Re: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-31 Thread Dinner
On 8/30/07, Gert Franz wrote: :-) It's like in Die Hard: The Stockholm syndrome Like Stockholm Finnland? No Stockholm - Sweden Hehe, that actually sounded funny when I typed it, but I'm glad you got what I meant. =] their code for performance, since it's our business. Railo helps,

Re: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-30 Thread Vince Bonfanti
Sean wrote: I will, of course, try BD 7.0.1, but would request that you try the Mac install with Apple's Java 6 Developer Preview (as well as the regular Java 5). Thanx! Will do. We've added this to our project plan. Vince Bonfanti http://www.newatlanta.com

Re: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-30 Thread Dinner
Ha! You Swedes! =) It's amazing how fast you guys have been rolling out this stuff. Maybe it's just my floaty perception, but it seems like- wow! kudos. On 8/27/07, Gert Franz wrote: Well, beeing from Switzerland is not allways good. At least our german is better. But we will update it

Re: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-30 Thread Gert Franz
:-) It's like in Die Hard: The Stockholm syndrome Like Stockholm Finnland? No Stockholm - Sweden Thanks for the praise. In our opinion bad performance is a bug... And we allways try to improve. We have many customers that want as analyze their code for performance, since it's our business.

Re: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-29 Thread Gert Franz
Stylo, you're right. In order to have unlimited web contexts available in Railo you would need the Railo Professional unlimited for 1100$. How a web context is defined can be read here: http://www.railo.ch/en/index.cfm?treeID=333 The number of virtual hosts is not important. But the number of

Re: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-29 Thread Vince Bonfanti
Sean wrote: Did you actually run the suite of unit tests that comes with Transfer to ensure compatibility or did you just run the tBlog sample app? We're running the CFUnit tests that come with Transfer (so we also had to make sure CFUnit runs on BD). BTW, Transfer will only run on the

Re: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-29 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
Stylo, you're right. In order to have unlimited web contexts available in Railo you would need the Railo Professional unlimited for 1100$. What is Professional Unlimited? Is that different from the Enterprise version? I don't see any information on the site about this version, and the

Re: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-29 Thread Sean Corfield
On 8/29/07, Vince Bonfanti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We're running the CFUnit tests that come with Transfer (so we also had to make sure CFUnit runs on BD). BTW, Transfer will only run on the Java/J2EE versions of BD; it won't run on BD.NET because Transfer relies too much on Java features

Re: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-28 Thread Sean Corfield
On 8/27/07, Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But, I know for me, one killer function that is missing is the support for CFX tags. Hmm, I've never needed to use a C++ tag with CFML. I think I've only used one Java CFX tag ever. What sort of killer C++ CFX tags are you folks using? --

Re: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-28 Thread David Low
Sean Corfield wrote: Hmm, I've never needed to use a C++ tag with CFML. I think I've only used one Java CFX tag ever. What sort of killer C++ CFX tags are you folks using? I'd go along with that - I've often found myself removing CFX tags which were purely in use as a 'quick fix'. Such as

Re: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-28 Thread Paul Hastings
Sean Corfield wrote: What sort of killer C++ CFX tags are you folks using? the only C++ cfx tag i ever see these days is one from esri to talk to it's arcIMS map server product. we stopped using it years ago in favor of CFC wrapping up a java connector that does more or less the same thing but

Re: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-28 Thread Gert Franz
I am of the same opinion. The decision to support C++ tags by Railo is made by the requests from the community. And by now we had around 5 requests for this feature. The way of implementation for us is clear. But it takes time we have not at the moment since other things on our list need to be

RE: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-28 Thread Rick Faircloth
: Railo 2 Released On 8/27/07, Rick Faircloth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But, I know for me, one killer function that is missing is the support for CFX tags. Hmm, I've never needed to use a C++ tag with CFML. I think I've only used one Java CFX tag ever. What sort of killer C++ CFX tags are you folks

Re: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-28 Thread Vince Bonfanti
like BlueDragon, it does not support Transfer ORM which is a deal-breaker for me since I use that framework on all of my projects. Hi Sean, Transfer ORM is supported in BD 7.0.1. We're wrapping up testing this week and plan to release a public beta next week. Vince Bonfanti

Re: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-28 Thread Raymond Camden
Gert - good point there. On 8/27/07, Gert Franz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then why is there querySetCell(). You can use qry.age[1] = 50 as well. Or why in other engines there is a ListFind() but no ArrayFind()? Or a ListToArray() but no ListToStruct() or ArrayToStruct()? Our function matrix

Re: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-28 Thread Andrew Grosset
CFX_ImageFlare is a really good imaging tag written in C++ which I highly recommend. Andrew. ~| Check out the new features and enhancements in the latest product release - download the What's New PDF now

RE: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-28 Thread Andrew Scott
To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Railo 2 Released CFX_ImageFlare is a really good imaging tag written in C++ which I highly recommend. Andrew. ~| Download the latest ColdFusion 8 utilities including Report Builder, plug-ins for Eclipse

RE: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-28 Thread Rick Faircloth
Subject: RE: Railo 2 Released Not if Railo has imaging built into it like CF8 has. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613  8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: Andrew Grosset [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent

RE: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-28 Thread Rick Faircloth
: Railo 2 Released CFX_ImageFlare is a really good imaging tag written in C++ which I highly recommend. Andrew. ~| Check out the new features and enhancements in the latest product release - download the What's New PDF now http

Re: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-28 Thread Sean Corfield
On 8/28/07, Vince Bonfanti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Transfer ORM is supported in BD 7.0.1. We're wrapping up testing this week and plan to release a public beta next week. That's good to know Vince, thank you! Did you actually run the suite of unit tests that comes with Transfer to ensure

Re: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-28 Thread stylo stylo
My take is that for $300 you can run unlimited virtual hosts. Seems like a pretty fair price to me. Now, am I wrong? Seems wrong because you have to pay an extra $100/web, they say. So running 5 sites means $700, etc. By default with the Professional Version a single web (webapp) can be

Re: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-27 Thread Terry Schmitt
I've been trying figure out their licensing, as I've been testing the RC version but I think with the pro version (1 web context), it's similar to the CF server installation. You run unlimited virtual hosts under the single web context. The limitation being that all the Railo setting are global

Re: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-27 Thread Gert Franz
To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Railo 2 Released That's not true about the 6.1 compatibility. The new version has basically been benchmarked against CF 7.02, which was the current version when the bulk of Railo 2 was developed. Some features have been extended or improved beyond the CF 7 spec

Re: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-27 Thread Gert Franz
Then why is there querySetCell(). You can use qry.age[1] = 50 as well. Or why in other engines there is a ListFind() but no ArrayFind()? Or a ListToArray() but no ListToStruct() or ArrayToStruct()? Our function matrix containing the functions regarding lists, structs, arrays and queries is as

Re: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-27 Thread Gert Franz
: Monday, 27 August 2007 8:49 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Railo 2 Released Oh, I just read that, never bothered as I thought Community meant that it would have to be a community ie NON commercial website. But reading the page, this doesn't seem to be the case. They could do themselves

Re: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-27 Thread Gert Franz
Hi Sean, yes there are still some things we work on. As you may know I am working hard on getting Transfer running. I'll blog about that. We are and were very busy with the 2.0 relaunch. So it just needs some time. Greetings / Grüsse Gert Franz Customer Care Railo Technologies GmbH [EMAIL

Re: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-27 Thread Gert Franz
Yes it does. And we just need the time to implement the functionality. But it definitely is on our list. You are not the first to mention. Thanks Greetings / Grüsse Gert Franz Customer Care Railo Technologies GmbH [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.railo.ch Join our Mailing List / Treten Sie unserer

Re: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-27 Thread Gert Franz
Well, beeing from Switzerland is not allways good. At least our german is better. But we will update it day by day and try to get rid of all spelling errors. Greetings / Grüsse Gert Franz Customer Care Railo Technologies GmbH [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.railo.ch Join our Mailing List / Treten Sie

RE: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-27 Thread Rick Faircloth
that difficult? Rick -Original Message- From: Gert Franz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 2:55 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Railo 2 Released Yes Rick, you wer right. We haven't flushed the cache so we had some Errors regarding our current level of compatibility. Thanks

Re: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-27 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
The main thing that bugs me is CFX tags they have to be java based not C++. which rules out a lot of useful CFX tags out there. I'm glad to hear they are working on this, when it comes to doing ecommerce, many of the CFX tags are more than just useful, they are essential depending on the

RE: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-27 Thread Rick Faircloth
: Gert Franz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 3:02 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Railo 2 Released Well, beeing from Switzerland is not allways good. At least our german is better. But we will update it day by day and try to get rid of all spelling errors. Greetings / Grüsse

Re: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-26 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
If they cut the price by about 50%, I might be interested. I just can't see paying at least for Railo Pro, which only compares to CFML 6.1, for what I would pay for the full pro version of CF 8 from Adobe... the original. Well, that's if you look at the Enterprise version...but is that what most

Re: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-26 Thread David Low
anyone would go this route. Again, if the price were considerably less that CF 8 from Adobe, then maybe I could see going this way... Rick -Original Message- From: David Low [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 5:51 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Railo 2 Released

RE: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-26 Thread Rick Faircloth
to be fair in my arguments, which I think I am concerning their price vs features position... Rick -Original Message- From: David Low [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 5:24 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Railo 2 Released That's not true about the 6.1 compatibility

Re: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-26 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
As Mary Jo pointed out, I may not be their target customer, but they've tried to sell me on their product directly before and I just can't see paying more for less... paying less for less, we'll that's a different story and the way it should be to me. I'd have to modify the way I code somewhat

Re: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-26 Thread Raymond Camden
There are some interesting things there - and some odd things. For example, queryGetCell. Why would someone do this: queryGetCell(qry,'age',1) when you could just do qry['age'][1] On 8/26/07, David Low [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's not true about the 6.1 compatibility.

RE: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-26 Thread Rick Faircloth
To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Railo 2 Released As Mary Jo pointed out, I may not be their target customer, but they've tried to sell me on their product directly before and I just can't see paying more for less... paying less for less, we'll that's a different story and the way it should be to me. I'd

RE: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-26 Thread Dale Fraser
: Railo 2 Released Yes, I can definitely see some use for that, especially when I have a client that wants to run my CF apps on their own server. It's much easier to sell them on $300 than $1300... -Original Message- From: Mary Jo Sminkey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 26

Re: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-26 Thread AJ Mercer
-Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 27 August 2007 3:33 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Railo 2 Released Yes, I can definitely see some use for that, especially when I have a client that wants to run my CF apps on their own server. It's much easier

RE: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-26 Thread Dale Fraser
://dalefraser.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: AJ Mercer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 27 August 2007 8:27 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Railo 2 Released Railo Community is free http://railo.ch/en/index.cfm?treeID=149 On 8/27/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love

RE: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-26 Thread Andrew Scott
. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613  8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: Dale Fraser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, 27 August 2007 8:49 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Railo 2 Released Oh, I just read that, never bothered as I thought Community meant that it would have

Re: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-26 Thread Mary Jo Sminkey
I just read that, never bothered as I thought Community meant that it would have to be a community ie NON commercial website. But reading the page, this doesn't seem to be the case. Correct, it can be used for a small business site, as long as it only uses 1 database, no CFX tags, and no

Re: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-26 Thread Sean Corfield
On 8/26/07, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Overall I like the speed of the product, and the price:-) Yes, Railo has some nice features and is certainly very, very fast. It does a better job of supporting frameworks than BlueDragon from what I can tell although, like BlueDragon, it does

Re: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-26 Thread Andrew Grosset
The main thing that bugs me is CFX tags they have to be java based not C++. which rules out a lot of useful CFX tags out there. Andrew. ~| Download the latest ColdFusion 8 utilities including Report Builder, plug-ins for

Railo 2 Released

2007-08-25 Thread David Low
Railo released their 2.0 edition today. I've been testing stuff against the release candidates for a few months now and love it... http://www.railo.ch/en/index.cfm ~| Check out the new features and enhancements in the latest

RE: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-25 Thread Rick Faircloth
Message- From: David Low [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 5:51 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Railo 2 Released Railo released their 2.0 edition today. I've been testing stuff against the release candidates for a few months now and love it... http://www.railo.ch/en/index.cfm

Re: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-25 Thread AJ Mercer
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 5:51 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Railo 2 Released Railo released their 2.0 edition today. I've been testing stuff against the release candidates for a few months now and love it... http://www.railo.ch/en/index.cfm

RE: Railo 2 Released

2007-08-25 Thread Rick Faircloth
... the savings might be worth the sacrifice at that price point. Rick -Original Message- From: AJ Mercer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 11:13 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Railo 2 Released I though I recalled seeing (on the old site) something about a limit when having