Allaire...
woo ho. anyone listening?
CFStudio for Linux and Mac - por favor?
Steve
> At 05:40 PM 5/18/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >I say CFStudio5 for Mac and Linux and everyone pipe down :-)
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> I vote you for president. The only reason we even have pcs is that there's
> no
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> > The Mac is dead as a server platform? While obviously no
>
>
> While I agree with David that NT can be, when configured
> properly, a highly
> secure server. I must disagree with his assessment that current
> Mac servers
> have their own "gross security holes."
>
I think the wisest thing I've ever heard about server security is this :
"The only secure
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#x27;s far more difficult to find security holes if
only
> > a handful of people are looking for them... IMO...
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> > -Rich
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> > The Mac is dead as a server platform? Wh
May 18, 2000 11:21 AM
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> Isn't NT still at the heart a DOS core?
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> KM
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> Richard Fantini wrote:
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> > I'm certainly not a M$ fan, but that's not even close to a fair
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> > The Mac is dead as a server platform? While obviously not as
> > popular as NT/2000, Mac servers suffer none of the gross
> > security
on Request
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I'm certainly not a M$ fan, but that's not even close to a fair sta
and failure, you get more of both."
-James Dale Davidson
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> > The Mac is dead as a server platform? While obviously not as popular as
> > NT/2000, Mac servers suffe
holes if only
a handful of people are looking for them... IMO...
-Rich
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The Mac is dead as a server platform? While obviously not as popular as
NT/2000, Mac servers s
> The Mac is dead as a server platform? While obviously not as
> popular as NT/2000, Mac servers suffer none of the gross
> security holes that NT/2000 has. Remember that the US Army
> has decided to move towards the Mac web server system for
> those same reasons.
Mac servers don't have the gross
I'd like to know how someone could think Mac is dead as a server platform? Yes! Mac is
not a predominant factor in server platform now, though they remain a player. Their
hardware and
processor are stable. They are the only true OS and hardware developer left. They are
selling more computers no
The Mac is dead as a server platform? While obviously not as popular as
NT/2000, Mac servers suffer none of the gross security holes that NT/2000
has. Remember that the US Army has decided to move towards the Mac web
server system for those same reasons.
--
Larry C. Lyons
EBStor.com
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At the same time however, I went to the Apple site, and its a legit price.
WebObjects is very powerful. At $700 and available for the Mac, NT/2000Pro,
and *nix boxes, it may be a serious competition in a few months. As for
going to Java, remember, CF is headed that route as well, according to
Alla
The Mac OS X server ($499.00) is built around the Mach Kernel. Comes with (Apache
Server-Mac OS GUI interface) BSD UNIX, JAVA and WebObjects. I don't know if it is
the same version of WebObjects. I would assume, yes because this means you have a
Apple computer. Steve Jobs is not messing around. Wh
C'Mon folks an obvious piece of Flame Bait from :
Abe V.S. Troel aka... "Obvious Trawl"
consultant.com Free email.com addy
Steve
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At 12:00 PM 5/17/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Well, it was a good run, but I guess this pretty muc
Well, it was a good run, but I guess this pretty much
wraps it for the PC. Not too many people are going to
want to bother with it given that now they can get an
Apple Lisa for about the same amount of money.
Brandon Whitaker
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At 12:00 PM 5/17/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Well, it was a good run, but I guess this pre
> >Well, it was a good run, but I guess this pretty much wraps it for Cold
> >Fusion.
> I'm not doubting the quality of the product, but I question your motives
> for sending this message.
> I don't appreciate being spammed.
Like Jennifer, I also got a weird feeling from the original post. It
Unless you consider the fact that Apple has a bad habit of not supporting
other platforms. I don't know many hosting providers who run mac systems
either.
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The worrying thing is WHY it dropped from $50,000 to $699 - that's one hell
of a drop in price...
Should the press release say "Apple drop WebObjects license price from
$50,000 to $699 as nobody was stupid enough to pay that much"?
And, oh yes, I REALLY want to develop my applications in Java...
Yet again -- right on, Jennifer!!!
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At 12:00 PM 5/17/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Well, it was a good run, but I guess this pretty much wraps it for Cold
>Fusion. Not too many people are going to want to bother with it given that
>now they can get something much better for about the same amount of money.
>
>Oh well, nothing lasts forever.
last person leaving Cold Fusion please turn out
the lights?
Gee, more marketing hype. I for one am not going to close up shop because
some marketeer at Apple puts out a press release. Market forces rely on
substantially more substance than the vaporware proposed by most vendors.
In its current stat
Hmm, Java lovely!
*spit*
Taz
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Well, it was a good run, but I guess this pret
Gee, more marketing hype. I for one am not going to close up shop because
some marketeer at Apple puts out a press release. Market forces rely on
substantially more substance than the vaporware proposed by most vendors.
In its current state, CF is robust and stable. Jumping ship just because of
Is this a joke?
At 12:00 PM 5/17/2000 -0400, you wrote:
>Well, it was a good run, but I guess this pretty much wraps it for Cold
>Fusion. Not too many people are going to want to bother with it given that
>now they can get something much better for about the same amount of money.
>
>Oh well, not
HAHAHAHAAH! You MUST be joking.
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> Well, it was a good run, but I guess this prett
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