Re: Why .Net is on its last legs

2010-01-25 Thread John Pullam
Great thread. I've been programming since the 60's (really!) and I am totally appalled by how difficult it is to program in .Net I decided to learn it a few years ago because it seemed all I heard was .Net is the future. I found it the most time-consuming, difficult to debug, language/environ

RE: Why .Net is on its last legs

2010-01-23 Thread Duane Boudreau
iginal Message- From: Bryn Parrott [mailto:bryn_parr...@internode.on.net] Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 10:58 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Why .Net is on its last legs > There is plenty of "sloppy code" in the .Net-i-verse...like you said, > it's ultimately about the develo

Re: Why .Net is on its last legs

2010-01-22 Thread Bryn Parrott
> There is plenty of "sloppy code" in the .Net-i-verse...like you said, > it's ultimately about the developer, not the platform. I'm not so sure about that. I've dabbled with .Net on and off over the last couple of years (every time I get depressed about job prospects in .CF ...) and each tim

RE: Why .Net is on its last legs

2010-01-22 Thread Jon Sala
> Developpers "re-use" code so much nowadays that it takes 4 gig RAM to > do about the same thing we did before in Clipper with 256k ;-)) ROTFL! Made the whole thread worthwhile. This message and any attached documents are only for the use of the intended recipient(s), are confidential and m

Re: Why .Net is on its last legs

2010-01-22 Thread John M Bliss
> I wish I knew how to strike the perfect balance... Learn YAGNI: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_ain%27t_gonna_need_it :-) On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 7:45 AM, Qing Xia wrote: > > > > > > > I can admit, I have some really sloppy code from my first years as a > coder. > > > > So did I--like you

Re: Why .Net is on its last legs

2010-01-22 Thread Qing Xia
> > > I can admit, I have some really sloppy code from my first years as a coder. > > So did I--like you said, I imagine most did with their first applications. And those were the ones that mattered most. They don't care about > frameworks, OO, languages, wire frames, documentation or prefere

Re: Why .Net is on its last legs

2010-01-21 Thread Kevin Pepperman
I can admit, I have some really sloppy code from my first years as a coder. Everyone does, or they are just waisting too much time refactoring or needless optimization. I really had no clue whatsoever what the heck I was doing. In fact I still have no clue 9 years later though I am managing it b

RE: Why .Net is on its last legs

2010-01-21 Thread Eric Roberts
...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 5:09 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Re: Why .Net is on its last legs Definitely nothing quite like some good ol' Chicago pizza! Thanks a lot, now you've got me craving some Gino's East, and I'm in Texas! :-( Chicago (...can't get good p

Re: Why .Net is on its last legs

2010-01-21 Thread Matt Quackenbush
Definitely nothing quite like some good ol' Chicago pizza! Thanks a lot, now you've got me craving some Gino's East, and I'm in Texas! :-( Chicago (...can't get good pizza anywhere else hehehe) > ~| Want to reach the ColdFusi

Re: Why .Net is on its last legs

2010-01-21 Thread Joel Watson
There is plenty of "sloppy code" in the .Net-i-verse...like you said, it's ultimately about the developer, not the platform. ~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fus

RE: Why .Net is on its last legs

2010-01-21 Thread Eric Roberts
could get. Eric -Original Message- From: Jason Durham [mailto:jdur...@cti-stl.com] Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 4:26 PM To: cf-talk Subject: RE: Why .Net is on its last legs Personally, I think it's related to the instable economy. Pack your bags and move your family to No

Re: Why .Net is on its last legs

2010-01-21 Thread Qing Xia
I second that. I took a 5-month certificate program for ASP.NET with C# last Spring at a prestigious university in the DC metropolitan area. (Not naming names here) The teacher is an extremely well qualified individual with over half a dozen MS certificates, including one in ASP.NET web deve

Re: Why .Net is on its last legs

2010-01-21 Thread Claude Schnéegans
>>Well, its nice to program these elegant elaborate fully object oriented systems in C# and be able to whip out a console application once in a while, as needed. Sure, it makes one feel smart to throw all these fancy acronyms and names and have a full knowledge that the stuff you work on is s

RE: Why .Net is on its last legs

2010-01-21 Thread Jason Durham
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 4:11 PM To: cf-talk Subject: Why .Net is on its last legs So I moved to a .Net shop a while back and I can say that .Net is on its last legs. Well, its nice to program these elegant elaborate fully object oriented systems in C# and be able to whip out a console applic

Why .Net is on its last legs

2010-01-21 Thread Tom Kitta
So I moved to a .Net shop a while back and I can say that .Net is on its last legs. Well, its nice to program these elegant elaborate fully object oriented systems in C# and be able to whip out a console application once in a while, as needed. Sure, it makes one feel smart to throw all these fa