTP_REFERER is blank! I am trying to check the CGI.HTTP_REFERER variable to keep outside sites fr

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER is blank!

2004-07-12 Thread Mosh Teitelbaum
Donnie: There's been a lot of discussion on this topic in the past.  You can check the House Of Fusion archives for them. In general, the best method I've heard of is dynamically generating a unique value on form display that needs to be submitted to the form processing page.  Basically, when the

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER is blank!

2004-07-12 Thread Marlon Moyer
Internet Privacy software will strip out the referrer oftentimes.  With all of the privacy issues and the software to address them, it might not be a good idea to rely on CGI.HTTP_REFERERespecially since it can be forged easily. Marlon > -Original Message- > From: Donnie Carvajal [mai

Re: CGI.HTTP_REFERER is blank!

2004-07-12 Thread Bryan Stevenson
proxy server ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER is blank!

2004-07-12 Thread Donnie Carvajal
So, any ideas on the best way to keep outside sites from submitting my forms?   -Original Message-   From: Mosh Teitelbaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Sent: Monday, July 12, 2004 10:50 AM   To: CF-Talk   Subject: RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER is blank!   Donnie:   The "Referer" header i

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER is blank!

2004-07-12 Thread Jim Davis
Sending a referrer is entirely up to the browser/system - most home firewall software will prevent referrers from being sent for example. You really should never use referrer as security mechanism it's just not reliable enough. Jim Davis I am trying to check the CGI.HTTP_REFERER variable to keep

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER is blank!

2004-07-12 Thread Mosh Teitelbaum
Donnie: The "Referer" header is optional.  HTTP Clients are not required to send the header or, if they do, are not required to be truthful about the data specified by the header.  Additionally, a lot of systems along the path of the HTTP connection (firewalls, gateways, etc.) can strip the header

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-28 Thread Dave Watts
> A firewall would have to _strip_ the referer header from > the HTTP request... a lot of work, and I can't imagine what > additional security would be gained from doing this. Imagine that you've got a relatively unsavory site with a bunch of links to less unsavory sites. You might not want to

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-27 Thread mark brinkworth
Message- >From: mark brinkworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Sunday, 28 July 2002 1:09 PM >To: CF-Talk >Subject: Re: CGI.HTTP_REFERER > >Some firewalls (such as Norton's - I know this from personal experience), >block or change the http_referer that is sent fro

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-27 Thread Michael Kear
brinkworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, 28 July 2002 1:09 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CGI.HTTP_REFERER Some firewalls (such as Norton's - I know this from personal experience), block or change the http_referer that is sent from the browser to the server. In the case or Norton, it get

Re: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-27 Thread mark brinkworth
Some firewalls (such as Norton's - I know this from personal experience), block or change the http_referer that is sent from the browser to the server. In the case or Norton, it gets changed to http_weferer, and consists of a rather random looking alphabet soup. Cheers, Mark >Okay. I'm st

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-27 Thread Joe Eugene
Turn on "Debugging" on you development box. This should show you all the values in the CGI scope. Joe -Original Message- From: Cornillon, Matthieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 6:49 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CGI.HTTP_REFERER Okay. I'm stumped. I had this whol

Re: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-27 Thread Jim McAtee
Which web server and version of CF are running on this server? On my CF5/IIS5 server, I always have the exact same set of CGI variable (including CGI.HTTP_REFERER), but some of them will sometimes have a zero length string as there value. A firewall would have to _strip_ the referer header from

Re: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-27 Thread Douglas Brown
quot;CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 4:48 PM Subject: RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER > I'm checking it in my Application.cfm. I want to see whether the page > before the current page is from my site or not. If not, I want to do > something different. I am

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-27 Thread Cornillon, Matthieu
this with my IT department. Thanks anyway, Matthieu -Original Message- From: Douglas Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 7:05 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CGI.HTTP_REFERER The syntax on the first one is correct. Are you referencing it after a page reque

Re: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-27 Thread Douglas Brown
The syntax on the first one is correct. Are you referencing it after a page request or form submittal? Douglas Brown Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Cornillon, Matthieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 3:49 PM Sub

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-09 Thread dev
>>I doubt that you can do this without some assistance from the intervening >>page. While browsers have a history object, <<< >>> > I currently use #CGI.HTTP_REFERER# to see the last page my user came >>> > from, is there a way to look back 2 pages?<<< This is not exactly the same thing, but the

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-09 Thread mark brinkworth
. Cheers >From: "Jim Vosika" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER >Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2002 08:03:45 -0500 > >I mean for pages out of my control. Like say the user first goes to a >

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-09 Thread Jim Vosika
Message- From: Pete Ruckelshaus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 7:15 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CGI.HTTP_REFERER Save it as a variable? Pete - Original Message - From: "Jim Vosika" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROT

Re: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-09 Thread Pete Ruckelshaus
Save it as a variable? Pete - Original Message - From: "Jim Vosika" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 6:19 PM Subject: CGI.HTTP_REFERER > I currently use #CGI.HTTP_REFERER# to see the last page my user came > from, is there a way to look

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-08 Thread Craig Thomas
I currently use #CGI.HTTP_REFERER# to see the last page my user came >>from, is there a way to look back 2 pages? >> >>Thanks! >>Jim Vosika << I have never done this, but the javascript object model has a history object which has the info you would need to know. Something like window.history

Re: CGI.HTTP_REFERER

2002-07-08 Thread Kevin Miller
Not unless you pass the previous page as a variable of some sort (cookie, URL, form, etc). Kevin >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/08/02 03:19PM >>> I currently use #CGI.HTTP_REFERER# to see the last page my user came from, is there a way to look back 2 pages? Thanks! Jim Vosika http://tinyclick.com

RE: cgi.http_referer problem

2001-11-02 Thread Matt Robertson
illa/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows NT 5.0) I guess we cannot do anything to prevent this to happen? Thank you again. Sima -Original Message- From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 12:35 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cgi.http_referer problem

RE: cgi.http_referer problem

2001-11-02 Thread Sima Lee
happen? Thank you again. Sima -Original Message- From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 12:35 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cgi.http_referer problem Short answer: Yes. I've been running and logging referer tests for about 6 months now. I g

Re: cgi.http_referer problem

2001-11-02 Thread Matt Robertson
Short answer: Yes. I've been running and logging referer tests for about 6 months now. I get an email every time one fails, and record all initial 'incoming' visitors in a db that logs, among other things, browser type and referer value. Every once in a while I'll have a user get 'refered' in f

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER and SSL

2000-12-14 Thread Chris Montgomery
astutia.com Allaire Consulting Partner 210-490-3249/888-745-7603Fax 210-490-4692 > -Original Message- > From: Aaron Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2000 3:46 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERE

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER and SSL

2000-12-14 Thread Gary McNeel, Jr.
Maybe you could try to capture the cgi.Server_Name or IP instead? You may also want to look at the authorizenet merchant management section though. Login and click on settings. Then select Manage URLs. You'll want to configure this area. -Gary > -Original Message- > From: Chris Montgome

RE: CGI.HTTP_REFERER and SSL

2000-12-14 Thread Aaron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris, I doubt there's an issue with the cgi.http_referer between secure & non secure.. It's just that their server (authorize.net) is doing an HTTP POST to your server... just like in a CFHTTP post, you have the option what you want to POST... I'm s

Re: #cgi.http_referer# and IE

2000-08-22 Thread Michael Slatoff
ut 1checked> Layout 2checked> - Original Message - From: "Randy Adkins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 1:18 PM Subject: RE: #cgi.http_referer# and IE > I did a test with one page, cre

RE: #cgi.http_referer# and IE

2000-08-22 Thread Randy Adkins
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 2:09 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: #cgi.http_referer# and IE -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In the calling form, you could pass a hidden field w/ the name of the form page. Something like: Hope that helps. Be

RE: #cgi.http_referer# and IE

2000-08-22 Thread Zachary Bedell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In the calling form, you could pass a hidden field w/ the name of the form page. Something like: Hope that helps. Best regards, Zac Bedell > -Original Message- > From: Michael Slatoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, August