Re: NFL Player Stats Service

2006-09-25 Thread Eric Haskins
http://www.yellowbrix.com/index.nsp?T=NormalP=ProductsF=CSSS I talked with them a few times but my customer didnt want to pay me what I charged let alone the monthly charge from yellowbrix. They do offer other feeds besides sports. -- ~Eric

Re: NFL Player Stats Service

2006-09-24 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
22:51:23 2006 Subject: Re: NFL Player Stats Service Hey Joe, On 9/23/06, Joe FitzGerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Same goes for laws. What I'd like to reflect on, is the fact that we can help steer the direction these laws go, and in fact, probably should. I think it's pretty shameful how

Re: NFL Player Stats Service

2006-09-24 Thread Joe FitzGerald
Cf-community now I think. Agreed... Denny, thanks for sharing your last post as it definitely clarified for me your position, which I obviously misunderstood from your first post (my bad). I completely agree that this is an area of law that is constantly being refined and it is in all our

Re: NFL Player Stats Service

2006-09-23 Thread Joe FitzGerald
Same goes for laws. What I'd like to reflect on, is the fact that we can help steer the direction these laws go, and in fact, probably should. I think it's pretty shameful how much power corporations have, I mean, it's pretty blatant that big $$ is doing what it can to protect it's interests, in

Re: NFL Player Stats Service

2006-09-23 Thread Casey Dougall
On 9/23/06, Joe FitzGerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Copyright laws -- as they exist today -- are good for all of us. Yes, if your in the USA, or country that protects works based on this. Now this is all good and dandy but many in the US, forget to send a copy to the library of congress. this

Re: NFL Player Stats Service

2006-09-23 Thread Denny Valliant
Hey Joe, On 9/23/06, Joe FitzGerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Same goes for laws. What I'd like to reflect on, is the fact that we can help steer the direction these laws go, and in fact, probably should. I think it's pretty shameful how much power corporations have, I mean, it's pretty

Re: NFL Player Stats Service

2006-09-22 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Thursday 21 September 2006 15:33, Joe FitzGerald wrote: so. In this case, it would definitely be illegal because the people displaying the information do not have permission to share the information with anyone else It's on their web site, freely accessable, no ? Tough - you are free to do

RE: NFL Player Stats Service

2006-09-22 Thread David Low
From: Tom Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 September 2006 12:02 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: NFL Player Stats Service It's on their web site, freely accessable, no ? Tough - you are free to do what you want with it. You'd have a hard job proving that one in court, I suspect

Re: NFL Player Stats Service

2006-09-22 Thread Joe FitzGerald
On Thursday 21 September 2006 15:33, Joe FitzGerald wrote: so. In this case, it would definitely be illegal because the people displaying the information do not have permission to share the information with anyone else It's on their web site, freely accessable, no ? Tough - you are

RE: NFL Player Stats Service

2006-09-22 Thread Dave Watts
It's on their web site, freely accessable, no ? Tough - you are free to do what you want with it. Likewise, they are free to sue you for copyright infringement - and they will win. This is a pretty well-settled part of copyright law. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/

RE: NFL Player Stats Service

2006-09-22 Thread Dave Watts
Some data is so obviously 'open source' that you could scrape it with no problem. Even if data is available within the public domain, you don't necessarily have the right to scrape it from a specific provider of that data. This is also well-settled copyright law, as I recall. Dave Watts, CTO,

Re: NFL Player Stats Service

2006-09-22 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Friday 22 September 2006 12:05, David Low wrote: week (as the Press Association provides to bookmakers) so if you nicked something like that from a site, they'd know fine if you had a license to use it or not. You could have gone and seen it yourself. Or your friend could have. shrug --

RE: NFL Player Stats Service

2006-09-22 Thread David Low
From: Tom Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 September 2006 14:59 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: NFL Player Stats Service You could have gone and seen it yourself. Or your friend could have. shrug I wouldn't dispute that. The biggest nonsense of all is fixture lists in the UK

Re: NFL Player Stats Service

2006-09-22 Thread Denny Valliant
There was a great (reoccurring) thread on licensing on another list the other day... good stuff. Anyway, the Law is a lot like the dictionary (here we go ;)... See, if a word gets used enough, it gets in, basically. Same goes for laws. What I'd like to reflect on, is the fact that we can help

Re: NFL Player Stats Service

2006-09-21 Thread Tom Chiverton
On Wednesday 20 September 2006 18:47, Ray Champagne wrote: $1000 p/mo), or scrape screens (I would think this would be virtually impossible with player stats) illegally and risk getting caught, no. Impossible is a strong word. Why would it be illegal ? -- Tom Chiverton Helping to

Re: NFL Player Stats Service

2006-09-21 Thread Joe FitzGerald
On Wednesday 20 September 2006 18:47, Ray Champagne wrote: $1000 p/mo), or scrape screens (I would think this would be virtually impossible with player stats) illegally and risk getting caught, no. Impossible is a strong word. Why would it be illegal ? Screen-scraping is general

RE: NFL Player Stats Service

2006-09-20 Thread Ray Champagne
I asked about this a week or so ago, and got no answer. Also did some googling, and unless you want to pay exorbitant fees (I seem to remember $1000 p/mo), or scrape screens (I would think this would be virtually impossible with player stats) illegally and risk getting caught, no. Would be nice