r 11, 2002 11:32 AM
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Subject: RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is it Content Management or not?
Seems to me like a cut-down version of dreamweaver with rights
management from the version I downloaded today...
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From: Pete Ruckelshaus [mailto:cflist@;rucke
It is NOT a CMS tool. Well, not in the Spectra/CommonSpot type application
vain. It is as, Mike mentioned a sort of DWMX lite with a few extras bolted
on, such as Version Control (only to 99 versions). Is it aimed at the
muppet client who has not idea of the web etc and can easily start
Contrib
I was the presentation at Devcon. It's content management for static page
websites or the static portions of a site. It uses DWMX templates where you
can restrict editable regions of the pages and create new pages based on
those templates.
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From: "Pete Ruckelshaus" <[E
: Monday, November 11, 2002 11:56 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is it Content Management or not?
that is incorrect.
from:
http://www.macromedia.com/software/contribute/productinfo/faq/#1_7
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Does Contribute work with dynamic web pages?
Macromedia Contribute can edi
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> Subject: Re: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is it Content
> Management or not?
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> I was the presentation at Devcon. It's content management for
> static page websites or the static portions of a site. It
> uses DWMX templates where you can restrict
t: Monday, November 11, 2002 10:56 AM
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> Management or not?
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> that is incorrect.
>
> from:
> http://www.macromedia.com/software/contribute/productinfo/faq/#1_7
>
> -
> Does Contribute
> It is NOT a CMS tool. Well, not in the Spectra/CommonSpot type
> application
> vain. It is as, Mike mentioned a sort of DWMX lite with a few extras
> bolted
> on, such as Version Control (only to 99 versions). Is it aimed at the
> muppet client who has not idea of the web etc and can easily s
nday, November 11, 2002 11:12 AM
Subject: RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is it Content
Management or not?
| It does seem to be a very odd product, I can't really see
what the
| market is for it.
|
| I can't see it being used on large sites (probably already
CMS), and I
| think we all kno
Developer
Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
Distance Education Division
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From: Russ [mailto:russ@;unrealisticexpectations.com]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:14 PM
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Subject: RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is it Content Management or not?
Is it
er 11, 2002 1:21 PM
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> The product is called a stand-alone product, with no
> server-side scripting, but the product description discussed
> administration settings.
> how doe
> The product is called a stand-alone product, with no
> server-side scripting, but the product description discussed
> administration settings.
> how does a site administrator enforce server-side settings
> then?
You may find all the relevant info on MM's website and the DesDev.
Basically, using
gt;
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> Neil,
> Actually, it can work with dynamic pages, but the end-user can't modify
the
> dynamic code. In other word
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> I was the presentation at Devcon. It's content management for
> static page websites or the static portions of a site.
2002 12:17 PM
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>
> How is this content management thing going to work with sites built in
> fusebox or a similar methodology, where the content needs to be
updated
> but
> the pages are d
See my "Contribute and Fusebox" post above. It doesn't seem to work too
well w/ Fusebox.
--D
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From: Fregas [mailto:lists@;mediaartisans.com]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 9:17 AM
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But aren't MM telling us that everything is going to be a web
application soon?
;)
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> From: Matt Liotta [mailto:mliotta@;r337.com]
> Sent: 11 November 2002 20:35
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> Manageme
> How is this content management thing going to work with sites built in
> fusebox or a similar methodology, where the content needs to be updated
> but the pages are defined by URL parameters, not filenames?
My expectation would be that the application would have to connect to
individual files li
Contribute users to modify
and hands off all other aspects including dynamic code.
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From: Fregas [mailto:lists@;mediaartisans.com]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:17 PM
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How is this
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How is this content management thing
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> From: Sandy Clark [mailto:slLists@;shayna.com]
> Sent: 11 November 2002 20:38
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> Management or not?
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> It was described to me as (by Macromedia Sales People) at
To me, it looks similar to the CMS packages offered by ektron.com
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From: Sandy Clark [mailto:slLists@;shayna.com]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 3:38 PM
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It was described to me as (by
11 November 2002 20:35
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> > Management or not?
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> >
> > It's not! Contribute is meant for web sites, not web applications.
> >
> > Matt Liotta
> > Pre
"Jason Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> There are quite a few hurdles I am curious about - like if the specials
> have dynamic links or pages written in coldfusion how it handles it or
> rather - does not interfere with it - I will be ecstatic to ha
On Monday, Nov 11, 2002, at 12:44 US/Pacific, Sandy Clark wrote:
> My initial feel from looking at the stuff is this is going to be mostly
> meant for smaller sites that use Dreamweaver MX to setup the template
> editing areas with defined static areas for Contribute users to modify
> and hands off
Monday, November 11, 2002, 6:07:47 PM, Jason Miller wrote:
> Personally - if this is really what it is - Finally a light means to
> edit simple stuff that a developer or a serious designer get's tired of
> editing - like "Today's Specials" - it will be great.
And so begins the next round between
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| Monday, November 11, 2002, 6:07:47 PM, Jason Miller wrote:
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| > Personally - if this is really what it is - Finally a
light means to
| > edit simple stuff that a
LOL - That is hilarious and I really should have put a disclaimer in
there regarding that.!
I may with your permission possibly post this with any inquries
regarding this software <*grin>
All kidding aside though - I would think others out there will inform
clients of the do's and don'ts and poten
> Topic: Macromedia Contribute
> http://www.macromedia.com/desdev/contribute/
>
> Poking around the site, it sure as heck looks like some sort
> of content management system, but MACR seems to go to great
> pains to NOT us the "Content Management" moniker. The
> Conspiracy Theorist in me (a s
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Subject: RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is it Content Management or not?
that is incorrect.
from:
http://www.macromedia.com/software/contribute/productinfo/faq/#1_7
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Does Contribute work with dynamic web pages?
Macromedia Contribute can edit static HTML on any web page
and how many 1.0 have we seen get canned..?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:jdinowit@;houseoffusion.com]
Sent: 12 November 2002 03:42
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Subject: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is it Content Management or not?
Keep in mind, this is a 1.0 release right now. (A
Great points, Sean.
In our shop, we have one person that does CF full time (me), one that does
it part time combined with design, one that just works on static sites, and
one student. We design/manage/support/build a couple of hundred websites. 72
of those are static and distributed (non-tech) sta
People just hate to see any resources moved away from ColdFusion.
Spectra might have made it past 1.0, but it never helped ColdFusion.
Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
888-408-0900 x901
> -Original Message-
> From: Judith Dinowitz [mailto:
Heck, I think Contribute is a cool idea, my sister wants a site and I think
I'm going to tell her to use it, that way all I have to do is create a
single template and she can do the rest of the work :-) It would be nice
if it was $50 rather than $100, but what can you do.
Pete
- Original Me
How is the creation of a new product "moving resources away" from ColdFusion?
-jesse
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> From: Matt Liotta [mailto:mliotta@;r337.com]
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mber 12, 2002 3:12 PM
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> How is the creation of a new product "moving resources away" from
> ColdFusion?
>
>
> -jesse
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>
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&g
> How is the creation of a new product "moving resources away"
> from ColdFusion?
If it's not, I'm glad to see that MM now has infinite resources. Woohoo!
Seriously, anything that MM does comes out of the same bucket o'resources,
so if you have a new product, that takes effort that you could spe
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> From: Dave Watts [mailto:dwatts@;figleaf.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:23 PM
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> > How is the creation of a new product "moving resources away"
I sure wish they'd fix some of the problems with existing products
before going in another direction.
Thanks,
Mark
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> From: Pete Ruckelshaus [mailto:cflist@;ruckelshaus.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:14 PM
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> Subject: Re: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is it Content
> Management or not?
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> Heck, I think Contribute is a cool idea, my sister wants a
> s
I want to run Macromedia.
That being said. I don't want to run Macromedia.
;)
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> /sigh
>
> I know Dave. I'm not claiming infinite resources. However, I don't
think
> that becomes a va
esse Noller [mailto:jnoller@;macromedia.com]
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> Subject: RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is it Content
> Management or not?
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>
> How is the creation of a new product "moving resources away"
> from ColdFusion?
>
>
On Tuesday, Nov 12, 2002, at 12:23 US/Pacific, Dave Watts wrote:
> Seriously, anything that MM does comes out of the same bucket
> o'resources,
> so if you have a new product, that takes effort that you could spend on
> existing products. That's not to say I think it's a bad idea, it's
> just how
Hmmm, it doesn't look like it works too well with Fusebox. It loaded
the first page, index.cfm, and then loaded all linked pages and graphics
(which is *everything*, since it all goes through index.cfm
Fusebox-style). Then it wouldn't let me edit "that region of the
document" when clicking any te
? Macromedia Contribute, is
it Content Management or not?)
Hmmm, it doesn't look like it works too well with Fusebox. It loaded
the first page, index.cfm, and then loaded all linked pages and graphics
(which is *everything*, since it all goes through index.cfm
Fusebox-style). Then it wouldn
(WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute, is
it Content Management or not?)
yep, it hasnt not been thought through.,..if you have any kind of page which
is not, lets say, normal..it will freak la sheek.
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From: David Notik [mailto:dave@;digital202.com]
Sent: 11 November 2002
and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute,
is it Content Management or not?)
What do you expect for $99? It's not meant for editing web applications,
simply for editing websites!
jb
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From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
[mailto:Neil.Robertson-Ravo@;csd.reedexp
alk
Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute,
is it Content Management or not?)
What do you expect for $99? It's not meant for editing web applications,
simply for editing websites!
jb
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> From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
> [mailto:Neil.Robertson-Ravo@;csd.reedexpo.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:56 AM
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> Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia
> Contribute, is it Content Management or not?)
>
>
> and
[mailto:John.Beynon@;era.co.uk]
Sent: 12 November 2002 10:03
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Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute,
is it Content Management or not?)
Small businesses, one man shops etc - not everyone is going to shell out for
DWMX. We all know DW is way better than FrontPage
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From: John Beynon [mailto:John.Beynon@;era.co.uk]
Sent: 12 November 2002 10:03
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Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute,
is it Content Management or not?)
Small businesses, one man shops etc - not everyone is going to shell out for
DWMX
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> Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute,
> is it Content Management or not?)
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>
> and how many of those are around...? I mean true old fashioned
> pre db boom
> websites
(WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute,
is it Content Management or not?)
Millions. And considering Dreamweaver is the best selling web site
development app, it makes sense to have a lightweight, dumbed down content
editor for those Dreamweaver sites.
-Kevin
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> Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute,
> is it Content Management or not?)
>
>
> Millions. And considering Dreamweaver is the best selling web site
> development app, it mak
tson-Ravo, Neil (REC)
[mailto:Neil.Robertson-Ravo@;csd.reedexpo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 9:18 AM
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Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute,
is it Content Management or not?)
I think there are going to be the pro camps and the con camps, I for one
rom: Adrocknaphobia Jones [mailto:adrocknatalk@;hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:39 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute,
is it Content Management or not?)
Well I'm curious about the bottom line.
Is anyone planning on implementing Contribute in a
rocknaphobia Jones [ mailto:adrocknatalk@;hotmail.com
<mailto:adrocknatalk@;hotmail.com> ]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:39 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia Contribute,
is it Content Management or not?)
Well I'm curious about the
Jay,
Yeah - and another law is at work here. It's called Mark's PITA law (and it
has nothing to do with animals). It's states:
"...the smaller the fee the client is willing to pay, the bigger the PITA he
or she will become"
If you have trouble with my acronym, the first three words are "Pain in
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Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:08 AM
Subject: RE: Contribute and Fusebox (WAS RE: OT? Macromedia
Contribute, is it Content Management or not?)
| Millions. And considering Dreamweaver is the best selling
web site
| de
I agree - all new clients for the past year are carefully accepted - but
funny thing is - that all this little piddly work that others ignore -
if handled right can be a profit point for someone else.
You just have to know how to deal with the PITA clients. When to ditch
them - when to price th
On Tuesday, Nov 12, 2002, at 04:43 US/Pacific, Robertson-Ravo, Neil
(REC) wrote:
> It is also interesting to note that the OSX version is not out till
> next
> year :-)..
Well, Windows is the more popular platform and Contribute has a fairly
tight integration with Windows / MS Office. Again
> Yeah - and another law is at work here. It's called
> Mark's PITA law (and it has nothing to do with animals).
> It's states:
> "...the smaller the fee the client is willing to pay, the
> bigger the PITA he or she will become"
> If you have trouble with my acronym, the first three words
> are "
On Tuesday, Nov 12, 2002, at 06:38 US/Pacific, Adrocknaphobia Jones
wrote:
> Outside of giving it to your friend you made a site for, I can't see
> implementing this is a real world application. After all, at 100 bucks
> a
> pop, it doesn't become very cost effective beyond 5 people. At that
> po
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