RE: why do e mails go into the Undelivr folder? is there any impr ovement in MX 7?

2005-02-17 Thread James Smith
> In Tom's defense, I read his statement as meaning that, > rather than CF itself providing a half-assed implementation > of SMTP, it simply acts as an SMTP client. Not that Tom needs > me to defend him, of course. In all honesty though can you name any other SMTP client that won't retry the se

RE: why do e mails go into the Undelivr folder? is there any impr ovement in MX 7?

2005-02-16 Thread Tom Jordahl
Sure CF does: mail.log always contains the reason for the mail getting put in undelivr. Tom Jordahl Macromedia Server Development -Original Message- From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 12:11 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: why do e mails go into

RE: why do e mails go into the Undelivr folder? is there any impr ovement in MX 7?

2005-02-16 Thread Tom Jordahl
9:23 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: why do e mails go into the Undelivr folder? is there any impr ovement in MX 7? Tom Jordahl wrote: > We explicitly do not have ColdFusion move undelivered mail in to the spool > folder because we assume this should be a user initiated procedure. > > We do n

RE: why do e mails go into the Undelivr folder? is there any impr ovement in MX 7?

2005-02-16 Thread Tom Jordahl
: Thursday, February 17, 2005 12:57 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: why do e mails go into the Undelivr folder? is there any impr ovement in MX 7? > for future reference please don't not refer to _any_ cf developer > methods as half-assed. It's not the type of community involvement we >

Re: why do e mails go into the Undelivr folder? is there any impr ovement in MX 7?

2005-02-16 Thread Matt Robertson
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 03:50:47 -0500, Tom Jordahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hope that helps clarify things. In my admittedly imperfect opinion it looks like you guys just glossed over this and didn't think it though very well. Understandable since cfmail got a lot of attention in 6.1 and you

RE: why do e mails go into the Undelivr folder? is there any impr ovement in MX 7?

2005-02-16 Thread Dave Watts
> for future reference please don't not refer to _any_ cf developer > methods as half-assed. It's not the type of community involvement we > expect from MM. In Tom's defense, I read his statement as meaning that, rather than CF itself providing a half-assed implementation of SMTP, it simply acts a

Re: why do e mails go into the Undelivr folder? is there any impr ovement in MX 7?

2005-02-16 Thread Adrocknaphobia
Tom, I can agree with not moving the mail automatically, but your second statement seems more like an excuse for a lack of oversight. A million things can get in between CF and the SMTP server even if they are on the same box. CF should have a setting to determine how many times to attempt deliver

Re: why do e mails go into the Undelivr folder? is there any impr ovement in MX 7?

2005-02-16 Thread jonese
you can get the immediate notification error if your tell CF not to spool the email. Not sure if you can do this outside of the admin tools though. jonese On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:53:27 -0500, Rick Root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tom Jordahl wrote: > > We explicitly do not have ColdFusion move u

Re: why do e mails go into the Undelivr folder? is there any impr ovement in MX 7?

2005-02-16 Thread Rick Root
Tom Jordahl wrote: > We explicitly do not have ColdFusion move undelivered mail in to the spool > folder because we assume this should be a user initiated procedure. > > We do not retry as a "proper" SMTP server does because CF *isn't* an SMTP > server. It expects that you will have a reliable SM

RE: why do e mails go into the Undelivr folder? is there any impr ovement in MX 7?

2005-02-16 Thread Tom Jordahl
We explicitly do not have ColdFusion move undelivered mail in to the spool folder because we assume this should be a user initiated procedure. We do not retry as a "proper" SMTP server does because CF *isn't* an SMTP server. It expects that you will have a reliable SMTP server that you can at lea