Re: Which browsers do you support for -public- web sites?

2004-12-09 Thread dave
i cant see why u really wouldnt be using xhtml u can always throw in an old browser script that directs them to the firefox dl ;) most ppl still have it in their heads that updating their browser is still a 3 day download not a 4mb one -- Original Message -

Re: Which browsers do you support for -public- web sites?

2004-12-09 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Ben Rogers wrote: >> XHTML 1 Transitional and CSS 2.1, tested in Firefox, IE 6, Opera >> and Lynx. > > Out of curiosity, do you test on earlier versions of Internet Explorer or > anything that uses an earlier version of the Gecko engine? No. > What I'm really > curious about is how well the old

RE: Which browsers do you support for -public- web sites?

2004-12-09 Thread Ben Rogers
> XHTML 1 Transitional and CSS 2.1, tested in Firefox, IE 6, Opera > and Lynx. Jochem, Out of curiosity, do you test on earlier versions of Internet Explorer or anything that uses an earlier version of the Gecko engine? What I'm really curious about is how well the older engines handle XHTML. If

Re: Which browsers do you support for -public- web sites?

2004-12-09 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Jim McAtee wrote: > > So, what browsers, versions, (and to a degree, platforms) are you testing > and supporting for general access public web sites? XHTML 1 Transitional and CSS 2.1, tested in Firefox, IE 6, Opera and Lynx. Jochem ~

RE: Which browsers do you support for -public- web sites?

2004-12-09 Thread Ben Rogers
and Internet Explorer. We don't check functionality, just general layout. Ben Rogers http://www.c4.net v.508.240.0051 f.508.240.0057 > -Original Message- > From: Jim McAtee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 9:59 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: W

Re: Which browsers do you support for -public- web sites?

2004-12-09 Thread Tony Weeg
we have the luxury of only IE 6+ accessibility, as its a requirement we make VERY clear in our pre-sales efforts. -- tony Tony Weeg macromedia certified coldfusion mx developer email: tonyweeg [at] gmail [dot] com blog: http://www.revolutionwebdesign.com/blog/ cool tool: http://www.antiwrap.com

RE: Which browsers do you support for -public- web sites?

2004-12-09 Thread Damien McKenna
> So, what browsers, versions, (and to a degree, platforms) are > you testing and supporting for general access public web sites? #1 Firefox. #2 IE 5.5+. Beyond that, I'm not that fussed. I have a Mac and I occasionally check my work but I've not seen enough difference between its rendering and

Re: Which browsers do you support for -public- web sites?

2004-12-09 Thread Irvin Gomez
We only support version 5+ browsers. BTW, a properly structured site will require minimal tweaking to make it work consistently across browsers and platforms. Solid knowledge of CSS is required, though. >I'm guessing that some good comments on my question are buried somewhere >in that 500 po

Re: Which browsers do you support for -public- web sites?

2004-12-09 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Thursday 09 Dec 2004 02:59 am, Jim McAtee wrote: > So, what browsers, versions, (and to a degree, platforms) are you testing > and supporting I don't support a browser, I support and write to (a set of) open standards. Day to day testing is performed with a recent Firefox, and double checked i

Re: Which browsers do you support for -public- web sites?

2004-12-09 Thread Barney Boisvert
I said that about 8 months ago. Then I got reamed for it by visitors. People using NS 4 are still around, though they seem to be generally good natured about having ugly sites, as long as they work. We'd switched to a JS/CSS menuing system that works like a champ, but not in NS4. We changed to

RE: Which browsers do you support for -public- web sites?

2004-12-08 Thread dave
u should just load up this http://www.chrispederick.com/work/firefox/webdeveloper/ great extension!! -- Original Message -- From: "Paul Vernon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 07:45:42 - >We pretty much do w

RE: Which browsers do you support for -public- web sites?

2004-12-08 Thread James Holmes
I apply a policy that anyone using Netscape 4 gets what they deserve and the site should work in just about anything else, much as has already been said. ~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net htt

RE: Which browsers do you support for -public- web sites?

2004-12-08 Thread Paul Vernon
We pretty much do what Barney has already said... Develop using Firefox. Turn off the stylesheets persistantly and re-test in Firefox. Before we test in any other browser, we validate the site using the CSE HTML Validator Pro We develop our sites in XHTML 1.0 Transitional usually. Test and

Re: Which browsers do you support for -public- web sites?

2004-12-08 Thread dave
i do write for firefox which general works great on most all non ms browsers, i use firefox, mozilla, netscape, opera, konqueor then lastly go back and fix the ie bugs then slap a browsehappy.com logo on bottom! :) oh and also put that the website was optimized for firefox 1.0 -- Origin

Re: Which browsers do you support for -public- web sites?

2004-12-08 Thread Barney Boisvert
Best bet, as far as I'm concerned, is to develop using FireFox (or any Mozilla), then tweak for IE6 (because of it's hosed box model, among other things), and then ensure that the site is still "functional enough" if you turn off CSS and JavaScript. You're not going to get quite the same consisten

Re: Which browsers do you support for -public- web sites?

2004-12-08 Thread dave
oh and also i write in in xhtml not html. makes a big diff if trying to view on periferals and no reason to use html anymore. -- Original Message -- From: "Jim McAtee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 19:59:08 -0700 >I

Re: Which browsers do you support for -public- web sites?

2004-12-08 Thread Rob
On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 19:59:08 -0700, Jim McAtee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My feeling is that you can't test _everything_ so you gauge the use of the > more popular browsers and then you draw a line somewhere. I also realize > that like most things, it's a matter of how much time and money you (or

Re: Which browsers do you support for -public- web sites?

2004-12-08 Thread Mike Kear
-0500, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > -Original Message- > > > > From: Jim McAtee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 9:59 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Which browsers do you support for -public- web sites? >

RE: Which browsers do you support for -public- web sites?

2004-12-08 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message- > From: Jim McAtee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 9:59 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Which browsers do you support for -public- web sites? > > I'm guessing that some good comments on my question are buried so

Which browsers do you support for -public- web sites?

2004-12-08 Thread Jim McAtee
I'm guessing that some good comments on my question are buried somewhere in that 500 post thread on Browser Stats, but I really don't have the energy to sort through all the OT and all the bickering. My feeling is that you can't test _everything_ so you gauge the use of the more popular browser